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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby almagr on Thu Jun 23, 2016 3:27 pm

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But anyone can found some information about ***, what he is doing in Ukraine, because if he was a real legal businessman we can found something, and do not tell me this is Ukraine, this is not like in western Europe or America, this is not true, if he is legit we find something but for me nothing, my Russian is so so, i can miss somethings. And from my experience legit businessman in Ukraine like the flash so, for me it is strange???

Difficult to find,his name is very common and I don't speak ucranian.
http://rus.delfi.ee/daily/estonia/saar- ... d=71008939
Can be him. Well known criminal in Estonia,probably,has estonian passport because of his wife Darya Saar. No idea.
Any way ,this name also apears related to report articles in estonian language.
http://arhiv.bb.lv/index.php?a=5921&i=134&p=1&s=8
*** was involved in prostitution,illegal weapons,documents etc. If it's the same ***,of course.
http://www.stena.ee/blog/oldnarva/krimi ... y%E2%80%9D

I don't think he is Estonian ***. Estonian is older. There is a bad quality picture of *** in this article http://www.elmundo.es/cronica/2016/06/2 ... b4640.html
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:02 pm

Thanx! It was my fault. Just saw video from spanish media,our *** is younger
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1 ... 2F***&_rdr
Does anyone has Facebook? I don't have it,so I couldn't see this profile. But small photo looks very similar of a guy on video
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby chubakka on Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:20 pm

Lets make it simple :

Any porn producer is getting into the situation is Torbe will be judged guilty :(
Lets analyse the RAPE accusation.

Anything is happening in a shooting, being part of sexual act without the consent of the model is considered by law as rape.
Normally models should discuss, and agree on every moment of the shooting, the sexual act before, and even like this, in case they feel not want do something, change their mind, and say NO, should be free to NOT doing it.
Anything comes more, and looks like be pushing, all psychological extortion, etc. is concerned to the act of rape.
Models should sign model releases BEFORE they start the scene, NOT when they finish, and they get paid, as it`s happen almost every time, at every shooting they do.
Models should sign model releases in their own mother language, not only in english, or with the help of some unofficial translators ( taking part of the production team ).
If once the model say NO for anything they wish to do with her during sex, should be immediately stopped, and let model go home, all content, and signed model release be kept as evidence, but never become public.Not even talk public about...
When it come the time to go to the court, be sure in these kind of case, there will be people working for organisation of women rights.And they will fight, and will ask some money for their organisation. Mostly when a case is getting big, has a media interrest.
How do you think, any production would realise the hard scenes of these days requirements, without taking the risk to be accused of rape ?
Today requirements are to SEDUCE AND FUCK EVERY DAY A NEW INNOCENT< JUST 18 GIRL IN FRONT OF THE CAMERA THE MOST SPECTACULAR< AND HARDEST WAY< IF POSSIBLE BY AS MANY BAD GUYS YOU FIND.
You talk about agents, and pimps. NO DIFFERENCE today. The agent has to be a pimp,because production requires to deliver the model prepared for anything will happen to her, to accept she will be paid the way the producer will decide at the end, same time if the agent want to take care, and be on the shooting as psychological support for the model, just sitting in the other room, all production team will take him as a pimp. But when there is a problem, and the model refuse to do something, the agent has to jump, and solve the problem.
Being paid? For what in the era, when we can contact all models via community sites ? We need only know their names, what is verry easy to find out after they already did some modelling, meet some industry people.
Agent, or pimp is needed only as help for seducing, convincing part of the job.
Do you really believe that french count, I dont want to name here, is getting the girls to fuck them in the ass without anyone`s help ? It is a team work behind, he has beautiful models around (make up artist never doing makeup, only once a year :) , his girlfriend, etc. reliable looking assistant guy, etc) they all together doing a SEDUCTION WORK for him. Its a complete strategy behind, wih nice lunch in good restaurant, coffe, and cakes paid to models will attend the casting.
When model will want run away, finding out she come to get fucked in the ass by that count, of course situation get changed.
Your agent sent you here is a count, he only want money and thus he didnt told you what will happen to you, its not my fault.But even if you got naked, and let me touch you, make you look stupid in front of my camera, you must accept I fuck you in the ass, TO BE PAID, for all you did until now. If you run away, I am enough powerful, I have enough influence in this business, to make you look stupid, and you can forgot the modelling career. Go down in the lobby, talk to the people are her for me, take a coffee, and clean up your mind. I dont have time to lose, I already lost a lot talking to you, I paid this hotel room to meet you, my travel, etc.Blah blah blah...
Isnt this a bit of psychological extortion ?
How many girls were booked in this world for doing porn scene with only 2-3 guys, and ended up fucked by 6 or more ? So when Woodman is promoting himself as being the one whom fuck the girls without their advanced consent for what they do, whe doing DP, or DAP, without the model know, without the model can say NO, having the mouth full of dicks, 2-3 boys on her being with limited movement, he is commiting RAPE. And his boys as well...Ok, but there is no problem until he can keep the way, that no one girl complain. Problems start when one will start complain, and second will do the same, after all they will open their mouth.Usually he has the skills to solve these kind of problems with his money, and his people around, are accepting to do the bad part of his work.

