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[Mr. Peter]

Giorgio, I totally agree with you.

Guys, it's not a disaster, it's only a part of never ending circle of evolution, like in fashion, ppl's habbits etc.

I think now we are going back to the early 90s. I noticed the problem with anal porn started about 3 yrs ago because people started to be overwhelmed by the amount of it. At that time everybody was shooting it (even bad prods, amateurs,..) With the quantity rising the quality went really down and me as an anal porn fan you have to agree with me that there is nothing more boring that anal sex with a girl that is clearly not into it or it is badly shot (bad lighting, bad angles,..). Even the big names like Rocco, Christoph started to bite their tails.

In late 90s and 00s, the anal porn was interesting for customers because it was still quite new and unique porn act and producers really took great care
to shoot it with the right girls and with precious caution to capture it right and nasty. Started with Seymore, Extreme Associates, Evil Angel, Anabolic, German productions...
Giorgio, for the same reason you made a big hit in the market in 2005-2010, because you took it to another next level (enormous gapes, fisting, sluttiness), but then it happed again and the end of Russian supply put a nail in the coffin.


So what would you do if start biting your tail? You have to backup, go to the roots and think twice what's the purpose of it all and what's making money again - that's what Giorgio is doing right now. And the profit correlates with that.

I realized that girls are still the same for years. The number of them that are really into anal never changed dramatically and is still quite low.
It was always a question of making bigger money what convinced some of them to become so called anal queens in the eyes of customers.

Anyway, finally Gapelover has some point. With the amount of stuff online, now it's interestingly hard to find new not boring anal porn. To me it seems
all the good anal was shot 10 years ago released on DVDs.
It will take some time to clear the market from the anal junk stuff and for a few anal porn producers to develop interesting anal porn again.
Giorgio, you clearly could be one of them, like you say, if you won't push too hard and just let it flow and curiously watch the girl's pool to find the right one to do it..

P.S. J.Y. LeCastel said: "Slowly, but surely!"

[Engineer]

giorgio, thanks to reply your p.o.v. here

My opinion:

• In fact, I prefer anal porn but I understand you can go on a directional way to pussy fucking.
• There are different anal porn shootings and you did it the way I preferred (despite the quality of image was not the best). In fact you could bring some hot newbies to hard anal scenes, including dp's and so on...
• What I suggest for you is this way:
  1st - Cast new hot girls and do some solo scenes (for tease us..);
  2nd - If you can, do some b/g pussy with that girl (some more scenes), to capture the interest on her and put us imagining how it would be the first anal (if she does, or not, etc;
  3rd - It could be difficult, but if you can turn a "pussy girl" to a "ass girl", that will definitely delight your fans;

This is only my opinion but I think some people here thinks also like this...

..And I repeat, thanks for your participation here at EBF

[giorgiograndi]

Finally few post from people with a the overview of the situation.

The the challenges are much more.
1 - Bring anal sex/fisting/etc. into scenes with the plot (rocco rules, but its too much unreal sometimes)
2 - Shout new girls, and shoot smt interesting with the model "alone" and with no anal
3 - Scout new girls and try to turn vag. models into anal models

Gonzo is dead, specially now that any director shoot a girl undressing and then fucked in the ass. Gonzo is really smt very different. A girl undressing and fucked in the ass is boring, anyone can do it, for shoot "gonzo" u need to have talent and ideas.
On the other hand, scenes with plots are much more interesting and much more profitable on dvd and tv then gonzo. And on internet the "pure nasty anal lovers" wont mind for the plot, but all the costumers who love plots (much more people then gonzo/anal eddicted) will find it much more interesting then a girl slaughtered after 15 minutes of teasing.
In usa they understood it 10 years ago, and now adding extreme anal to few of their new contents they sell also to anal users.

Dont be fooled by appearances...

[horndogger]

I love it Giorgio. You have everyone buying your crap. Buddy, you're website has been hit and miss for 2 years ! Once Russia's porn scene collapsed, so did your content ! Russia was a gold mine and allowed guys like you to produce instead of working for others, thanks to cheap production prices and girls willing to do anal and dp no problem. Now that you're in Europe, trying to compete against Rocco, Woodman, 21 sextury, Legalporno, you're coming up with this song and dance about anal not being popular. Giorgio, just look at this forum, LP has over 1 million reads on their thread, all of the 100,000's of viewed threads are all anal and gonzo related. Look at Adultdvdtalk, by far the most active threads are the anal and gonzo related ones like "2014 First Anal" and "Mike Adriano" and "Evil Angel" ..... Just admit now that Russia is done you can't produce anal and dp content and compete against others. Get some people to back you financially, for the love of god fix your website which has been promised for 2 years, then come back and talk.

