Inside Russian Porn

[dooltizh]

Nevermind the details, but as a consequence of some recent visits to Russia I had the chance to talk with a few of the girls who work in the Russian amateur porn scene (St Petersburg). And no, I didn't have sex with any of them, not that I didn't want to. Here are the highlights:

First the good news - yes, some of these girls are actually university students, and in their early 20s.

The girls I chatted with had mostly left porn, although one said still does lesbian vids. They all left for combinations of the following: They didn't make the money they thought they would, they just got tired of having to have sex with different guys, they found out that the porn vids were available for free on Russian websites (after they had been told they were only going to be on Euro or Amer pay sites) and friends/parents/etc saw them, they were treated poorly during the shoots, and medical problems/diseases.

If you have seen the Russian "fitness" videos, the girls get about 50$ for those (includes free transportation to the lake). For the hardcore, they get about 150-200$ a video, but it depends on how "fresh" they are. The more vids they make, the less money they get paid. One girl told me she was offered 800$ for "one day" of video shooting, and when she arrived she found out she had to make 5 vids with 5 different guys. A nude photo shoot (pics only) earns about 50$. When I asked them if they got more money for anal, deep throat, threesomes, etc, they all said "no." But after making other vids, more and more hardcore vids were the ones they would be offered.

They all used "agents." These agents are contacted by a porn "studio" and then the girl is called if she fits what the studio wants or a studio may ask for a girl by name if they are familiar with her. But one girl complained her agent told her a studio wanted to make a vid with "soft" anal. She ended up in a ass-to-mouth video and, to quote: "I threw up four times and after 10 minutes I couldn't feel my ass anymore." So if your wondering what goes on during the edited parts of the deep throat vids, the girl is barfing.

Finally, diseases/medical probs. All of the girls said they had chlamydia. One girl said she had gotten gonorrhea. And all of the girls admitted that they didn't get tested for STDs before the shoots, they just paid a doctor to give them a paper saying they were clean or paid a friend to make one on the computer. Only after they had medical problems did they go to a doctor. One girl, who said she had made over 35 vids, said she ended up in the hospital for 6 weeks with a vaginal infection. Two girls got vaginal infections from rectal material (those vids where you see the guy put his cock in her ass.. then vagina... don't try that at home - and one said the guy told her after the shoot that he saw he had shit on his cock, but the director told him not to stop).

finally, how did they get started? the most common was they started out on adult video chat sites and someone asked them if they wanted to work less and make more money. Or an ad. One girl said she had a bf who knew guys who were making porn vids and she and her bf decided to do it together for the money, but to keep getting work they had to start making vids with different partners.

[Mr_White]

Interesting topic. Wonder why there are so many replies .....

[alexxx]

Wonder why there are so many replies .....

Likely because we already discussed these subjects in the past and then dangerous flames started...between female rights advocates, naughty pimps and dirty dreamers like me

Afaik everything above is real...if not better than what happens sometimes But it resumes the current situation: many gals want to make easy money and then are asked to be ready for hard sex. Working conditions are not the best in Russia but still the porn sets are better than some factories or the army.
On the other hand porn sets in Brno, Budapest or Paris are better and more comfortable....

[arnoldsty]

dooltizh, I started a thread about the rate for porn babes in differnt countries and seems Russia is pretty cheap compared to Czech and Hungary. $200 for b/g anal.

Are Russian girls who enter porn unaware of the general rates in other countries. And how can they be so careless about their health. If they are college students, I assume they know at least basic STD awareness. Are they so desperate for money?

Because Russia may be poor compared to Western Europe and even Czech and Hungary, but its not the third world.

Can you shed any light on the mentality of the typical Russian girl who does porn.

[claudia_rossi_fan_1]

Regarding health issues,How do you explain all these russian girls on Buda or French sets then ???

A guy like Chrisotph Clark demands a full blood test for all STD's and I am sure Rocco,
21 Sextury and all other serious studios in Buda demand the same thing, don't you think ???

As for hard sex, I saw an awful video where Mandy Dee barfed her bile, it was one of the most disgusting thing I ever saw.

The bile was all over the bed sheets.

And she continued the scene with bile all over her head and hair.

It was horrible ...

And it was a russian set I am afraid ...

[Grizzly]

From which dvd was that Mandy's scene?Was it done when she was younger?

That was a YoungThroats scene for the TeenCoreClub network.

[dooltizh]

I think that leaving Russia and going to Budapest, for example (where a girl can make 500$ a vid) is a big decision for a Russian girl - like going from amateur to pro - and most don't want to do it. They can also go to Paris and work in a hotel for a few weeks, where they can also make good money - but most don't do it. And some may also do occasional escorting in Russia (they can make about the same money as doing a porn vid but don't end up with a vid that's going to be around forever on the internet). A girl who lives at home with her parents can sneak off for a few hours to make a video, or escort occasionally, but how can she explain to her parents that she is going away for two or three weeks to Budapest or Madrid?

As far as the difference between working in Russia and Europe, I think it is huge. European studios are professional studios, who use their own doctors, own equipment, etc. and usually a long history of making vids. They have quality control and they are serious about health. Russia is full of amateurs who have been learning to make vids while they make them - just take a look at some of the awful videos they make with gorgeous girls. Sometimes the Russian vids are more porn comedies.

And also, I think after a girl makes a few vids and gets to know the business a bit she can become upset. She worries about the vids being on the internet, she doesn't like how little money she makes, she doesn't like they way she is treated, and so she leaves - maybe that explains why we see so many girls do a few vids and then disappear.