So just getting back to TORBE, for me this looks a bit FUCKED UP STORY, sad for him, but going this much extreme for being succesful, and making money doesnt look will end up in a good way :(
Girls coming into this business, they come for making easy money, they do things would never do in their life just because of they really need to do it, and will never accept to say in public they did it because they love it. And when they become so much dependents of easy money, addicted to this life, they will easy accept to even lie, be false witness. When getting in this kind of trouble, women rights organization is there to advice them, and there is a turn back. The man get fucked in the ass without his consent...and as Woodman say many times, the life has the biggest dick, and fucks you in the ass the most painful possible. This guy he knows something about, even if he doesnt really care.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby almagr on Thu Jun 23, 2016 5:23 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:Thanx! It was my fault. Just saw video from spanish media,our *** is younger
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1 ... *-***&_rdr
Does anyone has Facebook? I don't have it,so I couldn't see this profile. But small photo looks very similar of a guy on video

I found this guy in VK. Yes he is very similar, but not him. Our *** is yonger than Estonian, but older this guy. He is online at his VK page. But our *** can't do that, he's in prison. I think he haven't any accounts in social media.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby krull on Thu Jun 23, 2016 6:54 pm

The rape charges are from TP1 (the 17 year old), 2 and 3, they are not connected with the Ukrainian issue. The latter are two ex-Torbe girls wanting to fuck him over and get their videos removed. TP1 is a minor so the issue is sensitive but it comes down to her using a fake ID to shoot porn and get money (he met her in a bar where she was drinking) and because he filmed scenes with her including a bukkake that were on file, that's why he's accused of making child pornography.

I have this image of *** I saved a while ago, it's part of a collage of smaller pictures from a video. I'm not sure if it helps in making an identification though as it's pretty low res:

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This is Mila btw:

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I am thinking it might be an idea to contact Daniela Kaos (Torbe's friend who is control of his facebook and has contact with him in prison) to use some of our information for Torbe's defence (in the Ukrainian charges) but I don't use any social media so I can't do it... Also maybe we can pass on some of the information here to journalists too? I don't mean the thread itself, just the photos, screens, videos etc.

olga cabaeva wrote:Or this Hungarian girl eating shit..
http://www.eurobabeforum.com/viewtopic. ... 30#p297957


UGHHH... I don't understand any of that.. why.. just.. why? :(
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:57 pm

