Private is back

[Mr. Peter]

From my p.o.v. romanian Raul Cristian/Chris Rolie (whatever his real name is) is the first one to blame, as he came up with this kind of agression and degradation.

IMHO nope. Speaking of mainstream porn, Rocco was one of the first that has brought this stuff to attention to mainstream porn consumers and was very (un)popular for that (depends what u like).

[Vulture]

And speaking of demand for violent/brutal/not passinate porn - just look around yourself - its how the society behaves now, loose morals everywhere, so what would you expect? Its us...Honey here, honey there times are over.

What on Earth do "loose morals in society" have to do with violence towards women in porn?

You are saying that violence towards women is now prevalent in regular sex and thus porn is just mirroring society? A very strange view IMHO.

You like violence towards women in porn, just admit it. A "blame society" defence to get you off the hook is pretty flimsy and cowardly. The vast majority of guys would never dream of doing that stuff when having sex. Very risky and so little to gain. Having great (or even average) sex is enough for most of us, I'm sure.

[opap]

Does he mean loose or lose ?

REM: Loosing my religion

[Vulture]

Does he mean loose or lose ?

REM: Loosing my religion

Either way it means the same thing. He's saying that men are grabbing women by the throat in porn because they're (apparently) doing it in the wider world. Absolute and utter tosh.

[Mr. Peter]

First of all, sorry for the OT and my poor english skills.

Of course I meant loose.
Let's face the reality - the world IS changing, if not already changed (the opinions differ on this).
Im speaking generally about the change of people's behavior in civilized countries all over the world.

We are already too far from last BIG-BANG, which apparently was 2nd World War, and we are just luckily avoiding something like 3rd WW (if we could name it like that). No major global violence relief (and I hate using these words here) for 65 years!

Don't you see just raising intolerancy, higher tendency to roughly push ahead each own's ideads without listening to the others', to give more priorities
on individual's rather than common?...no, u dont see? I see a lot.

The second thing is that like modern society is trying more and more to humanly control violent behavior in the society (quite unsuccessfully), it on the other hand generates rather the opposite effect (like hammering a nail with a loaf of bread).
Last but not least, in many coutnries there's something we can call the crisis of middle-class (more poor and rich people, less middle-class). That gives confusion to poor and even more feeling of power to rich.

In other words, people have itching palms (or fists?). This is not some sociolgist's bullshit (but yes, I like sociology, behavior studies and things like that), its just my own observations over past few years. IMHO those moments I described are seads of violence.


One really stupid example, but hey, still an example: TV programme during Christmas on 9 major Czech TVs: criminal series, criminal films, criminal thrillers, violence, dead, shooting,...all over the f@cking day, on 10 movies like that you have 1 romance or a children fairytale. Major Headline News..the same.
When I was a kid it was the opposite and everybody was complainig. Today you dont even realize that when watching TV. Fortunately I almost dont watch TV. As you see violence everywhere (and its most of the time a hidden one), the bar of tolerance (threshold) is constantly rising. You need more, more and more...

And sorry, Vulture, to hear your opinion, this has nothing to do with me liking violence on women (even if its not rue)! Not fxxxing at all, man!!!
Anyway this is beyond this thread.

[Vulture]

First of all, sorry for the OT and my poor english skills.

Of course I meant loose.
Let's face the reality - the world IS changing, if not already changed (the opinions differ on this).
Im speaking generally about the change of people's behavior in civilized countries all over the world.

We are already too far from last BIG-BANG, which apparently was 2nd World War, and we are just luckily avoiding something like 3rd WW (if we could name it like that). No major global violence relief (and I hate using these words here) for 65 years!

Don't you see just raising intolerancy, higher tendency to roughly push ahead each own's ideads without listening to the others', to give more priorities
on individual's rather than common?...no, u dont see? I see a lot.

The second thing is that like modern society is trying more and more to humanly control violent behavior in the society (quite unsuccessfully), it on the other hand generates rather the opposite effect (like hammering a nail with a loaf of bread).
Last but not least, in many coutnries there's something we can call the crisis of middle-class (more poor and rich people, less middle-class). That gives confusion to poor and even more feeling of power to rich.

