Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

[paroxysmia]

I guess it's time to change the title of the topic.

According to Torbe, Nacho had unprotected sex with an infected woman and she told him later she was infected. And between that, he had sex with 9 women.

[Am0rIn0]

I doubt injecting all time people with penicillin can be very healthy.

Once in a while every couple of years isn't "all the time", also as actor you can choose to wait 4 weeks until new test, no one is forced to take shots.

Most people have a antibiotic therapy each year for throat, sinus, tonsils and oher breath infections anyway.

How many in reality were positive syphilis tests exept German male performer,Mina and Timea?

No other one.

Was Nata Ocean send home because of being positive test too?

She was here in December for about 2 weeks and shot normally the whole period, so likely a rumor.

I don't like industry are trying to normalize STD like it's just regular headache.

Nobody normalizes it, it's about to judge it realistically without getting hysterial meltdowns. Every industry has its risks in adult biz and escort it's std's, in an office job you can kill your spine by sitting all day, in construction work you can die or getting disabled during an accident, as well as in sports. Life comes with risk.

If one is afraid about STD's and don't want any risk must leave adult business and look for another job, simple as that.

[olga cabaeva]

Amorlino, industry is a murky businesses and during 2 years it's already like 4 or 5 outbreaks. Something failed r testing or medication or companies/agents hide something. Between 2007-2010 I remember just about 1 syphilis outbreak in Prague in 2007. Any way ,I prefer to talk to reliable clinics (not related to the industry,so they have no point to lie ). Also I will ask about if spreading syphilis or HIV is felony(like in California ) or a crime.
Producers and agents represent just their own interests,they don't care much about performers. I remember how everyone tried to convince me that all girls from pedo kult kaula-dharma are innocent angels despite they kidnapped and sexually abused 5 years old kid. I think the same thing with STD. Something is wrong or hidden

[olga cabaeva]

If one is afraid about STD's and don't want any risk must leave adult business and look for another job, simple as that.

UKAP did poll about condom law. Curiouse,male talents ( professional and amateurs) are against condom .I bet, your guys ,just want to fuck bareback . That's all .
And companies are mostly worried about their sales nothing else. But one day all industry will get some exotic shit from India or Dubai .Who you will blame? Agent who organised escort tours? I doubt it would be cured with your famouse penicillin

[olga cabaeva]

I guess it's time to change the title of the topic.

According to Torbe, Nacho had unprotected sex with an infected woman and she told him later she was infected. And between that, he had sex with 9 women.

Woman with pussy or woman with penis?

[Am0rIn0]

Amorlino, industry is a murky businesses and during 2 years it's already like 4 or 5 outbreaks.

With "outbreak" you mean cases? 2017 with 3 cases and 2018 also with 3 confirmed cases. Not really an "outbreak" if you consider that thousands of talents shoot with each other in Europe and only 3 were positive. Morevoer in a 20 people GB with 2 positive cases no one else caught it, as it simply isn't that infective.

Something failed r testing or medication or companies/agents hide something. Between 2007-2010 I remember just about 1 syphilis outbreak in Prague in 2007. Any way ,I prefer to talk to reliable clinics (not related to the industry,so they have no point to lie ).

Can you prove this serious accusation? Otherwise it's just defamation.

I can tell you what fails, talents who have unprotected sex in private with strangers and high risk groups, this is the fail. Always and everytime. Talents who got tested positive for syphilis without getting it from biz should be black listed as they do shit in private/escort and carry it into biz.

Producers and agents represent just their own interests,they don't care much about performers.

Everyone cares about himself first more or less, welcome to reality Olga.

I remember how everyone tried to convince me that all girls from pedo kult kaula-dharma are innocent angels despite they kidnapped and sexually abused 5 years old kid. I think the same thing with STD. Something is wrong or hidden

So you seriously project a sect topic to STD's? That's kind of confirmation bias. STD's can be explained by biological science, there are lots of studies und figures about them.

" Also I will ask about if spreading syphilis or HIV is felony(like in California ) or a crime."