Chubakka! Dunia Montenegro stopped to work with extrem Productions because of this. She had once problem with BDSM company in Madrid.
About model releases....It will be difficult to put them on girls native language,because in this case,many producers couldn't understand them. To make valid contract both sides must know what is written on the papers. I remember,21 sexury did Interview with hungarian girls who don't speak english on hungarian language,at least Zoli did it,explaining what it will be ,asking if a girl agrees or desegrees with something.But not every model speaks hungarian or english.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:11 pm

krull wrote:
I am thinking it might be an idea to contact Daniela Kaos (Torbe's friend who is control of his facebook and has contact with him in prison) to use some of our information for Torbe's defence (in the Ukrainian charges) but I don't use any social media so I can't do it... Also maybe we can pass on some of the information here to journalists too? I don't mean the thread itself, just the photos, screens, videos etc.

olga cabaeva wrote:Or this Hungarian girl eating shit..
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=21776&start=30#p297957


UGHHH... I don't understand any of that.. why.. just.. why? :(

Good idea! To contact Daniela and journalists. Maybe they need to know another side of the story?

viewtopic.php?f=19&t=15202&start=45#p339258
Tina Kay also was on lezpoo... Probably,she like chocolate or money...this kind of websites must pay well for eating caca.

Prolapsedqueen....Yani or Angel Daikiri...She did gay movie as well. Somewhere she fucked a guy in the ass.
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=17754&start=45#p233838
Any way,some girls shoot for prolapsed websites... Money,i think...
It's difficult to say that is wrong or right in porn....But I think, to eat shit must be the heaviest.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby chubakka on Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:29 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:Chubakka! Dunia Montenegro stopped to work with extrem Productions because of this. She had once problem with BDSM company in Madrid.
About model releases....It will be difficult to put them on girls native language,because in this case,many producers couldn't understand them. To make valid contract both sides must know what is written on the papers. I remember,21 sexury did Interview with hungarian girls who don't speak english on hungarian language,at least Zoli did it,explaining what it will be ,asking if a girl agrees or desegrees with something.But not every model speaks hungarian or english.


Why would be difficult to make samples in different languages to your own model release ? Producer knows what is written on its model release, only models have to sign a piece of paper they must believe what translator tell them. If translator is someone models trust, and tells them bullshit like you sign that nobody forced you to do this interview, you are not under drugs, and that`s all, and forgot to tell them they sign for selling the rights of the interview they did, can be used, and published by the producer as he wish, where he wish, and whenever he will wish in the future, 9 from 10 girls will refuse to sign when goin in a Woodman casting. All they think the interview is made because the busy producer will watch these interviews later to decide which model will be used for "Woodman Nudes " Playboy style shootings, and all kind of bullshit lies...I am talking about fresh new girls, not already doing porn performers...
When models are caught on the net with their casting, most of them will have accept they become "black sheep" so better they get the way to do porn, because this stamp will remain on their forehead for a while. Like a tattoo WHORE. You know, if you tell too many times to someone is bad, soon he will really become bad...
Answer is simple why they dont do model releases english-ucrainian, english -czech, etc. : not to complicate too much things, have the opportunity to tell them later, you signed for it, agreed on it dont complain because its you whom will look stupid after all. The cost of 50 Euro would not be so big to ask an official translator to be done, and be a company doing everything to respect the people they employ...
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Fri Jun 24, 2016 1:46 am

Btw,Dunia,yes,tells to girls that you will be everywhere,even after 20 years. Many girls reject to shoot porn after that.Actually she does not like brand new girls,better if they shoot already with somebody.Also she clear explains how much in reality people (performers) earn in porn. Many new girls think they will be milioners with it. I think,Dunia does in correct way.
The problem with all russian or ucranian managers,they lies to girls that they will not be seen anywhere,exept Europe or America or what ever.Strange,some girls really believes in it.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby chubakka on Fri Jun 24, 2016 11:58 am

olga cabaeva wrote:Btw,Dunia,yes,tells to girls that you will be everywhere,even after 20 years. Many girls reject to shoot porn after that.Actually she does not like brand new girls,better if they shoot already with somebody.Also she clear explains how much in reality people (performers) earn in porn. Many new girls think they will be milioners with it. I think,Dunia does in correct way.
The problem with all russian or ucranian managers,they lies to girls that they will not be seen anywhere,exept Europe or America or what ever.Strange,some girls really believes in it.


olga cabaeva wrote:Btw,Dunia,yes,tells to girls that you will be everywhere,even after 20 years. Many girls reject to shoot porn after that.Actually she does not like brand new girls,better if they shoot already with somebody.Also she clear explains how much in reality people (performers) earn in porn. Many new girls think they will be milioners with it. I think,Dunia does in correct way.
The problem with all russian or ucranian managers,they lies to girls that they will not be seen anywhere,exept Europe or America or what ever.Strange,some girls really believes in it.

