Don't you think cumshots are overrated?

[brawnypandora0]

I'm talking only about scenes with one girl and one guy, not like cumforcover which is a different genre. The fixation on cumshots/moneyshots so rampant in porn is quite overrated IMO; producers even use fake cum now. To me, the cumshot represents a "surrendering" of the male essence to the woman who is able to endure multiple orgasms and hours upon hours of continuous sex. You might have heard Woodman mention the "Chinese method" in which he lasts longer with beautiful women who ordinarily would make most men cum in less than ten minutes. He's referring to this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taoist_sex

Sex really is just another form of exercise; holding back the cum is something that can be practiced. I'd much rather buy a DVD that's just one long scene with no definite end than another boring DVD with multiple half hour scenes with the predictable cumshots.

The ultimate and ideal erotic depiction is the expression on a Eurogirl's face (after two hours) as if they're asking, "please, when the torturous pleasure will stop"

[robot]

female beauty has nothing to do with the speed at which you come. wait. actually, now that I think about it, it's quite the opposite

[hardware]

I didn't know they were rated, but I don't think cumshots are overrated. Whether we're talking about real life sex or cinematic standards, a climax at the end is to be preferred. Having said that, I'll grant you that not every director or editor knows how to handle it.

PS - If you really believe that sex is just another form of exercise then you have my sympathy.

[robot]

PS - If you really believe that sex is just another form of exercise then you have my sympathy.

WHAT!? I'm sure it's good for his wrist!!

[brawnypandora0]

excellent for cardiovascular health

[IMaRetArd]

to watch a scene without a cumshot (facial in particular, a must for a b/g scene to b great) is like running a marathon without reaching the finishline. u enjoy it, but its never complete. nah man....gimme big massive facials....otherwise i just cant imagine what its like to finally reach the sensation of climax with the girl.

[Winston]

I guess to me...as it relates to viewing a porn scene...cumshots are both overrated and underrated.
To me they matter and they don't matter.

We are almost conditioned by nature..and by repeated porn viewing..to wait in expectation of and for them etc.

I think that a well done and creatively shot/executed porn scene could be successfully pulled off (..no pun. ) without
the showing of an active cumshot....but all of that type of extra effort would probably be asking for a hell of a lot from most
of todays active directors and producers.

I also think that most porn viewers have been conditioned to expect (..and to like/enjoy.) the usual cumshot climax to
cap off the usual type of sex scenes.
The average porn viewers imagination and universe would most likely have to be opened and expanded towards the acceptance
of scenes without the usual scene ending cumshot(s).


I find this topic to be very interesting at many different levels....mostly psychologically..and also creatively from the aspect of
a porn creator and as a porn viewer.


One of the very first..if not the very first..porn scene that I ever viewed dealt with the specific topic of the "cumshot" in a very
interesting, amusing and highly erotic way.
The nature of that porn scene has never left my mind and my imagination.
I wish that I could somehow find and view that same scene again...but it was from an early 80's scene that is probably long gone and I have
no idea who was in it or any of the related titles and companies.
It was something like an early 80's cheaply made compilation type of tape...the production values of the scene appeared to be very
lacking...but it just shows how something can be made from practically nothing...even though a good portion of porn's "power"
takes place in the viewer's own mind/imagination.


Oh...what was it that we were discussing?....cumshots?...oh yeah...cumshots.
...squirt squirt...squish squish...oh how they can be so..delish.

Come...and get some!

[brawnypandora0]

I agree, there needs to be more variety since the cumshot is the most predictable part of scenes. I think it's much more erotic for a scene to end because the girl is too physically exhausted and paralyzed with pleasure and screams, "Please stop, I surrender to your manhood!"

Plus, porn studs would be able to do multiple scenes in one day...

BTW, what's a bunny girl, Winston?

[IMaRetArd]

The average porn viewers imagination and universe would most likely have to be opened and expanded towards the acceptance
of scenes without the usual scene ending cumshot(s).

