Retired - Victoria Swinger

[Steve]

Oh, I think VS is from Budapest. I know she went to school there and that her family all live in the center. Some sites claim she is from a small town near Budapest, but that is just where she was living at the time. I think thats actually where Swingerpapa is from as his family live in that area.

I also thought that Swingerpapa had left his wife prior to meeting VS. This is news that he left her for VS. I never knew that although its hard to know what to believe with Swingerpapa, hehe. I know that he used to be a jeweller and owned a shop in Budapest (i.e. he was not a pornstar).

He has a son and he is almost as old as VS. He is actually a really really cool guy who used to visit me often when I lived in Budapest (the only one who did bother). Although from around 20th February 2006 until around 11th April 2006 no one did visit me. I seem to remember spending I believe 42 days on my own in a flat in the middle of a city where I could not speak a sentence of Hungarian. You have no idea how many conversations I had with the wall!!!

I had no TV set and could only phone home once a week and that was for 10 mins to just find out if everyone was okay because I had hardly any money left as the site was not launched.

I was finally rescued (lol) on the 5th May 2006 by my family who drove 1,200 miles to get me. I swore never to return

[dap-addict]

No worries dap.
(...)
I would give anything to restore the friendship, but I doubt it will ever happen. I have a new business venture about to launch now that I am finally back on my feet again and if its successful, then I will without hesitation ensure that she is financially comfortable for the rest of her life.

That´s quite a story, Steve. And that´s a lot you have been through.
And a lot of insight you share with us. Thank you for that!
I really do wonder why you got into this even twice, but so do probabely you.


On another note, I still do not like that generalized notion that building up a porn career slowly would work in Hungary these times, after 2003 that is. I think you derive a bit too much from VS and your VS experience. The same goes for that "Do they enjoy it?"-tread. The fact that VS didnt enjoy sex doesnt meant that no Magyar girl enjoys her work. Just compare Michelle Wild to VS and you know what I mean.

[superduper]

Wow, that's quite a story there.

Swingerpapa and Victoria. Swingerpapa having a nice line in certificates.

But you said something about a new project that would make her (Victoria)
financially secure, and she is a much nicer person away from the presssures of porn.

Like two Victorias. The porn disaster femme fatale Victoria who is like a tornado; and the away-from-porn nice Victoria.

Maybe you should have taken the offer from Maya Gold, though, but you were too shook up at the time.

She needs a better site and she is really good.

[superduper]

So, how much was the way Victoria turned out due to Swingerpapa ? That is, would she have been a better person if she had never got into porn, or was the way he did things for her what caused her to go to the bad ?

[superduper]

So, Victoria is not really "sweet'ums" after all.

[superduper]

Anyway, in each scene she did, at the end (or during it) VS did seem to wear the same unvaried slightly condescending smile and she also seemed a bit passive, together with a bit of a tub, but I've seen worse.

She seemed mechanical rather than intuitive, and did appear a bit detached.

[Steve]

But you said something about a new project that would make her (Victoria)
financially secure, and she is a much nicer person away from the presssures of porn.

The new project is not for Victoria in anyway. Its not adult related and infact adult material is strictly prohibited on the site.

I am developing a mega site because they seem to be the in thing at the moment with sites like facebook, youtube, etc selling for multimillions.

Once its launched, its going on my mega server which is possibly one of the nicest servers around. Its a twin Quad Core server with 12x 300mb 10kprm drives (RAID) and 24gb of memory. Hosted on 4x100mb lines on the fastest network in the world, by the biggest server providers.

A similar site recently sold for $620 million, so I am waiting to see what offers I get for this once I have made it popular. I have spent the last year investigating the complexities of search engine algorithms and can safely say that I can get any site onto the first page of google for any search you specify in under 2 weeks (if the site is already on google). I recently launched a site and got it to number 3 on google.com out of 54 million results in under 10 days. My methods are also not cheating and break no rules laid down by google.

So, thats where I have been. Developing, refining and testing all the facilities of this new site. Preparing for launch in around 2 weeks once I have finished writing the billing system and have finished optimising the internal search systems.

Amazing really that whilst I was a website designer in this industry I was limited really to a bit of php, understanding css and knowing html. I used other peoples code bases to host my site. In the past year I also decided to learn fully php and other client and server side progamming. I can now write about 1,000 lines of php per hour. I suppose that is the positive side to being a high functioning autistic person. The negatives you don't even want to know

[superduper]

How do you get a site to the top without paying any extra ?

What is the new site to be called ?

Sounds like good stuff.

There's a limit to the amount of money that can be made from porn because only adults can access it.

You ever been interested in algorithms that predict future stock market trends ? Could you do something like that ? The Dow more or less dictates what other markets do, so if you can crack the Dow, that's all you need.

[gepont]

You ever been interested in algorithms that predict future stock market trends ? Could you do something like that ? The Dow more or less dictates what other markets do, so if you can crack the Dow, that's all you need.

Read this book You won't crack the Dow but at least you'll know why
http://www.amazon.com/Undercover-Economist-Exposing-Poor-Decent/dp/0345494016/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/105-6027876-1727607?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1187825852&sr=8-1

[Steve]

Quick tip regarding google (some know this one, some don't).

Whatever is in the top header bar is actually more powerful than the meta keywords. So on this page atm its saying "eurobabeindex.com :: Post a reply". That in search engine terms is pointless Firstly, no need to put the site address because anyone typing that into a search engine already knows it and secondly it wont score you any brownie points.