Of course there is difference between the girls recruited by Dunia, girls recruited by russian, or ucrainian pimps ( I say pimps only because there cant be nameg adult agents, as being illegal to work in porn). There is difference between girls already taking a decision to jump into porn before to meet an agent, just because they are already smelling they can easy become known, and make some money from their status, or girls coming from poor family from countries where porn is banned, and they dont know much about internet world. I guess all these russian, ucrainian beauties they start porn, they did not grow up with an IPhone into their hands. They dream about a better life, are strong in their decision, have a special fortitude, and the opportunity to earn a better life doing things their family will find out, only when they become succesful and already can help those from home with their money. This is the ideea, and this makes easy to get them into the biz. Their pimps send them to Julmodels, whom give them a turist visa, model house, living together with already long time working models, having fun in the best clubs with free drinks, etc. can make them happy. They start in easy way doing some works already prepared, and step by step getting more and more harder works.After 5-6 scenes they`ve did, they still dont have an IPhone, because they worked to pay their debts for gaining this life. So they dont even know they are already starlets on the internet, just feeling happy. After 10-15 works (1-2 months spent in Hungary), they will visit Woodman whom will make a casting with them looking like it`s their first porn experience. Holding a maybe half, or 1 year old magazine into their hands in front of the camera, as a fake evidence, and from there they start have some troubles in their life. Russian people watching WCX website, put them on VK, and start talk about them in their country. But already theyve tasted the good life, and want to rest, come back a.s.a.p. , dont want to be anymore in their own country where they can get only problems because of porn they do.I dont criticize the way Julian she`s doing, it@S the best way as an agent can operate. Before anyone will think this is an attack by me. No, I have all my respect how she does with these girls, taking care of them. But let@s fix she is in the easiest position being russian agent in Budapest.Even Woodman has to accept the rules of Juliana, because he cannot touch her, cannot play games with her, cannot exercise his influence :) I`m sure he`s only waiting for the moment to take the control, because his mixed spider&snake blood require this.
Growing up in Hungary the new generation meet the porn on the streets already when being children. We are a small country and because our porn past, and THANK YOU WOODMAN, almost all these days children they have someone in the family, or a classmate, neighbor whom has someone he knows did porn before. Mostly cuz this french asshole has a 10-15 years before recorded one time porngirl for every day to be published on the net. I just had a great model working for our studio, with her mother was doing porn 20 years ago. The only reason why she let the girl work for me, was because she know, I would be the last one today let her daughter meet Woodman.Anyway Im sure he will meet soon some strong girl grow up with the hate for him, will take the pornstar name Karma :)
About how spanish girls get into the business I dont really know much, but I have the feeling they are not so innocent when meeting porn...again an easy way for agents.
What I know today all hungarian girls get into porn, they soon end up in escort, which is not good :( Or they do porn only to become fast known, and get clients, or they soon realise their pornstar image is worst than an escort girl image, or they dont have enough work in porn, and their agent make them other connections, or they broke up with family, and friends and when having nothing more to lose, they try this way...:(

BTW. thank you Olga asking the policeman-moderator of the forum not to ban me. He will do it, exactly because of the reason you asked him not doing it. I know too much, and I speak freely. But you know that freedom of speech isnt something exist when speaking about Woodman...No worry, because I can be back every moment I wish with new registration under new name, but everyone can recognise who`s behind when speaking as I do :)
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:00 pm