If one KNOWS that he is positive and spreads it, it's a crime. If he doesn't know it, it isn't a crime.

UKAP did poll about condom law. Curiouse,male talents ( professional and amateurs) are against condom .I bet, your guys ,just want to fuck bareback . That's all .

If women run out of arguments it's always the evil men, spare us this please.

And companies are mostly worried about their sales nothing else.

...and female talents and escorts are worried about how to get maximum cash out of their pussies, once again, welcome to reality Olga.

But one day all industry will get some exotic shit from India or Dubai .

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For example what stuff exactly?

I read lots of hate for porn industry between your lines. If you hate it that much you should leave it.

[olga cabaeva]

Amorlino, industry is a murky businesses and during 2 years it's already like 4 or 5 outbreaks.

With "outbreak" you mean cases? 2017 with 3 cases and 2018 also with 3 confirmed cases. Not really an "outbreak" if you consider that thousands of talents shoot with each other in Europe and only 3 were positive. Morevoer in a 20 people GB with 2 positive cases no one else caught it, as it simply isn't that infective.

Since D.P. case there were already 4-5 outbreaks. And I don't know how many really positive cases on syphilis were . But constantly agencies or Dan or FSC advertised that all cancelled. At the same moment UKAP advertised it too . There was no outbreaks between 2007-2010 ,exept once in Prague in 2007. But agencies and companies managed it very quickly.

[Am0rIn0]

You mean 5 pos cases since D.P. 2017, yes including J., Mina and Timea. "Outbreak" is the wrong term, there were single cases.

There also were syphilis cases in 2012. This cancelation and 4 week production stop is a care measure as soon a single Syphilis case occurs.

But one must consider performers now often manage their own websites and create content with each other. No agencies involved, so no control possible, same as with escort. Anyway Syph is easily curable, HIV is the serious stuff.

[damiandingdong]

Holly shit! Drugs like PreP and Truvada are really expensive: around 20 000$ by year( 1600 $ by month )
https://breakthepatent.org
And don't forget to add cost of new kidney in couple years.

This is a FSC big boss
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericpaulleue
https://awards.wegohealth.com/nominees/3691
I guess,dude just gets % commissions from PreP sales +some money for organising PreP project itself. Check all his profiles on net. Whole porn industry is a wonderful camp to test all kind of drugs. My congratulations to Eric. Smart businessman.

It's scary people in those positions push for healthy people taking a very serious medication. PreP is not good for your health, not 100% safe either!
http://www.thebodypro.com/content/72567/weighing-risks-of-tdfftc-prep-side-effects-in-peop.html

Why can't there be an organisation that creates a healthy environment for healthy performers? An organisation that puts the performers first. Long term this is better for producers too, since more people would be willing to work. FSC certainly isn't ideal, they have double agendas.

[olga cabaeva]

There also were syphilis cases in 2012. This cancelation and 4 week production stop is a care measure as soon a single Syphilis case occurs.

But one must consider performers now often manage their own websites and create content with each other. No agencies involved, so no control possible, same as with escort. Anyway Syph is easily curable, HIV is the serious stuff.

I was retired after 2010. Yes,I heard about 2012 cases.
True about content creators. Adultfolio ,for example ,is full of castings for content share and shoots with amateurs. But at least UKAP wrote about full outbreak for everyone including people who shoots with amateurs. Twitter is hell now.
Germany and NZ just allow just condom escort. You can face money penalty for offering and bb. I think,also region Victoria (Melbourne) has a condom law.

It's scary people in those positions push for healthy people taking a very serious medication. PreP is not good for your health, not 100% safe either!
http://www.thebodypro.com/content/72567/weighing-risks-of-tdfftc-prep-side-effects-in-peop.html

Why can't there be an organisation that creates a healthy environment for healthy performers? An organisation that puts the performers first. Long term this is better for producers too, since more people would be willing to work. FSC certainly isn't ideal, they have double agendas.

In Spain it's still illegal or not totally legal because of being experiemenal drug.
No idea what happend with ATM in US. At least they didn't try to sell you anything.