[giorgiograndi]

I shoot anal contents every week, I dont have problem to shoot anal, and I dont have financial problems about.
Your conclusions, technically talking, are wrong.
You can argue with me about anything, but not about how to do my job and you dont know anything about how the promotion of adult websites works.

Go on pornhub, select top rated scenes and note how many anal scenes you find in the first page of the top rated list by week. 1 out of 22 (in this moment)
A little bit better on Youporn, 7 on 31
But if u select *top rated ever*, I see 2 scenes with anal out of 31 on youporn 3 out of 22.
1000 visit on one post Vs 90.000.000 visit/day on 2 tubes. What is more profitable?

Then, Im updating with old contents on my websites, I convert better then before (because Ive better technology the before), but I can not convert like I would like traffic of big tubes because Ive too much anal, girls are moslty average (also if extreme) and quality is too much gonzo e too much *carnage*. You all doesnt consider the the "generational change", what is old for you is new for all the other people who start join porn because there are not enough dvds, or dvds are too expensive. Most of affiliate webmaster who works in porn 5 years before are out of the business, the sources of traffic are big tubes. If you want to sell you must upload high rank clips there and get traffic.
Gonzo lovers are on internet from long time, plot lovers are coming now, and there is no enough material for them. Also, gonzo/anal lovers can find for free what they want because anyone upload all full scenes for free on tubes for generate more traffic. This is why sexart or other DSLR websites are selling more and more every day spreading much more less their contents

Talk about fact and about numbers instead then just report the "small word" where you enjoy porn.

[utopiaa]

Another view you could also take on that could be anal lovers pay for porn and don't leech on tube sites (far fetched i know )

I don't know the inner workings in porn industry, but in Europe only few company's focuses on "good" anal porn, but the regular vag porn seems to get produced a lot on different sites. You would think a lot more competition in that market.

But if company's start to focus more on story and vag porn, then we need to wait few years when there is over saturation on that and then company's start to focus on anal again when there is less of it. At least that is what i hope

[giorgiograndi]

Another view you could also take on that could be anal lovers pay for porn and don't leech on tube sites (far fetched i know )

I don't know the inner workings in porn industry, but in Europe only few company's focuses on "good" anal porn, but the regular vag porn seems to get produced a lot on different sites. You would think a lot more competition in that market.

But if company's start to focus more on story and vag porn, then we need to wait few years when there is over saturation on that and then company's start to focus on anal again when there is less of it. At least that is what i hope

You are not far from the topic.
Market is saturated by anal contents. The free market especially is over saturated. Anal gonzo and gonzo anal. Girls who undress, play with toys and then someone fucks her.
All the same stuff, over and over again.
Scenes who became longer and longer for justify clips by 10 minutes uploaded on tubes for grab traffic.
Gonzo has been killed by this way to produce (I do not exclude myself). No fantasy, no creativity, no craziness anymore, just a factory of the same stuff every time over and over again with girls fucked as strong as possible like if "strong means good".

I really think in this way, its not a question of anything else then my personal and professional opinion.

[Mr. Peter]

Good point about the plot and new ideas, Giorgio (even if I think anal lovers like plots too, sometimes). Sorry to name the obvious one, but Brazzers rule now at that I think.
Another example: I would never really thought that the Disharmony stuff we shot several years ago with Fred2KN (http://www.orchidfilms.xxx/blog.html) could really touch customer's needs (to be honest, I thought it was amazing stuff, but it was so different than any other other porn at that time). Now with all the boring porn it could fit the market perfectly as a nice little stylish niche for ppl.

horndogger: With the respect to your opinion I think your theory is wrong. Number of people posting on anal themed porn forum threads is not globally wise a representative sample how many of them actually pay that kind of content. Actually it's a minority of all the same die-hard fans who starts and drives this threads and post there. Eventually some lost viewer post there when he is searching for something particular.