You are wellcome!
Spain is quiet different in this way,thats why I think Torbe's case is fabrickated. I can believe russian/ucranian could be abused but not spanish ones. If you don't like PL just don't work for it. It's like Torbe offered me bukkake or webcamming one day. I told No,I am not interested. So,he didn't ask me again. When I read testimonies of Isabelle,Penelopa Crunch and Penelope Cum that they were forced and cheated ... but they worked for Nacho more then one time....Sorry,Spain is not Dubai or Bahrain. Nobody closed them. If someone cheated you it's more logical not to work with him or her again. Or if you don't agree with fee,just don't acept it. Easy.
About Budapest. Model houses suck. Eva Karera lived in rumanian house of Latzi,she told very "nice" stories about that happend there. Also Leyla Black and Amarna. It looks like ripping off. But,maybe they are ok for russian/ucranian Ladies who have never seen anything good in their lives.
Pimps (yes,they are) lie about distribution of material or rates. On russian resurces you can see several comments the girls don't know it would be everywhere and some of them were promised to be better paid.
Julmodels looks for me like all corrupted "made in USSR".They perfectly knew there they took the girls and how it will be after.
Btw,if Woodman is a such bad guy why did you send him girls so many years? And why other do it?
I don't know if hungarian agencies are legal or not. I worked with you,Brillbabes and Sandy. But I also worked with Dunia and british Walpole Group,yes,they have licence+ opened website. So,thats why ,for example,its important for Dunia to be clear with everything.One mistake and she can loose her licence. I remember when one of her model was found dead,so model 's parents asked her to remove all videos from her beloved daughter. So,Dunia put in her web,that she is not a company or producers and she couldn't do anything in this case explaining to every performer that after shoot your video will be everywhere and forever.Also in Spain,if you want,you can contact any director directly without any agent(in UK the same). Is it possible to do in Budapest? I don't think so.
About escort. It's bring more money then shoots . And directors all time need new faces.Almost nobody makes porn carera now,exept probably girls like Nekane,Stella Cox,Ella Huges,Apolonia and maybe couple more. Directors or/and users started to be very quickly tired from old models ,they need new ones every week. Probably,thats why julmodels (or guys like Latzi)exist,they are product of our industry.That's no point to blame girls for doing escort,we all need to pay our bills. Yes,pornstar escorts brings more money then regular escort,but also heavy clients,because if they book porn star they want to have pornstar's experience.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby chubakka on Fri Jun 24, 2016 2:47 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:You are wellcome!
Spain is quiet different in this way,thats why I think Torbe's case is fabrickated. I can believe russian/ucranian could be abused but not spanish ones. If you don't like PL just don't work for it. It's like Torbe offered me bukkake or webcamming one day. I told No,I am not interested. So,he didn't ask me again. When I read testimonies of Isabelle,Penelopa Crunch and Penelope Cum that they were forced and cheated ... but they worked for Nacho more then one time....Sorry,Spain is not Dubai or Bahrain. Nobody closed them. If someone cheated you it's more logical not to work with him or her again. Or if you don't agree with fee,just don't acept it. Easy.
About Budapest. Model houses suck. Eva Karera lived in rumanian house of Latzi,she told very "nice" stories about that happend there. Also Leyla Black and Amarna. It looks like ripping off. But,maybe they are ok for russian/ucranian Ladies who have never seen anything good in their lives.
Pimps (yes,they are) lie about distribution of material or rates. On russian resurces you can see several comments the girls don't know it would be everywhere and some of them were promised to be better paid.
Julmodels looks for me like all corrupted "made in USSR".They perfectly knew there they took the girls and how it will be after.
Btw,if Woodman is a such bad guy why did you send him girls so many years? And why other do it?
I don't know if hungarian agencies are legal or not. I worked with you,Brillbabes and Sandy. But I also worked with Dunia and british Walpole Group,yes,they have licence+ opened website. So,thats why ,for example,its important for Dunia to be clear with everything.One mistake and she can loose her licence. I remember when one of her model was found dead,so model 's parents asked her to remove all videos from her beloved daughter. So,Dunia put in her web,that she is not a company or producers and she couldn't do anything in this case explaining to every performer that after shoot your video will be everywhere and forever.Also in Spain,if you want,you can contact any director directly without any agent(in UK the same). Is it possible to do in Budapest? I don't think so.
About escort. It's bring more money then shoots . And directors all time need new faces.Almost nobody makes porn carera now,exept probably girls like Nekane,Stella Cox,Ella Huges,Apolonia and maybe couple more. Directors or/and users started to be very quickly tired from old models ,they need new ones every week. Probably,thats why julmodels (or guys like Latzi)exist,they are product of our industry.That's no point to blame girls for doing escort,we all need to pay our bills. Yes,pornstar escorts brings more money then regular escort,but also heavy clients,because if they book porn star they want to have pornstar's experience.