Opened and expanded? hmm not quite sure i get that, but every scene that involves sex u see things happening (leaving specific genres/fetishes out of it). to leave the cumshot out would mean a different aspect of it, which would mean the more "basic" sex to be the "highlight" of the scene.i must say i think that is very hard to do. Personally ofc ive seen scenes where i do cum without a cumshot, but it has however not been at the "climax" of the scene where both sides orgasm/cum. instead its been right in the middle of the scene itself.

amongst those scenes was (as example) a really nice anal b/g scene with claudia rossi and some hard bj scenes with various actresses. i think it was more the fact that claudia made it look really natural and enjoyable as a factor for the climax, and the bj parts was more the harder "make me cum" aspect of it. However i dont think its easy to manage these things since it takes a lot from both director and actors.

ofc its indiviual as u say, but if we try and generalize it and say that it have to be opened and expanded towards non cumshot scenes it seems much more like a challenge for the director then anything else. and i must say that if u have seen so many pornscenes, and to do it without a climax takes a lot more for the individuals imagination.

[Speelie]

What I don't understand is when someone, Roger Pipe, for example, suggests that facials are "natural" and creampies are "contrived." I think it is the opposite, interrupting the fucking to get into position for a facial is contrived, while keeping at the fucking until the guy blows his load is natural. To me, the latter suggests that the girl was so good that the guy couldn't be bothered to stop until he was done (since we're mentioning psychological implications, that's mine).

I'm still confused by Evil Angel's policy that all sorts of bodily fluids are okay, along with milk and objects in every orifice, with the lone exception of internal cumshots. Erik Everhard jumped over to Jules Jordan Video so he could keep filming them, and Manuel Ferrara had to stop filming them (but kept performing them for other directors). I noticed in Rocco's Reality in Prague that Rocco came in Defrancesca Gellardo's pussy, but, knowing EA's policy, didn't show it off afterward.

I hope EA will again allow creampies, and I hope to see more of them, in general, with Eurogirls

[IMaRetArd]

i agree 100% that facials are NOT natural, i mean ffs its not like u ask ur IRL gf to get down so u can cum in her face every time u need to cum.

i do however disagree that its better with creampies then with facials since its easier to see whats going on when u see a facial then when u see 2 actors moaning on top of eachother. u can ofc imagine it, but like i said its harder to do.

i do however dont understand why anyone would "not allow" creampies? sounds really weird to me, i mean its kinda weird to ban something since creampies is more a genre on its own just as facials are. why not have both if its required to have a a facial? i mean if he cums in her pussy then show it, and then add the facial with a bj later. its not impossible if the actors are good enough (ok pushing the actors a bit here )

[dap-addict]

Creampies were banned from EA after the last HIV breakout in LA about 5-7 years ago.
It was claimed cuming inside was too risky.
But it was just a whichhunt, they needed a scapegoat.
Later Stagliano created the Buttman spring-off label to find a way out of his own EA ban to still show creampies. But Buttman was too niche for EE or Ferrara of course.

I dont watch such porn without cumshots. Dont watch lez, too. I do want facials AND creampies - as well as cum flying everywhere, especially stockings and heels.

[facialmaster]

to watch a scene without a cumshot (facial in particular, a must for a b/g scene to b great) is like running a marathon without reaching the finishline. u enjoy it, but its never complete. nah man....gimme big massive facials....otherwise i just cant imagine what its like to finally reach the sensation of climax with the girl.

mr facialmaster quotes this

[dap-addict]

I recently watched some older Private movies with slowdown b/w facial replay.
And boys I like that!
May look pathetic at times, but at least they gave the cumshot a special place in their scenes! They cared about showing a cute girls face honored from a different angel again. They cared about showing her reaction to those streams of goo hitting her face, her nose, her eyes, her hair etc.

[gape]

Not sure, I think producers underate this key moment these days. Sometimes getting the position totally wrong. Cum can be hard to aim, and often it is wasted
on the subject of natural etc... well the idea of sex is to reproduce so surely a cumshot is required? I want a scene to end with a climax.
Not that a anal porn shoot comes anywhere near reality

cum on face threadhttp://www.eurobabeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11125.