Look, I have no big experience in porn industry, but I know what people like most: meeting girls, personal contact, little chitty chat, online cams where they tell girls what to do, AND solo and vag porn with fantasy or staged plots that look like they could be there instead of that guy/girl.

P.S.: What's so popular on artsy DSLR style porn (I don't mean technically, but visually)? To me it's already dead, every scenes look the same with same style, because everybody is copying the others without even thinking about the visual style or changing anything. Oh, my god, and plus the horrible non-color graded washout look. I can't stand it!

[pinkincide]

No fantasy, no creativity, no craziness anymore...

Don't I wish!!!
I have to wade through shitloads of "fantasy, creativity, and craziness" just to find porn that's COMPETENTLY SHOT .
All I ever want is for the cameraman to hold the fucking camera still, and not edit the hell out of the footage in post. Instead I've gotten 20+ years of hacked up bullshit and directors goofing off--which is what "fantasy, creativity, and craziness" inevitably boils down to in the porn world.

[shark1]

There is still no replacement in porn for a very cute young girl getting fucked in the ass and gaping

[Engineer]

giorgio, thanks for the anal scene with Jennifer

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18791&p=292441#p292441
now released at legalporno..

You have filmed more scenes with her?

[habari]

Jessica but who cares.

giorgio, thanks for the anal scene with Jennifer

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=18791&p=292441#p292441
now released at legalporno..

You have filmed more scenes with her?

[banger]

I don't get the argument. Each to their own. Early anal porn had rotten production values, and starred people like "The Hedgehog". Now, that was boring. Good grief, ugly people fucking is still ugly people fucking.

For me, anal became worthwhile watching when Meridian and Daniella Rush started showing how much they liked it. Then there was Sylvia Saint and Monica Sweetheart. All great girls, and always worth watching. But, for quite a period, it was dominated by American cock, or quasi American cock (e.g. Steve Holmes), and it started to get boring.

But, along came a new generation of girls - Lucy Lee, Claudia Rossi, Julie Silver, Sarah Twain and, ultimately, Angel Dark. They were all great ass fucks - they'd take cum in their ass, do ATM, do ATP, do ATOGM, do ATOGP, do gangbangs, most did DAP. They were great. But, again, the yanks turned to a formula - so it started to get boring.

Then, along came Sineplex, with Wiska, Priscilla, Lis, Maya, Wendy, and the queen of them all, Moni. Seeing Moni work in anal scenes was an education. Her tits weren't big, her hips appeared a little wide, yet when she did anal, or partnered in anal, or did ATOGM, or ATP, the way she responded was a revelation. Utterly, utterly brilliant.

So, a few years down the track, along came the next generation......Sasha Rose, Abelinda, Barbamiska. Have you guys seen these girls properly ass fucked? Jesus, you wouldn't be talking about a reversion a mostly pussy work if you had.

Anyone remember Barbarmiska's Devil's group scene? The girl's as was ravaged. Yet, right up until the end, she was working as hard as she could to take cock as deep in her ass as possible. Early on in the scene, she started squirting with the biggest cock (and black) in the scene buried to the balls in her ass....she fucking loved it, and we loved watching her love it.

And, what about Abelinda (Benta, Fiva, Sarah)? Just a brilliant ass fuck. Pussy fucking couldn't compare. Sineplex made a scene with Benta and Barbamiska. It was epic.

So, each to their own, but if I want to watch a movie with plot and production values, I'll watch a real movie. However, if I want to watch great porn, then I'll watch a pretty girl being ass fucked, preferably over and over by multiple cocks, while she holds her ass open and waits for it to be filled with cum.

And, their must be lots of ATM and ATP.

[giorgiograndi]

giorgio, thanks for the anal scene with Jennifer

http://eurobabeforum.com/viewtopic.php? ... 41#p292441
now released at legalporno..

You have filmed more scenes with her?

Ive smt for norestnetwork. In july I will release 4-5 websites, then I will try to schedule smt with her for the end of the summer.

[oA_Ao]

Ive smt for norestnetwork. In july I will release 4-5 websites, then I will try to schedule smt with her for the end of the summer.

What "smt" stands for?

...and thanks for the hot scene with Jessica. She looks great.
Btw... I prefer puchasing scenes at legalPorno instead of have memberships at many sites.