Well the answer for your question is here on EBI Forum on many topics. The only problem why people cannot see it`s exactly because of my ban. Paroxysma is taking care that the truth about Woodman not to be seen :) But I`ll repeat it shortly way :
Woodman was not as he is today. The good old times, he was really testing the girls, and concentrate on help them be able to do this job. He prepared the girls before the anal part of the scene was a good thing for newcomers. Later when come the era of GONZO, no more sense for anal preparation, but being a sex (ass)addict he didn't worked anymore with girls he did not fucked them in the ass. That time girls started to complain, because this was obvious it is only a MUST for his own pleasuer. That time I was lets say enough powerful, like today is Julmodels, taking care of my models, and looking for what is the best for them. So he started not to get all my girls, and started the conflict. He moved for almost 3 years and worked in Prague, never come in Budapest for 3 years, He got some of my girls, but they were drived by me in Prague for casting. This is how he meet LEANNA SWEET, which girl soon become the gf of an escort agent from Hungary, and was broke the deals with PRIVATE, which company wanted her that time for contract. When people find out Leanna is escorting in Paris, started to talk about her on the old EBI Forum-Eurobabetalk.com, that she can be fucked into the ass in Paris Hotel for only 500 Euro. That time she was EXCLUSIVE FOR ANAL FOR WOODMAN, whom everybody know how fucking jealous can be if an exclusive girl of him destroy all his lies about that girl.... So he called me from Paris, asked me if its me whom sent her to do escort ? I told him the truth, I didnt even know about she is in Paris. So he started to organize the BIG REVENGE, and sent someone giving him 500 Euro with the serial nr. registered to pay the model. From the Hotel the guy goes immediately at the police station to make a POLICE REPORT against LEANNA SWEET, that she was stole the money from his pocket when being in the bathroom. The police interrogated Leanna, find out for who she is working in Paris, the information was given to Pierr whom continued to help the police. But he made all the way to put me in the shit. Manipulated with his lies people around of me, turn people against me, and sent people get in touch with me were already under the radar of the police. It was enough to the French police to find with the help of Woodman only 2 girls telling them they heard about me i am involved, girls I never met in my life, was enough to have the phone conversation of the boss of this escort organization talking to me about casting for Playboy in Budapest (NOT FOR ESCORT), and to convince LEDA PARISH to accuse me. She was the only one accusing me that I sent her for escort, and the only one was 3 times telling things different way at the court, even telling to the judge she lied before, because she was angry on me.....after all these, I was condamned guilty. Being 4 months arrested in France, my agency got bankrupt. Models were going to Brillbabes, and Sandys, clients as well. Pierre was taking care even of my girlfriend from that time Juliette Shyne, turning her against me, and sending her to do ESCORT at his friends from DUBAI, exactly the days she had to meet my expansive lawyer coming from Paris to get an official paper would let me come out from prison....When I come out after 4 months, Woodman apologised to me not helping me in any way, and promised me that he will help me solve this problem, and to get back. It took me almost 3 years to find out that it was HIM behind all this story, and the help of him it was only TO KEEP ME CLOSE, AND GET ALL INFOS REGARDING MY COURT CASE, TO CAN PUSH ME MORE DOWN....so when I finished with this Story, and the court judged me, I told into his face, that I`ll fight all my life to show people who is the real Woodman, and I hope Karma will give him back...I wish him only 4 month to be in prison for anything, not to communicate, in a foreign country, to can help him same as he did to me....