Now, if that was for example "Eurobabe Forums, full of naked babes, pornstars, porn gossip, etc etc", then it would have a drastic effect on those search terms (i.e. eurobabe pornstar, naked pornstars, eurobabe porn, etc).

EBI does well because it has a high PR, which means Page Rank with google. All links from Eurobabe are regarded more important than other sites as the PR denotes its popular. PR is gained by getting people to link to you and Eurobabe gets this in abundance from its model pages.

Models might not always get benefit from being listed on Eurobabeindex, especially if they are running their own site. With the PR that EBI has, the second the model is added to the cards, their site will be bumped downwards as they cannot compete with the popularity of this site.

There are a few examples

[Steve]

Stockmarkets are not really something that can be calculated with 100% accuracy. They are like rolling a dice and its a game of chance. Some are a safe bet, but return lower dividends while others are high risk, return higher dividends but more likely to fail. Thats why its called "playing the stockmarket" and not "calculating the stockmarket".

I did keynsian theories and economics at University during my Business Degree. I learnt about bulls and stags, etc with the stockmarket but investment is not something I have really wanted to do. If someone can make money from my money, then hell... so can I, so I prefer to make it.

With the current housing crisis in the US effecting global stocks, its definitely not something I want to play with atm anyway. US needs to get its house in order and stop effecting other countries economic positions when it encounters problems.

[Steve]

There is no real limit to what you can make on the internet. Be it adult sites or commercial. I don't think the adult issue really has an effect because most people with credit cards are adult.

The money is no longer in porn though when it comes to the internet. It might one day be porn again, but its currently mega sites that can be used for massive advertising. Sites like facebook, youtube, ebay, etc are not bought out because they are cool sites, they are bought out so someone can blam hundreds of adverts all over them.

Interesting statistic. The average marketing budget of a typical firm that is going to do well should now be close to 50% of its profits. I see adverts on the TV all the time from places like Tesco, Ebay, etc. Now, the interesting bit is, do these firms really need to advertise as they are already household names? Ever seen a TV ad for example for google?

[gepont]

I see adverts on the TV all the time from places like Tesco, Ebay, etc. Now, the interesting bit is, do these firms really need to advertise as they are already household names? Ever seen a TV ad for example for google?

I think Tesco do need advertising, not as the brand but all those price cuts that can affect hordes of customers where to go that weekend, to Tesco, Sainsbury's or ASDA, because that is a very stiff competition. Also I'm OK with Ebay to advertise, their target is to lure more and more people to ebaying, as millions of active internet users have no idea how Ebay works. My college classmates were completely surprised when I said I used to sell my photography prints on Ebay. They are potential clients for Ebay and they need to be informed in simple layman's language about these things.

What I don't understand is for example why Coca Cola (and Pepsi) spends all those Billions on adverts. Everyone knows what's in the can, it's the same since 1885. You won't drink Pepsi if you don't like it just because Britney or whoever is in their ad, will you. Or maybe there are a few million idiots out there and they change from CC to Pepsi because of their favorite footballer or singer? Maybe...

Google doesn't need advertising, I agree. The clever thing was Ask.com in the recent months as they deliberately targeted themselves to the second place which is normally a marketing faux-pas. But they figured out quite rightly that it's pointless to compete with Google for the first place (Ask.com couldn't say we're the best, the biggest, anything, that would be ridiculous). Why was it clever? Because they are not the 2nd search engine but only the 4th or 5th maybe 6th, I don't know. Yahoo and MSN-Live definitely ahead of them. So their slogan "The other search engine" was brilliant I think.

Sorry for the Offtopic to all those who looking for Victoria's pussy or asshole in this topic

[dap-addict]

Sorry for the Offtopic to all those who looking for Victoria's pussy or asshole in this topic

Just in case somebody forgot who we are talking about.

[Steve]

I did not like that scene either. She seemed to be looking around most of the time for some kind of insperation and not finding it. Liz Honey way way outshone her in that scene.

I have more of Victoria Swinger's material than anyone on the planet (including Victoria). I even have some of the Japanese scenes which were the first she ever did (the one with the Japanese woman hammering her with a strapon is quite funny... the look on Victoria's face is priceless).

I think the only scenes that she ever did that she put in a performance that even looked like she was enjoying it is "Eager Beaver (aka Sex Party Two, City of Sluts 2 or Tini Tonik 7)", "Stammi Dietro", or one of the hard scenes I got her to do when directing her and I think she enjoyed that purely to piss someone off in the room. I call that scene "Sex Sells and it is Gonzo but has a storyline about selling used panties on eBay".

I also think he most endearing performance was in Die Witwe in the kitchen scene. She was new to the scene and could not fake it. Although the guy was not exactly endowed like a typical pornstar he did a good enough job to get some none faked sounds from her.

I have some funny BTS stuff too like her laughing so much she could not act and another where she is lying down with a dildo up her pussy waggling her ass around so the dildo was swinging around... that is kinda unique.

I can show you a clip that that summarises her career in the business. A guy was struggling to perform with her and just could not get the pop shot. So, he was in a doggy position with her for almost 4 minutes trying to get to the pop shot and during that whole time she was looking out of the window and made not a single sound!!!

She got way pissed off in that scene too. The guy was just going floppy every few seconds and nothing she did could stop that happening. Suddenly in walked Nikki Rider (who was just visiting, not performing) and she sucked the guy off and in second he was like the statue of liberty... lol... Nikki left, and 10 seconds later he was back to being Mr softy. I have to be honest though, after Nikki had finished with him I am surprised he had anything left to perform with, god she is an animal (meant in the nicest way possible).