In other words, people have itching palms (or fists?). This is not some sociolgist's bullshit (but yes, I like sociology, behavior studies and things like that), its just my own observations over past few years. IMHO those moments I described are seads of violence.


One really stupid example, but hey, still an example: TV programme during Christmas on 9 major Czech TVs: criminal series, criminal films, criminal thrillers, violence, dead, shooting,...all over the f@cking day, on 10 movies like that you have 1 romance or a children fairytale. Major Headline News..the same.
When I was a kid it was the opposite and everybody was complainig. Today you dont even realize that when watching TV. Fortunately I almost dont watch TV. As you see violence everywhere (and its most of the time a hidden one), the bar of tolerance (threshold) is constantly rising. You need more, more and more...

And sorry, Vulture, to hear your opinion, this has nothing to do with me liking violence on women (even if its not rue)! Not fxxxing at all, man!!!
Anyway this is beyond this thread.

Well I take on board your point. It's very valid and very well expressed, however I don't personally see what it has to do with porn. Porn is a representation of very wanton, spontaneous sex - the kind of sex most of us very rarely (if ever) get to indulge in. In order to be hot it has to project a willing from both (or all) participants. Of course you can still display this willing if a male is being aggressive to a female partner but it's a more subtle and delicate skill. And it is likely by definition to appeal to a narrower audience than porn whereby neither party is physically aggressive towards the other.

I don't really see a connection between loose morals and porn or the content displayed within it. You could argue that in times of stricter morals (say, Victorian Britain) porn becomes even more necessary and valuable as the ability to get your rocks off "naturally" diminishes. And if morals loosen massively then you would expect more widespread porn, which should of course mean more variety. And yet we are not getting variety at this time. So where are we? I don't know. I don't think it matters. Directors just need to be putting out to seed the old guard of male actors who can no longer fuck on camera without abusing their female co-stars. It's that simple.

[chris]

Dirty Diamonds is good movie,dp for Aliz and Melanie Memphis.

front & back cover

[opap]

Private Media kicked out Berth Milton as CEO; and this is not even published (which is mandatory for a publicly traded company) from the comp. and can´t be seen on the website of prvt.com;
as well I haven´t seen any financial results for the full year 2011 yet, but from the numbers i know i wouldn´t swear the company will last forever;
isn´t EBI worried to get the royalties (or whatever it is called) from Private-owned Gamelink ?
i would change the headline of this thread in "Private is lack"

http://www.thelocal.se/40050/20120402/

[Christoph Clark]

they are dead

[chris]

Private 8K Names New Board Members, Confirms Prast is CEO
http://business.avn.com/articles/video/ ... 72096.html

[STEMCELL]

prast already led Beate Uhse into turmoil
if he does not get fresh money from any these corrupt and criminal spanish bankers who financed their biz so far there´s no chance for private to survive
or maybe DSK can lend his money for some callgirl movies

[chris]

yeah...bla bla bla
I wish all companies who are corrupted and dead to released 6 new movie titles every month like Private do in the last months

[STEMCELL]

you have no clue. who do think paid these movies ???

[chris]

The german government as everything in Europe

I have no clue?yes,do you know the other?

[Christoph Clark]

The german government as everything in Europe

I have no clue?yes,do you know the other?

when i said dead,,it was somewhere a kind of joke,there are not what they was,,and to take 100 actors and actress on the same place doing 7,8,9,or 30 scenes per days,this is not for me the best result.anyway it is my opinion,after where the money is coming i don,t care,but they defenatly should to do differently,my opinion again....chris the new guy of private is a greek,,very rich guy,but iam not sure he knows the right people honest and pro to be on his side,my opinion again,,i was very surprise when 50% of the europeene stars was on his boat and nobody call me,,since i have begin this job,33 years ago,always when a new group was beginning to do porn i was always in the team,,it mean somes peoples behind try to keep the big fish for them,,,not good for the big boss,my opinion again