What are the rates for scenes?

[dap-addict]

hints as to what is the more decisive factors or something?

Its pure market economy.
The most demanded acts pay most.
And in cheaper places directors can have the same work done cheaper.

[OneWhoKnows]

Saw your site, its good. Who are the two girls on the upper right corner? The blonde one and the brunette one wearing the red bead necklace.

Sorry for the late reply dude. Like Frigo already mentioned, the blonde is of course Mandy Dee.

The brunette is Sandra aka Irenka:
http://russianpornindex.com/girls/sandra.html
http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/irenka.html

I also shot a few backstage pix of her during my first trip to St. Petersburg in 2010: http://russianpornindex.com/blog/?p=302

[dap-addict]

Btw, seems like Russia is the savior for dap fans. So many Russian girls doing dap. I think almost all the new ones in the last two years have done it. And the total number of Russians is also catching up on the EBI board with Czech and Hungary!

In these times of crisis dap fees in Russia are still affordable, yes.
It also payes good for the girls, thus they are motivated to try it.
But not every girl can perform it, also not in Russia.
In 2010 it was 20% of the Piter pro-pool maybe.
On the other hand in 2010 we also had quite a few high priced French daps - mainly shot in Toulouse if I am not mistaken.

[arnoldsty]

OneWhoKnowns, thanks for identifying the two girls.

I have seen both their videos but in the photo they look different. They have a more "glamour" look around them. Esp. Irenka.

dap-addict, how many more dap-ies do you think Russia will produce. If the rates in Russia catch up because of the internet, where will producers turn to next?

Belarus, Moldova, Ukraine. I think porn production is banned in all those places.

[dap-addict]

arnoldsty, I dont think dap rates will catch up in Russia very soon.
Internet might make a bit it harder to recruit new girls in Piter, but dont forget that the provinces are still full of thousands of cuties lookig for easy money.
Finally the number of daps produced depends on the directors demanding it. Piter shot daps are quite cheap...but still not for free!

[dap-addict]

I think everyone can do the math that neither those guys nor the models get rich.

Just read on a Romanian porn casting page that they promise talented girls up to 10000 Euro per week in Budapest!
That would make them richt soon, indeed!

[xabia123]

I think everyone can do the math that neither those guys nor the models get rich.

Just read on a Romanian porn casting page that they promise talented girls up to 10000 Euro per week in Budapest!
That would make them richt soon, indeed!

Not quite on theme, but if they include escorting this is quite achievable, at least for a while. Even taking escort agency cut out, look at eg Candy Alexa (in Paris) at €400 for 2 hours. Say 30% agency, at only 4 clients a day is nearly 8000 Euro in a 7 day week and there are extra charges for eg anal. If the lady makes it (Angel Dark, Aletta Ocean) charge can be far higher. Presume this is why porn may be seen as a step to relative riches.

[fallon]

Talked to A famous Hungarian Model (not Pornstar) quite recently who did A Masturbation-Scene for 21Sextury back in 2005. She got paid 200 Euros for that. But when the Romanian Girls conquered Budapest, those rates went dowanwards....now she was offered to do A Solo-Scene for as much as 50 Euros...and she told me that an Assfuck pays 200, a DP 400 Euros...now if anybody still complains why those Girls do escort for a Living...

[dap-addict]

Those rates sound very low for Budapest, indeed!
Did she contact one of the welknown reliable agencies?
Rates had to come down a bit after the US producers inflicted peak around 2005. Romanian girls had a share in that, for sure.

[claudia_rossi_fan_1]

I am sure if we knew the real numbers of porn sites paying members, you would realize how much the biz is slowly dying a painful death.

So, these small rates are no surpise at all.

The money isn't flowing anymore, period.

Unless you cheat and you make a joint venture with the tube sites a la Brazzers.

Most porn sites are doomed.

When a moron with an IQ of 15 can download enough porn in a week end for a year without paying a dime, you know things are not looking good.

[lajos]

But it is still a question, how much money rests for a model. I guess it there are not many euros. I dont know how many shootings the normal girl does in one year, but if we say she does 3 DP, 4 anal scenes, 10 vaginal only and 20 lesbian. If we count 1000 E for the DP, 800 for the anal, 500 for the vaginal only and 200 for the lesbian, we have a little bit more than 10.000 Euros. But that is only the rate for the scenes. Maybe the agencies take something, and maybe some girl has a pimp getting anything, too. So that means, as a normal Porn actress you will never be a rich girl.

[fallon]

Yepp....but then comes the Point, when the Producers - who make all the money without doing anything - blame the Girls for doing Escorting, while they enjoy their Vacation in St. Tropez...

[robot]

this thread is like watching virgin boys discussing the life of hookers no clue and lots and lots of funny speculation

[dap-addict]

I dont know how many shootings the normal girl does in one year, but if we say she does 3 DP, 4 anal scenes, 10 vaginal only and 20 lesbian. If we count 1000 E for the DP, 800 for the anal, 500 for the vaginal only and 200 for the lesbian, we have a little bit more than 10.000 Euros.

47 scenes per year seem quite realistic if we take a girl past her porn bloom.
Spoke recently with one who just quitted and said while around 2005 she had 5 scenes per week it went down to just 1 per week in 2010.
But your rates are too high - at least for Budapest. Unless we are talking about one of the Eurobabe superstars.
Way out is doing more anal and less vaginal/lez only of course!

[IMaRetArd]

5 scenes per week??? seems like a lot to me. hmm makes me wonder, i mean more like a wish it would be to be able to follow a girls work (every scene, i eman 5 scenes per week? omg a lot of info) so u can try and get every scene she does. sounds like a dream for any fan/collector if i may say so.