Retired - Victoria Swinger

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Whichpornstar was sometimes hijacked, it seemed. Which dead pornstars actually won it, though ?

Misguided - that's it, but she never misguided herself ?

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Hmm, which scene of VS would you like? I am thinking. I know you like anal, so I can easily remove 50% of her stuff.

Hint: It´s a 1on1 only, and I dont usually like bg only even if it´s anal. It´s also way too mainstream romantic for my taste. But still, VS acts really fine in that. And: It´s neither The Cult nor HOH.



PS:

The bit on the new Handsonhardcore re-edited scene made me chuckle. Nick lang is doing her anal reverse cowgirl and he pops it out and gapes her. James Brosnan is standing nearby trying unsuccessfully to get a blowjob. She suddenly looks down at her gaped pussy and ass and looks at Brosnan and says "Do you like it?".

[Steve]

Eager Beaver was the scene I think she did the best performance in (also known as City of Sluts 2, Sex Party One, Sex Party Two and Tini Tonik 2) and its not anal but a scene with Clark.

The Mikes Apartment scene was a good one and my only criticism about that scene is that Mikes Apartment have no idea of video quality. For a scene to be good to me, I want to see it high resolution with perfect audio, so I found this one annoyingly low res.

Stammi Dietro isn't at all bad too. She really gets into that one and does a pretty damn fine job. She does a position in that scene which I had never seen before and it was interesting.

and finally

Voyeur 30 is a top scene with her. Shame they had the sun glaring through a window at the back of the room which totally dulled most of the lighting. Apart from the problem with the lighting, I have always thought that was good. DP scene too with Lauro Giotto and Mick Blue.

Runners up for me is Tic Tac Toe. Apart from the fact she is wearing the weirdest white clothing, its a nice scene where she gets hammered quite good.

And final runner up is Point of View but I do not overly rate this one because its a bb/gg and there was too much of the other girl for my liking and unfortunately, Mya does out perform VS in every way. Ending was interesting with the fingering... Took VS by surprise for sure.

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If it is banal porn speak, to match "Do you like it ?" he must say, "I like it very much."

Not witty, but what a foreign porn actor with little command of English might say. (Even is VS could say a lot more, she kept to banal simple phrases because this was the norm, and did not want to exceed Brosnan's capability in that department, or maybe his English is good as well ?)

Then he might follow up with, "I want to fuck you in each hole."

Then he fucks her and she says, "Oh fuck me, fuck me, fuck me."

This is like a parody of porn, but is it like that with really banal dialogue, deliberately banal ?

Another crap bit of dialogue, but this actually comes from an ancient US porno: "I wanna taste your cum. Shoot it down my throat."

Can you imagine if someone learnt English with their only source US or Euro porn films ? Not, "Can I have a cup of coffee, please ?" but, "Please would you fuck me in the ass ?"

There was this ancient English series about foreign students learning English called, "Mind Your Language".

How about a porn film about a group of porn starlets learning English so they can speak it in porn films with all the stock phrases they will use, then practical examples, ie. adding the fucking to the phrases ?

But the joke is, I bet a lot of foreign actors can actually speak reasonable English or even good English like VS, but we don't let on about that. Live up to the stereotype.

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Maybe Brosnan says, like the Terminator, "I'll be back", then goes out. But does he come back or even cum back ?

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Or the shocking reply, "No."

Because the expectation is that he will say something positive: a "yes", or something based on that or deriving from that.

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If he wants a blowjob, he must say, "Suck it and see."

Ie, not a direct reply to her, "Do you like it ?"

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It's odd that Simony isn't big in Hungary, because she is big everywhere else. She is one of the most popular if not the most popular babe on EBI.

Also in the scene Simony and VS did together in Beautiful Girls, Simony dwarfs VS, I'm afraid to say, standing a good 6 inches taller.

But Simony is not a blonde, which makes her popularity all the more remarkable. (She is mega hot and beautiful in spite of not being a blonde.)

VS was okay, good maybe, but not good enough to get to the top, and could not put in the work.

it's no good for second league players to play in the top league. They always get found out.

[Steve]

Sometimes the language does become a barrier. After seeing the scene she did with Clark in Eager Beaver, I immediately wanted to get them together again to see if we could recapture that kind of enthusiasm.

I wrote a script with a storyline (as I did in most cases to avoid repetative gonzo) and was quite looking forward to seeing how it would go.

I learnt from her agent that VS has a trick to help her relax when she performs shows which is downing a few tequila prior to the dance routine. She did that to relax herself and also to make it easier to work with sex toys in an environment where she was nervous (another tip to budding pornstars who get invited to do dance routines).

So, before the shoot with Clark we also asked her to down a few tequila so she would be able to really nail it. She happily agreed to that I also asked her to dominate as I had never seen that in her scenes. I said I want you to do the running and a lot of talking. I even wrote down some phrases she might want to use.

