PremiumBukkake.com Discussion Thread

[xtripsnova]

I am so depressed by the quality and the vibe of these French scenes being posted in a relentless doomed rhythm that I will avoid addressing the subject if you don't mind.
I would like to raise an idea that have not been tackled at any time on this discussion i think.
Just imagine that Torbe/PB/PL have the masters of all the scenes that they have shot stored somewhere, like any respectable professional would.
Wouldn't be a great thing to remaster those original scenes with better equipment? To extract the best definition, bitrate, color grading, lighting etc......?
I mean just imagine Elya or Angela in a pristine remastered 4k version?
That of course would be possible only if the shitty job we know was done after editing and not at the time of shooting.

[xtripsnova]

xtripsnova - i would SO MUCH rather have that - along with Sara and anything else not released - than what they keep pushing out.

Trust me, Kimmy isn't half as bad as I expected it to be after the Sonia fiasco, but its still par for the course for the Paris gang, which means its mediocre crap. PB is ruining its brand, watering down the quality of its content, by continuing to push out this substandard garbage. At times, I am seriously wondering, am I watching an old COHF scene from the 90's?

Its poorly lit (lots of shadow) - a cramped, tight space with people, camera guys, models and scooper always having trouble moving around and working in - and poorly shot; a jerky constantly moving camera with at times, bizarre and horrible camera angles.

But the biggest thing the Paris gang just can't seem to figure out, is that for a bukkake/gokkun cum fetish sight purportedly providing "premium" content, we might just want to SEE the product - shots of the mouthfuls and closeups of the model taking sperm to her face and mouth. But don't take my word for it. Here is the highest rated video on Premium Bukkake, Angela #2. This is the gold standard. This is what we want.

this is what we want.jpg

With the Paris crew, this is what we get.

this is what we get.jpg

WTF is this?!? Hello! I can't see shit. Why is the camera always so far away? Why is the model's head always turned to one side or the other? What is the point of the model holding loads in her mouth? You can't see anything. Why is the camera always straight on, instead of ABOVE the model looking down, with her head tilted back (and here's a novel concept), with her head FACING the camera!

Of course there are moments, but by and large they just don't get it. What is staggering is there is SO MUCH CONTENT, shot the correct way by Madrid team, that PB customers ecstatically approve - showing them, this is how you do it.

I am way beyond you on that judgement. You are too kind with them.
I never liked any of their girls, all in a row, Henna, Kitana, Daniela, Sonia, Kimmy.... etc.....
They are all sub par for me. But also the ambiance is killing me. It's the anti climax of the Madrid atmosphere.
I never got to the point of even paying attention to camera angles or such....

[robuk]

Hey, I get it. The vibe of the French scenes (maybe because they are filming in what feels like a dungeon?) is dank, oppressive, and seedy. The beauty of the models is subpar (eg. Kitana - or Kate Rich; Monica Wild or Vicky Love... Kimmy's wig doesn't fit, Henna's lipstick is smeared on her face, Daniela's pink hair dye is bleeding everywhere). Everything about the Paris scenes SCREAMS cut-rate production and mediocrity...

Mary and Angela are $100 a month content. Sonia and Kitana...$20?

Agree with a lot of whats been said here...personally I don't think much of PB's content has been a 100 bucks a month for a long time.

[chris]

Enough ... bring back the amateur slavs who can swallow tons of sperm

[WAO137]

Kate looking for a new girls for bukkake.. but shhhh....don't tell anybody...

[Gregorious]

Kate looking for a new girls for bukkake.. but shhhh....don't tell anybody...

Ok, promise! But do you mean Kate is scouting new girls for PB? That would be great...

[robuk]

Enough ... bring back the amateur slavs who can swallow tons of sperm

We can dream Chris..we can dream.

[Quimico300]

xtripsnova - i would SO MUCH rather have that - along with Sara and anything else not released - than what they keep pushing out.

Trust me, Kimmy isn't half as bad as I expected it to be after the Sonia fiasco, but its still par for the course for the Paris gang, which means its mediocre crap. PB is ruining its brand, watering down the quality of its content, by continuing to push out this substandard garbage. At times, I am seriously wondering, am I watching an old COHF scene from the 90's?

Its poorly lit (lots of shadow) - a cramped, tight space with people, camera guys, models and scooper always having trouble moving around and working in - and poorly shot; a jerky constantly moving camera with at times, bizarre and horrible camera angles.