[olga cabaeva]

It's scary people in those positions push for healthy people taking a very serious medication. PreP is not good for your health, not 100% safe either!
http://www.thebodypro.com/content/72567/weighing-risks-of-tdfftc-prep-side-effects-in-peop.html

A bit more about Eric
https://twitter.com/EricPaulLeue/status ... 53221?s=19 ttps://twitter.com/TheJasonDomino/statu ... 95648?s=19
They use Nacho's case to push more people on PreP
Already in Dean clinic in London

[Am0rIn0]

I was retired after 2010. Yes,I heard about 2012 cases.
True about content creators. Adultfolio ,for example ,is full of castings for content share and shoots with amateurs. But at least UKAP wrote about full outbreak for everyone including people who shoots with amateurs. Twitter is hell now.
Germany and NZ just allow just condom escort. You can face money penalty for offering and bb. I think,also region Victoria (Melbourne) has a condom law.

And in France prostitution is even completely illegal for clients, guess who cares?

One can't enforce law and rules were you can't control it. Would need to end privacy and implat every citizen a microchip and a mini camera in the forehead. I hope no one in Brussels reads this idea...

Same with private shooting, private scenes, everything where no professional agency is involved and I estimate that this are already over 50% of shooting. I see so many models here on ebi who are listed at agencies since almost a year, still active and only a dozen scenes... I suppose because the other 90 scenes are shot by small ones, published at unknown sites or even unpublished.

Now every model wants to shoot for artsyfartsy Vixen since they shoot in europe, but I tell you what, they get 3 scenes maximum and that's it. Same with other huge labels, that's maybe good work for 3 months for the average models. The mid and longterm money for the models comes already from the many small shooters, privates and their own projects.

[olga cabaeva]

Same with private shooting, private scenes, everything where no professional agency is involved and I estimate that this are already over 50% of shooting. I see so many models here on ebi who are listed at agencies since almost a year, still active and only a dozen scenes... I suppose because the other 90 scenes are shot by small ones, published at unknown sites or even unpublished.

Now every model wants to shoot for artsyfartsy Vixen since they shoot in europe, but I tell you what, they get 3 scenes maximum and that's it. Same with other huge labels, that's maybe good work for 3 months for the average models. The mid and longterm money for the models comes already from the many small shooters, privates and their own projects.

"Professional agency " was working with Amour Russe from 2009 up to police banged them in Paris couple years ago.
Maybe 5-10 performers shoot every day or almost every day for professional companies. The rest must find another options.
If girls want to shoot just for Vixen or Tushy,I am very happy for them. They do nice movies and pay much better then other companies. If a girl doesn't want to shoot for any other web or be paid less ,you can't blame her for doing it.
I still think condom shoots will be solution to reduce a risk. At least model must have a choice to shoot with a condom or not. But I understand it will never happend.

[Am0rIn0]

If girls want to shoot just for Vixen or Tushy,I am very happy for them. They do nice movies and pay much better then other companies. If a girl doesn't want to shoot for any other web or be paid less ,you can't blame her for doing it.

Sure, but those models also can't blame production if no one else shoots her after her 3 scenes for Vixen because she asks for ridiculos prices. That's how a market works.

I still think condom shoots will be solution to reduce a risk. At least model must have a choice to shoot with a condom or not. But I understand it will never happend.

That's off the table, it looks they decided to introduce expensive HIV PCR tests and allow tests for only 14 days. This basically would at least triple test costs for a model. In Budapest from 70 to at least 240 EUR per month and in Prague from 140 EUR to around 400 EUR per month.

Wonder who pays this in the end, Vidal for sure not.

Could be the death for bg as for escort and solo you don't need any tests and more girls will decide for the easier way. And everything just because an irresponsible fool got unprotected anal sex with a HIV+ tranny at the other end of the continent.

[paroxysmia]

Found that https://medium.com/@lianneyounguk/porn- ... 4593a6286c

First generation actresses on the list are Denise Martin, Cady Doll, Ginenra, Talia Mint, Linda del sol, Gina Ferocuious, Monica Mavi, Rhona Stops.

Ginenra is probably Ginebra.