Why others they do it ? Because others are AMAZED by his CHARME :) or because he is still one who pays the best....
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby stingray_rd on Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:33 pm

Why is this thread used to put rubbish over PW?
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Fri Jun 24, 2016 4:49 pm

stingray_rd wrote:Why is this thread used to put rubbish over PW?

It was me who asked Ricardo why if Woodman was so bad he sent girls to him? PW has his story about Ricardo,Ricardo wrote another one.
But,yes,you are right the topic is about Torbe and all around this mess with girls ,agencies etc...
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby chubakka on Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:02 pm

One more thing connected to the question if French police, and court is corrupted, or not ? I let you find out....

just before to be in the situation to meet the new investigating judge whom had to decide if I can come back to my country in house arrest, or not they asked me to sign a contract they will make a documentary about this case for the EU Community will be shown in police training. I asked, if this is for sure with this aim, because I know they have a documentary serial on TV TF5 Channel, isnt their intention to be shown there ? Because I dont really wish to be known this way....they told me, no, for sure will be with educational purpose. My lawyer told me, I should accept, because this will be a good point for me in front of the court. I accepted with the condotion, not to go in TV, and to get the full version before it is shown in public. Before the quadratic court judgment all the documentary goes in TV in France :shock: So, I didnt was judged, before the final basic principle goes around the world that I will be imprisoned....Pierre Woodman immediately put it online in forums, and spread around I have to be in prison. Nice friend I had, what you think about ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNBSgQnbs0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUaDChbhnPg
Now I dont care, already everybody knows the version made by Woodman, and everybody thinks I`m hiding myself from the police is looking for me. Ok. Just believe all what he lies, and you all connected to him will see 1 day, what a great guy he is.
Here you have again the documentary. Yes, it is in french, but you are some you understand, and you know this guy is the one whom leaved his country, and moved in Hungary, not to have problems in his own place. Not me. I am living my life free in my country, without to hide myself.
Second important moment can make you think about getting in trouble in France :
Usually when you are accused, you should know why, who they accuse you, and what they told about you, whe going to defend yourself at the court. No in France, or maybe just in my case, I did not get informations, only step by step in court proceedings I got new informations when judges interogated me. So you cannot prepare your defense, you cannot tell your lawyer to bring evidences, because they dont let you have this opportunity.
All my agency contracts were legal in my own country, all official papers could serve for my defense, were rejected by the court, as being not official in France...even if I paid thones of money to be officially translated, and with official stamp in France.
But the biggest problem it was, I could not know what really happened, only at the end, to find out the bigges ENEMY is in my HOUSE, it is my "friend" whom really want to help me get out from the shit. HAHAHA, guess who was that friend of mine, whom used all situations in his life to become famous using others from around ?
I remember when I organized the first erotic festival in ex Yugoslavian countries in Belgrade 2005, everybody was scared to come in that country after the war. But I did it. Hot Video asked me to give them material about, and Pierre said he will do it, he can get some money for it. I would gave it for free, only to get my agency promoted that time. All TV Channels from Serbia,Croatia, Macedonia, Bosnia, etc, they asked ME for interview, and I introduced them Woodman, as being more important guy can talk about porn, and being the one whom started my career. I didnt wanted be famous, only be in this biz, and take care of my business, and my models to have a good life. This fuckin prig, he even didnt gave me the Hot Video magazine where the reportage was in front cover, just to dont see how he lied, that was him behind all this organisation....I get it half year later from GFRomagnoli, and faced his lies...
So I think if you wish to haqve your answer about how correct is the FRENCH POLICE, if it is corrupted or not, JUST FIND OUT WHO IS WOODMAN. He is the IMAGE of the FRENCH POLICE, probably thus why they are in so good inseparable connection....
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