But the biggest thing the Paris gang just can't seem to figure out, is that for a bukkake/gokkun cum fetish sight purportedly providing "premium" content, we might just want to SEE the product - shots of the mouthfuls and closeups of the model taking sperm to her face and mouth. But don't take my word for it. Here is the highest rated video on Premium Bukkake, Angela #2. This is the gold standard. This is what we want.

this is what we want.jpg

With the Paris crew, this is what we get.

this is what we get.jpg

WTF is this?!? Hello! I can't see shit. Why is the camera always so far away? Why is the model's head always turned to one side or the other? What is the point of the model holding loads in her mouth? You can't see anything. Why is the camera always straight on, instead of ABOVE the model looking down, with her head tilted back (and here's a novel concept), with her head FACING the camera!

Of course there are moments, but by and large they just don't get it. What is staggering is there is SO MUCH CONTENT, shot the correct way by Madrid team, that PB customers ecstatically approve - showing them, this is how you do it.

Angela works independently or with an agency?
Angela is still valid today (Angel B -Lucretia K) would be the best gift that she would record again for PB in Spain.

[Hola__Hamijos]

I would like to welcome the first Arabian Star on PB!!

People from Morocco are "Arabian"?
Ok, yes they speak a dialect of Arabic but it's far from Arabia.
That's like saying someone born and and raised in Suriname is Dutch.

Angela works independently or with an agency?

Wait...what? I thought she was retired from the biz.

Kate looking for a new girls for bukkake.. but shhhh....don't tell anybody...

That's a way to start a rumour! Is Kate the new Tanya?

I am so depressed by the quality and the vibe of these French scenes being posted in a relentless doomed rhythm...

I'm starting to feel that way too.

remaster those original scenes...in a pristine remastered 4k version?
That of course would be possible only if the shitty job we know was done after editing and not at the time of shooting.

That would be cool. They could also:
1) Un-edit scenes that are needlessly edited.
Like "maskedVictoria-Cam1" (which is a mix of Cam 1 and Cam 2) & "maskedVictoria-Cam2" (which is a mix of Cam 2 and Cam 1 but the opposite camera from whatever you see in "Victoria-Cam1" ). WTF?!?
Why did they do this? Just given us a regular Cam 1 with no edits and a regular Cam2 with no edits instead. Simple.

2) Include profiles and pictures for all models. As others have pointed out, they never added Sonia Anglada. Weird.

3) And of course give us some more BTS!
At least a few of the following must exist:

Lola #1 BTS
Angel #1 BTS &/or Some kind of pre-scene chat or interview with Angela ( before filming #1,#2 or #3).
Michelle #2 BTS &/or Some kind of pre-scene chat or interview with Michelle ( before filming #1,#2 or #3).
Nicole BTS
Alma #1 BTS
Alina #1 BTS &/or Some kind of pre-scene chat or interview with Alina ( before filming #1 or #2).
Victoria BTS
Monro #1 BTS
Nona #2 BTS
Linda #1 BTS
Dulce Anabel BTS - one of her 2 scenes literally cuts off before she finishes swallowing (because she probably doesn't actually swallow )
Silvana #2 BTS
Miyuki Son BTS

[oldschoolbeat123]

Agreed with all the above.^^^^^ Especially completing video content for all the original models!

PB needs to take stock during this time and get back to the basics. Instead of pushing out cut-rate productions, refocus on your brand and the content that made you an internet sensation. Line up new gorgeous, compliant models that fit into the vision of what made PB great (no more cum dodging divas or retards like Lola Taylor) and be ready to film them when shooting can be done again... and do it PROPERLY.

Since you generally can't seem to figure it out, here are more helpful reminders.

Here is an example of what we DON'T want.

here is what we don't want.jpg

Here is what we do.

here is what we do.jpg

Maybe it’s a money issue. It’s crossed my mind a few times how much each production must cost. The model the camera equipment the editing equipment the guys the make up artist. It’s probably not cheap. And as content degrades people stop renewing, and cash flow decrease leading to cheaper models. If it’s a big pay day maybe the models will try a little harder but if not it’s going to be mediocre performance. And also it’s no secret anymore what the site is about I think maybe in the beginning the amateur models were a little more naive as to the totality of it.

There are so many things PB could have done and still can do to bring back the shock and awe of the site, but they don’t. It doesn’t fit into their “artistic vision”. Whatever that means. No one is going to cancel there membership for some really extreme content and continuously pushing models limits. They’re going to cancel because they’re bored and uninterested.

[Gregorious]

like the poll with Sonia morrocan , if you check it you find out that alot of ppl "liked" it and want more than "disliked" it

Those polls are set up before the actual scene, and most votes are placed before the scene is released. So the result says nothing about what the members think about the actual update. When the poll question are along the lines of "Do you want to se a new girl swallowing loads of cum, Yes or No, most voters are inclined to say Yes...

There are a lot of comments of "wow this is an amazing scene","finally a scene worthy of watching" and others to the same effect, and this is on scenes for Sonia morrocan and Lola Taylor and other fail scenes.

In relation to the total number of members, the number of guys posting comment are few, and as we know PB don't publish everything, but of course they publish everything that's positive in any way. And whatever kind of scene it is, out of all of the members there is always gonna be a handful who like that scene, and if any one of those make a comment PB is gonna publish it, that for sure.

As for the Sara scene, I'm sure PB is very very well aware that a lot of people want to se it, a small number of guys voting Yes or No here won't make any difference. It's not as if it's not published becuse PB have reasons to belive most members don't want it released. If they have something they can release they are gonna do it. Or, if you think about it, depending on the quality of what they eventually have, it may be in their best interest to not release it, as it seems to be no end to the hype it creates for PB as unpublished...

[Gregorious]

^Ha ha ha, you're right! I really should do something better with my time. My apologies to everyone here, and Kimmy, And PB Paris, etc, etc, just ignore my post above...

[Hola__Hamijos]

Maybe it’s a money issue...And as content degrades people stop renewing, and cash flow decrease leading to cheaper models...

A vicious circle. The best way to stop it is film better content even if that means filming less often.
example: 1 Kate Rich a month is better than 2 Kimmy's & 2 Sonia's.
Do you guys agree?

I think maybe in the beginning the amateur models were a little more naive as to the totality of it.

Since all the Original Ukrainians were filmed prior to the launching of the site, in many ways, I think that's true.

I'm sure PB is very very well aware that a lot of people want to see it.... if they have something they can release they are gonna do it...

Putting the Sara scene aside for a moment, tell me something, do you truly believe they have released all the BTS they have from the Original Ukrainians? Remember how happy people were when they saw the BTS for Kira and Mary?

Kimmy #1 bukkake
.... And I very much doubt it's Batard behind the camera because he can do a better job.

The cam1 and cam2 versions are 85 minutes, the "best version" are 67 minutes, leaving out some of the "non action" content.

Kimmy #1 Interview
Ok, the description says "she gets a surprise cumshot and obediently swallows it". And then we watch the video and clearly see she spits out all the cum, absolutely not swallowing anything. Funny, or what? Also the subtitles only covers about 2/3 of the dialogue. Not that I care that much, but it's just not professional.

Thank you for the detailed review. They aren't a waste of time - it's appreciated.

Gregorius i see you have time to waste
Really? On this Kimmy ????))

Someone has got to do it; he is warning others. A gentleman.

the thing is guys, although this forum is defacto the main discussion of PB, how much weight does it's members really have?

Perhaps more than you think.
1) There are a lot of people who read but aren't forum members.
2) Was it purely coincidence that the Mary and Kira BTS stuff showed up after we started talking about them again?
3) We don't know how membership stats actually fluctuate based on the scenes published.
4) Krull's detailed and well written posts here probably largely contributed to him getting his "ambassador" role.
5) You can't really post a picture analysis on PB's website (this is what we want to see...this is what we don't want...)

[bigload]

watched kate 1 again, such a great scene! I would really like to know what happened at the end of part 1 (even tough its obvious ). that last load was so huge it really finished her off...

[Gregorious]

1 Kate Rich a month is better than 2 Kimmy's & 2 Sonia's.
Do you guys agree?

Definitely, for the same reasons I think a high quality scene with 30-50 loads are better than a low quality scene with 100+ loads. Quality i king! Of course in the long run 1 scene a month would be difficult to hold up financially for PB without rethinking the business model.

Putting the Sara scene aside for a moment, tell me something, do you truly believe they have released all the BTS they have from the Original Ukrainians? Remember how happy people were when they saw the BTS for Kira and Mary?

If not footage specifically shot for BTS, they definitely should have some mixed footage not included in the released scenes. But maybe not enough to release as a dedicated BTS for one girl. If that's the case, here's a suggestion: Why not put together a "BTS compilation" of short snips of unreleased footage with the original girls. Could be just a couple of minutes of very short clips of conversations or bloopers etc with the original girls. I'm sure it would be appreciated.

Thank you for the detailed review. They aren't a waste of time - it's appreciated.

Thanks!

the thing is guys, although this forum is defacto the main discussion of PB, how much weight does it's members really have?

Perhaps more than you think.
1) There are a lot of people who read but aren't forum members.
2) Was it purely coincidence that the Mary and Kira BTS stuff showed up after we started talking about them again?
3) We don't know how membership stats actually fluctuate based on the scenes published.
4) Krull's detailed and well written posts here probably largely contributed to him getting his "ambassador" role.
5) You can't really post a picture analysis on PB's website (this is what we want to see...this is what we don't want...)

From what I heard PB (and the top boss) read this thread. As they should, and then make their own decisions. I'm sure the release of Kira and Mary BTS was only because people here persisted in posting about it. I did not think it would happen, but I was wrong. PB had probably forgotten about that footage completely.