[dap-addict]

Very interesting thread, I havnt noticed before!
Looks like the answer to many questions is at the very beginning of the first post, though:

I had the chance to talk with a few of the girls who work in the Russian amateur porn scene (St Petersburg)

I recently posted a link to many of those genuine Russian videos. No interest in it, too. I also havnt seen them.
http://www.eurobabeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=16839&p=180262&hilit=Russian#p180262 (270 views in 2 months)
Looks like its only an internal Russian market. And all we watch shot in Russia is another ligue even without Budapest/Prague, US or Westen European based actors.

[oh_harle]

What you posted, dap-addict, is not SPB production. (I've already said that in this http://www.eurobabeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14998&p=186298&hilit=atlanta#p186298 thread).

And it is very lame, but funny stuff, actually, porn-comedy. With a good spirit of everyone having fun together. And yes, its distributed only in Russia, and only on dvd's. So this topic not about them, but rather about mean st.petersburg dickhead pimps, who monopolized the whole "russian porn" thing

P.S Even in this topic you can see how people enjoying when girl throwing a bile, and everybody loves bleeding asses in every second GG video, so what's the point? Russian porn just tries to satisfy people's needs, with less possible outlay

[UsainBolt]

Regarding health issues,How do you explain all these russian girls on Buda or French sets then ???

+1

As for the alleged surprise of finding their scenes available in Russia: It is, after all, a worldwide web. Russia isn't totalitarian enough to seal off itself against web content - unlike the Google Republic of China. You'd have to be quite naive to shoot internet porn and believe it won't be visible for your mates and family.

The low rates can be easily explained with market economics. St. Petersburg is the current hotspot for cheaply produced porn. Should the rates rise significantly, the circus will move on to another place where you can shoot for even lower rates, like Moldova or maybe after a possible regime change Belarus.

[dap-addict]

What you posted, dap-addict, is not SPB production. (I've already said that in this http://www.eurobabeforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=14998&p=186298&hilit=atlanta#p186298 thread).

Thanks, I wasnt aware the Klubnichka videos are produced in Moscow.
But I just wanted to point that not only this thread found no interest, but also my thread about genuine internal Russian (amarteur) porn. What finds a lot of interest, however, is professionally produced Russian porn for internationally operating websites or international directors shooting in Piter.

Btw, what about the old Russian SG videos? Is this the bad side of Piter porn?

[Sodomizeher]

The low rates can be easily explained with market economics. St. Petersburg is the current hotspot for cheaply produced porn. Should the rates rise significantly, the circus will move on to another place where you can shoot for even lower rates, like Moldova or maybe after a possible regime change Belarus.

Interestingly in the days of the Ottoman empire the most sought after women to be concubines were from Moldova, so that might not be a bad thing if that claim is true... the most gorgeous women in the world doing the most extreme circus acts!

[OneWhoKnows]

Well, as I have been in St. Petersburg twice and actually visited a couple of porn sets of different producers (see my blog for more) I think I'm able to comment on a few things:

...they just got tired of having to have sex with different guys, they found out that the porn vids were available for free on Russian websites (after they had been told they were only going to be on Euro or Amer pay sites)...

Yes, this happens all the time. The girls sign a model release which clearly says that the material may only be distributed outside of Russia/former USSR. I bought Russian content myself a few times and my license says the same, I am not allowed to use the material on a site located in Russia or in Russian language. However, who hasn't heard of filesharing sites these days is just from another planet. We all know the content is indeed only distributed on English speaking websites and western DVD's, but of course it gets stolen and illegally posted on Russian speaking filesharing sites. So like already mentioned here, the girls who believe the material won't find its way into Russia when it's available on the WORLD WIDE Web, are just dumb, sorry.

When I asked them if they got more money for anal, deep throat, threesomes, etc, they all said "no."

Not true for the shootings I saw. I knew the prices these guys paid for b/g and b/g anal back then and there definitely was a difference. Girls got significantly more money for doing anal. And I was there when a girl did a normal b/g scene one day and a b/g anal scene the other day. On both days I saw how the producers gave her the money and it was more for the anal shoot. Of course I can't say if there might be studios who don't pay more for anal.

So if your wondering what goes on during the edited parts of the deep throat vids, the girl is barfing.

Nope. It might happen from time to time that a girl has to throw up during deep throat shootings, but I saw about 5 with deep throating and in no case the models had to throw up. Not on nor off camera.

...they just paid a doctor to give them a paper saying they were clean or paid a friend to make one on the computer. Only after they had medical problems did they go to a doctor.

I know this is a problem in Russia because there are no industry standard medical centers like in the US for example. I know the producers I met are serious about tests, but of course if the models come up with fake tests or paid doctors to set up a fake one - how to blame the producers? I mean if a girl knows she's ill and shows up on a set with a fake test, that's not only her fault but very selfish and a threat towards the actors working with them. I know of several cases where girls showed up, obviously having chlamydia and still presented a "clean" test. Of course they were sent home without payment.

But I won't deny that there are unprofessional amateur studios who give a shit about tests in Piter, which is a shame. However, it's also a shame that models and actors give a shit about their own health and the health of their fellow talents, and agree to work without tests.

[Winston]

This isn't really related...but I thought that some people might get a kick out of the trailer for this new movie.

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[arnoldsty]

Didn't know Russia had a domestic only porn sector. Any other links or names of domestic producers?