Then the problem occurred which I had not foreseen. Clark did not speak a word of English. So, when it came to him doing his dialogue the problems really started. I was the only one fluent in English and trying to control the scene was so damn tough. The cameraman did not know English and neither did the male actor, so they did not know when to stop if the dialogue was bad. Clark was given the script phonetically adjusted so that it would sound English but it was written using Hungarian vowels and letters. It kinda worked but it a tad hard to understand and did sound a bit like the computerised speech things you find in Windows Help.

No complaints with Clark though. Fantastic performer who still dominated the scene (lol) and I am sure his Hungarian is top notch .

You will see when I get around to editing that up.

I am thinking of knocking up some forums to post about VS where I can also upload these clips. Does that sound sensible. I don't really have time to create a fully fledged "fan" site, but I think a forum might do okay.

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Oh yes, a bit of a forum will do nicely.

I remember a few more lines from that US movie. It was so bad and so banal it stuck in my memory, and the mechanical way the lines were delivered was just heaven.

"Gimme some of that large cock."

"Such a large cock."

"Fuck it deep."

I think it would be hilarious to do a porn film which is a parody of a bad porn film with dreadful banal dialogue spoken in a totally wooden mechanical manner, or are there some porn films already that are like that ? Which is the worst, the most like a parody of bad porn ?

A script where all the dialogue is reduced to complete banality, with lots of repetition, and bit like Pinter with fucking.

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Not witty, but what a foreign porn actor with little command of English might say. (Even is VS could say a lot more, she kept to banal simple phrases because this was the norm, and did not want to exceed Brosnan's capability in that department, or maybe his English is good as well ?)

I dont know about Bronan´s english, but I think the problem again doesnt lie in either porn stereotype simple phrases expected nor politeness towards fellow non-english mother tongue speakers. It´s just a question of how much VS wants to put yourself into a scene on set, how much she wants to get involved.
I just watched Vivienne La Roche with Clark in Euro Hardball 20 and Vivienne just talks fluently english during all that anal dildoing part (with Clark staying off screen, just talking very little). Vivienne La Roche, however, did want to give it all - not only with her ass. That´s the difference!

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Can you imagine if someone learnt English with their only source US or Euro porn films ? Not, "Can I have a cup of coffee, please ?" but, "Please would you fuck me in the ass ?"

This also reminds me of Monty Python's Dirty Hungarian Phrasebook sketch.
"Do you want to come back to my place, bouncy-bouncy?"
"Drop your panties Sir William! I cannot wait 'til lunchtime!"

Or the shocking reply, "No."

Because the expectation is that he will say something positive: a "yes", or something based on that or deriving from that.

LOL. I think that would be hilarious, especially if he just said it matter-of-factly. "No, not really." Or, "Eh, I've seen better." Or, "Hold that thought--I'll be right back. I'm going to check the forum on www.eurobabeindex.com to compare your gape to pictures of other women posted in the numerous threads dedicated to gaping there." Or maybe, "OH! I just remembered I left my garage door open! Thanks for the reminder!"

I remember a few more lines from that US movie. It was so bad and so banal it stuck in my memory, and the mechanical way the lines were delivered was just heaven.

"Gimme some of that large cock."

"Such a large cock."

"Fuck it deep."

I can't remember the title of the movie, and I also can't remember which actress it was in the scene I'm thinking about, but I remember it was some US porno, where the girl (either Bree Olsen or Leah Luv, I can't remember) is getting POV anal fucked in a bathroom, I think over the tub, and she says "Fuck me mister, fuck me really hard." The "fuck me really hard part" sounded like a really terrible bit of dialogue, but she (Bree or Leah) did make it sound very very cute .

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"OH! I just remembered I left my garage door open! Thanks for the reminder!"

Very good answer, especially as VS was actually supposed to blow him and not to show him her gaped pussy and ass.

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Brosnan says, "I must confer before I can answer that question", and speaks to Nick Lang.

He says to Lang, "What do I tell her ?"

Lang: "Does it matter ? Make something up."

VS is waiting all this time.

VS: "It was an innocent question. You don't have to think too hard about it."

But Brosnan is deep in thought, as if this was an existential question.

Brosnan: "I think, therefore I am. I fuck, therefore I am."

VS is getting impatient.

VS: "Oh fuck it. If it's so difficult for you." She gets up and takes a timeout. Either she drinks something or takes a drag on a fag (if she is a smoker.)

Brosnan muses: "What am I supposed to say ?"

Lang: " I'm losing it here. Do you always say what you're supposed to say ?"

This would turn into a Bergman porno, when everyone, after fucking, has to address the deep and serious issues behind each bit of banal dialogue they come out with.

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Hmm, which scene of VS would you like? I am thinking. I know you like anal, so I can easily remove 50% of her stuff. You liked the lusty legs scene which is probably one of her hardest ever.

I dont really liked her Lusty Legs performance, I only liked her stockings.
Anyway here is a cap from the quite good scene I am thinking about: