Porn in Russia/Ukraine

[dap-addict]

There are at least 2-3 porn agencencies working from Piter also regularely mentioned her on EBI.
They dont have .ru in their adress, but it would be easy for the autorities to track them down.
That easy that I really doubt they would dare to do it illegaly.

[Mr_White]

With legal I mean that they pay tax like any other company, or that they can advertise in newspapers.
Probably the Russian authorities know about their existence, but they tolerate them.
But that doesn't mean that in Russia they are "normal" companies that can operate freely.

[dap-addict]

There was some discussion about tax paying in Russia a while ago here.
But I think you are right, Russian autorities tolerate most of them anyway...maybe for something in return.
Corruption can solve a lot in these countries and though legal grounds may not be clear and stable, it still means that all this talk about porn production being illegal in Russia and porn producers shooting there being actually with one foot in prison already are not based on reality.
Better would be completly legal and stable state of law situations as we have them in Budapest and Prague of course.


Btw, I`d like Pierre Woodman or Giorgio Grandi to answer these questions. They know much more!

[Juliana Grandi (Karmen)]

JULMODELS seems to be best Visa agency
=) hehe

now i can do visa for ucranian girls tooo =) yahoooo

i love my job
i know all holes in making visa procese =))
la la la la

[sinspector]

^^
and your girls know making holes after the visa process.. i'm very happy to hear that you can help us to get ucrainian girls now too. just great,

greetings,

sinspector.

[Bruno]

la la la la

[masterxxx]

About Ukraine (use Google translator):

Playboy magazine is porn...
http://korrespondent.net/kyiv/1180457-k ... e-zhurnaly

Art is porn...
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[dap-addict]

In the discussion fellowing a recent Interview with Russian producer and actor Sasha ( http://geometria.ru/blogs/culture/29553) all Russian talkers point out that all Sasha does is completely legal according to Russian laws. Sasha himself says it was just really easy for the autorities to find him IF there was anything wrong with his porn activities.

I think some European/US producers avoid Russia because the culture and language is too strange to them. Its a cultural, not a legal problem.
Or am I wrong, Mr. Woodman?


Btw, Sasha says he and his brother Timo started doing castings and shooting in Ukraine, too!

[Bruno]

Btw, Sasha says he and his brother Timo started doing castings and shooting in Ukraine, too!

In Russian porn, they are known as Timo Hardy and Oliver Strelly.
They look like twins, but I think one is four years older than the other.

What they say about the Russian law and porn movies, I heard a lot about it, but it is very complicated, simply because Russia is a very complicated country. In western countries if somebody is involved in crime, he will be brought to justice. The judge will look at the case, and there will be a fair judgement. In Russia, there is always money and power involved. If you have friends in powerful positions, or they are ready to accept money to change the verdict, you can't do anything about it as a foreigner. Corruption is a very big problem. That's the main reason why foreign companies prefer to keep away from the Russian and Ukrainian market. Also, a great part of the population is very conservative when it comes to sexuality. Homosexuality (and thus also lesbian sex) is considered objectionable to them. You can not organize a Gay Pride in Moscow, it would only lead to riots if it's ever approved at all!

So if you want to see hot Russian girls in porn movies, the best thing you can do is let the Russians film it themselves! They know their country, they know what situations to avoid, and which people are reliable and which ones not. So yes, the culture is a problem, and no, the language is not a problem. Russian sounds a lot like Czech and other Slavic languages, so this can't be a reason. I still have to read the interview, thanks for the link! Sasha is also a DJ, he played on the biggest dance festival in Ukraine, KaZantip. A lot of hot girls come there and dance, some even naked. It's like a Russian Woodstock. It's being held every year on the Crimea peninsula.

[Bruno]

I translated the interview and tried to filter out some bad translations, but got lazy in the end.
Here is the interview in bad English for who's interested.
If there are any Russians on the forum who can do better, please let us know.

ALEXANDER BEDENASHVILI: "Everybody knows my job"

In school, Alex wanted to do two things: play music as a DJ and star in porn. He quickly realized that life can only spend what they like, and began to move in two directions. Sasha grew up a happy man: in St. Petersburg is seen as one of those DJs who "plays a very cool svezhak," well, in the domestic porn industry he simply has no equal. Geometria.ru found out that you are coming from and why, and who still is Alexander Bedenashvili - to a large extent a DJ or a porn actor.



DJ STVO

I started because already since school I wanted to be a DJ. I wanted to do more and porno. When I saw in elementary school for the first time porn, I thought, fuck, I wanted to do porno. The year was hell of a prescription. What would then become a DJ, you had zamorochitsya specifically. No money is impossible. A desire has been the dream was. In the days of radio "Record", and began to learn. Myself. He had many friends in the club industry. Told everyone that I play, and then waited for the proposal: do not like to be imposed. The first club in which I became a resident, was "Decadence."
DJing - a hobby, I guess. I have no purpose to earn money from it. Although I earn, of course, for any work must be paid. But often play for free. To all friends often. Every month in Perm, for example, in the club "Brondeau."
I am pleased to play on vinyl, but in St. Petersburg just two shops where you can buy records. So I play, like most German DJs through the card with the PC. I have my own selection of music labels online beatport.com, he knows everything. I don’t get stuck in one style, I love variance, but I try to minimize the use of commerce.
On weekends, after parties, going to my house with friends. Today was the official opening of the club's Motel, and after we tusili by a man in ten, just recently had all gone. And in the past after-party held at my apartment on the legendary Tchaikovsky, 8. In one year, at Kazantip I was approached by a girl, she rented a video of a party, and asks: "Where are you from?" From Peter, I say. "You know Decadence?" It turns out that she was in the "decadence". "You know, perhaps, Oscar (Renkelya - red.)?" - She asks. Yeah, I know. And then she says, "Oh! So I was at your house on the afterparty ». And I do not remember, because sometimes there happened to 30 people and diamonds - I'm very sociable.



EROTICA

Everybody knows who I work with. I shoot erotic films. You can not say - porn: there's a difference. How to distinguish porn from erotica? The Ministry of Culture does not know where this line is. Tinto Brass movies - it's erotica or pornography? I shoot nude, tight. This is just a tough sensuality. Porn - it's bestiality, pedophilia, necrophilia.
Performed in all capacities: director, actor - I have my own studio, with photographers. Several studios, where he was, would never say in any case, the address is always changing. As a rule, take an apartment for rent, and let’s go. The hosts know what will happen there.
I shoot for myself, for my personal use. Yes, I do it professionally: I like the pretty picture. But I do not sell porn, so I have everything in order. I do not want from anybody to run, otherwise I would have it this way is not stated.

You go to Berlin with footage, you find customers - please ... In Europe, lots of companies that deal with the distribution. There it is legal. We have to go to the exhibition not with empty hands and say about me: I shoot porn, buy. If companies like it, they conclude a contract with you: take off a month so many commercials. Buy more material that filmed. Do not like it, do not buy anything - you go to x st.

If a young person wants to become an actor - you never know he too, since high school dreams about it, why not - wants to star in porn, feels that he can, then let him come to me. I can supervise, train and promote. Unfortunately, young people will quickly go out of the race. Many have tried. As a rule, all self overrated. It's not as easy as it sounds: spotlights, five film crew. Take it and you bi two heifers. The camera turned and walked away. No one stopped. The scene - half an hour.

All proceeds from the head, as you yourself set up. I have the equipment already, I'm shooting for nine years. On Ibiza I do five scenes a day. At one stage there, if well run, takes about an hour. But only if you do not get distracted.

Too many people think that we have monopolized this whole industry and no one else can do porno. Roughly speaking, all of the actors in Peter are just me and my brother. We shot 80 per cent of the material. But in the get-together there are still people who are also produce. And I'm doing for them, as an actor. Guys like me in their thirties.

Bob, Jack. Who is Bob Jack? Sergei says he's a porn director: produced a couple of movies, nothing more and takes only corporate party goes. Namutil some dudes from the Urals, threw them on the grandmother, shot some wild footage, and now no one can sell it. He lives by the fact that nzdit. He had Tanya Tanya - "the best porn actress" with the perfect vagina. I can list two movies with her participation, which he best porn actress? In fact, all said that she were a super porn star and sold expensive as a whore - everything. He is now actively selling its Sambuc. Find at least one film with Sambuco, at least someone saw a porn with her? Hundreds of chicks are removed and palyatsya ten days, "OpenID". There's no clip Sambuco. Bob Jack acts as a simple bully. I know him very well.

And by the way, silicone breasts have long been of interest to nobody, only natural tits are interesting.

When I was 18 years old, I read an ad in the newspaper "Chance" or "Hand in Hand." There is a job without the need of a degree, I went for a look out of curiosity. Most of the girls need to be 18. I found where the needs of young people are. Guess. Came to hear the proposal. Did test photos: not only face, but all together, and separately, and in the standing position. Said if customers like it - contact me. I got a call, I came starred. It was a little unusual, but start with small: just photos. Then for a long time for fun imitated, no one is fucked . Over time, established itself in some people, they call another, and so on. Always a demand for the guys that work well. Paid at all scenes - $ 25 for a scene.



PARENTS

My dad worked in the police, now retired, in the protection of somewhere in the Leningrad region. Mom didn’t work, sitting at home with the children, and Vika, my sister, my dear, in the initial class is teaching - class 4 of the orphanage. She took two infant girls and two boys infants. Like her children, she took care of them. Parents are happy with everything. My mother gave birth when she was 16 years old ...

Thawed my work is not as if I wanted. Dragged to his home in Gatchina (near airfield), Teen - 18 years old boy, but he looked very young - along it in some clothes and took off in every corner of the apartment, just experimenting. Accidentally found the cassette parents. There's also unclear who was shooting and that the apartment. They ate a little oh from the little boy in a dress that others cheat on the corners, but there was no conflict. I said that doing porno: work is work.

At that time I have left home, and even if they told me that it is in the xy, that's their business. Began acting before I left home, but not because of it. I do not remember what I was not happy in my life with my parents, but I realized that I needed something to do, do quickly and myself. I do not do it, no one will do: he took and left. 18 years I was.

About a year lived in the chair at a classmate. Filmed, but this money is not really enough. Gradually found more and more work. Moved into a terrible apartment "veterans", the first floor of block houses, mold in the bathroom, on top of mold polyethylene pasted - area was terrible. Three months I lived there. Then I moved to friends who rented an apartment for three people on the specific: one person moved out, needed a third. There it has been good.



"Yes, I'm in a porno shoot. So what? "

Met one American. He spun a good idea for me and my brother, who also was involved. The American guy normally poured money into production and we fully scored work week. 4 years we were all peasant organizing, he did not speak in Russian, no one understood. We rented flats for shooting, met the actors who were booked from Germany, Brazil, America and Canada. We have worked with very big btars: Brandon Iron (we paid him seven hundred dollars for a scene), Eric Evenhart, Joachim Kessef, Kid Jamaica. But Americans do not pay $ 25 and immediately - at $ 200 per scene. Plus, we found him girls for which he paid too.

- As a girl interested in? - Asks Bedenashvili his girlfriend.

- Talk to her - she is responsible.

- You like to Andrew (the agent who finds the girls) met? - Alexander develops the theme.

- Do not want to remember.

- Come on, tell me: you are a living example. How to interest a girl? Here you live without porn, no one touched ...

- In short, it usually happens like this: Agents are pretty girls, have Vkontakte (Russian social media), added to friends, write a large text in which everything is clear. You already know what you are going. Come and hang out. They know how to talk to girls, to entice.

- Agents again brought me, - exclaims Bedenashvili. - I am very interested in what Andrew rubs them, he hypnotizes them straight, they were all ready: once in the ass and whatever.

- Writes about money.

- It's OK for the money: Heifer two hundred thousand rubles per month - where to work. And this is not the limit.

- He says the amount you can earn in a month, and it starts to interest you. Are you going to be removed.

- You think: two hundred thousand! In the month! All in all, not bad.

- Delayed.

- Delayed so that as soon as you got money first, you have no choice. You're ours. Now you're thinking I need to earn something. But as soon as you start to earn it, do not stop. You came and immediately op: once a day to 20-ke. Spent the day pobuhala, hang out on # balas - in general, with normal youngsters - all in a friendly company, all la-la-la, was removed, all the fun and twenty on hand. Started.

Parents lit, friends - and FSUs # d to friends and parents: me 200 000 a month pay. In Status: "Yeah, I'm doing porn. And what? "

There are different stories. I am for a nine-year career retake several thousand girls. At a time when you lit all together, VKontakte and sent to parents video with your participation, there comes a point: you either score, at all, or tie. Most of the clog.

If the heifer smart, it will build a good strategy and be able to work long and dull if you just nominal bl # dv, it will drive everyone on time and everything - no one else will take. Now competition is so great that customers always need new meat.

If you are well e .... and without any problems ... Well, look good - you will take a long time: no problems for two years. In two years you can earn so much ... And something else to do. I do not know what they do on who does what. Povyhodili married for many. One married ment and left for Murmansk. Some go to the escort and ride on Europe: they have the status of a porn star.

- One fan vyzvonil of Europe - is wedged into the conversation his brother Alexander, Timur, - he found her on the sets and made the offer, she agreed.

- Calf, which is removed in porn, we all want it all # others chat, but it is only yours now. Let everyone else look and envy - it is cool - continues Bedenashvili. - In Europe, this is a common mentality.

Worked here, gain experience, you are no one takes - you can go to Europe, there still has not been removed. And there they like to shoot many times. Pay a bit more than here, but removed less.

This is a way of life. Every day some new, fascinating story. I and Timur in three or four days ahead painted. Almost working seven days a week. The schedule is very irregular, sometimes even lunch time, no. Ride around town from studio to studio.

The schedule is not a week: on Monday, working with the Italians arrived - we have to work, on Tuesday morning - again with the Italians, in the evening shoot for myself, on Wednesday in a car leaving the company on tour in Perm, on Friday we Perm - just hang out, in Saturday - fun to play, hold an audition and go back.

We hold auditions all over Russia and Ukraine as well. Everybody wants money, the province wants more. Familiar with any chick - they already know who I am - she looks at you, "St. Petersburg is my favorite city, I dream to go to Peter." Everything! Suggest to her baby, I'll pay the ticket arrives, hang out, put in your money - manicure, pedicure. Make of you a star, so many get it. Suggest any way. Straight from the party ready to go, throw it all: parents, family, husband or young person - for. Rushed.

In life I very blivy. You have no idea how I can be messy. Give me the will, I'm right here you can Bat. Interest in sex, more and more flares. Well I Khachik (Russian mom, dad and Georgians). Otherwise, how can I work out five scenes in a row?

Lead a very unhealthy lifestyle. But I have my tricks: proper nutrition and vitamins. Try not to eat meat: chicken and seafood only. Animals tortured before he died - I do not mind anyone - took it into his head that a person who eats meat is more susceptible to depressions.

With a condom content falls to 50%, so we do not use them. But as a rule, all the work with references. Every two weeks doing all the tests. By the way, I introduced such a procedure. First, general lawlessness prevailed complete. Now, if there is no testing, we're not working. Personally for me the nurse arrives at the house, taking tests, and the next day throws off the results on the e-mail. Problems sometimes, but nothing serious. All treated with antibiotics in three steps. For prevention is a means of contraception: all hloroksidiny and others. It is advisable to look after themselves. I'm not afraid of anything ill, I have good immunity.

On this subject, do not bother with any nonsense and you will have happiness. Man sets himself, makes installation and live in this facility. If you start to think about every problem - attracts negative energy. Man kills himself. Personally, I eat energy when playing music - is a big energy boost.

I believe in the materialization of thought. I think only about what I need. All I was thinking about since childhood - all came to pass. I could be anyone: no actor, and even more so a DJ while living in Leningrad Oblast (Gatchina) and not having anything. The main thing - think of a good and trusted. And if something happens, then it must happen. And I fear death, respectively, do not torture.

Everyone can become what he wants. Tend all in your hands. Take it, do so, FSUs on the circumstances. If not, then none of your - Get others.



P.S.

I live outside the system, and I do FSUs, how are you, my playstation is connected to the TV. I already know what I need.

I do not change. In short, if you meet me, then I must accept this, it is. I do not rule out the option "marriage, children." I know a million porno actors who have wives and children. Go to the studios, shot all over Europe, then return home with money. Excellent life. For them it's work. Throughout the civilized world porno actors - is a separate profession. If my children want - pzhalsta.

"I also do not change - responsive Bedenashvili girlfriend. - Sasha's work - this is the case throughout his life, how can I deny? "

Alexander Chuyev, St. Petersburg

[gapelover]

One actor said to me 'If you come to Russia you have to fuck' ! But well most girls need much money.

[Engineer]

Excellent interview

Thanks for the translation Bruno

[dap-addict]

One actor said to me 'If you come to Russia you have to fuck' ! But well most girls need much money.

Still, its so much cheaper than in Budapest!
Russian prices could actually lead to the democratization of porn. Everybody can afford to shoot it, the question is if he can sell it afterwards.