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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby bigload on Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:22 pm

Kefka wrote:@bluman

alright, I'll entertain your request. I'll speak of the financial details one can presume to assume.

so the actress comes free, thus we should produce a scene/ or more with her?

Firstly, the actress although usually paid isn't the greatest cost to a production, the PRODUCTION is the greatest cost as I will explain to you further below.

+booking of the stay and travel tickets for non local actresses as well as +wardrobe (clothes)actress can buy with a given budget.

+bukkakeros compensation
+director compensation
+production and production assistance
+fluffers
+post-production editing and marketing costs

these things constitute 80-85% of the "Direct cost" .

then come the indirect costs:
+membership gain/loss
+membership retention (big factor in making production decision)

now let's assume a production cost of 10k euros (given all the above just as a hypothetical scenario),

PB shoots Nikki hill [amature slav, winning formula], they gain +50members in subs, they can build on this and market it for the future so there is "residuals" from that production.

now assume PB shoots Missbiggokkunswallows [untested milf formula] production goes great, she comes free , but direct costs are about 8k euros, so you would assume NICE , PB saved 2k there that's great! we are off to a good start, but then it it does not materialize into increased subs or membership retention, hell there is even the possibility of membership loss, so you tell me? bottom line is that a + or a - for PB?

"But kefka she loves to swallow, not like those fake bitches"

ya so? what do I care if the actress likes to swallow or not? it's her job to do so. you are contractually obligated to do so or you don't get paid, which opens up another can of worms, if the actress is doing it for "free" she is not contractually obligated, missoverdramaticexit can go all the way to Madrid begin the shoot and then when load #20 goes into her uncovered eyes, decides to end the shoot and leave, PB will be held with their pants down and their dick out (cost is spent already) what then?

and why do I have to explain all this on a porn forum? [too late I know after typing all of the above] fuck it....you want missgokkunloads start a fund and hire the services of torbe, just don't bully PB and their paying members into something they are not asking for, as I suspect half of the shitposts here are by non-subs anyway.

bla bla bla, I bet Titia would bring more new members then most of the recent models that pb shoot... jes have you even watched the recent scenes? except vicky and ana spears I bet titia would beat them all in the rating!
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby Prime385 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:52 pm

Kefka wrote:@bluman

alright, I'll entertain your request. I'll speak of the financial details one can presume to assume.

so the actress comes free, thus we should produce a scene/ or more with her?

Firstly, the actress although usually paid isn't the greatest cost to a production, the PRODUCTION is the greatest cost as I will explain to you further below.

+booking of the stay and travel tickets for non local actresses as well as +wardrobe (clothes)actress can buy with a given budget.

+bukkakeros compensation
+director compensation
+production and production assistance
+fluffers
+post-production editing and marketing costs

these things constitute 80-85% of the "Direct cost" .

then come the indirect costs:
+membership gain/loss
+membership retention (big factor in making production decision)

now let's assume a production cost of 10k euros (given all the above just as a hypothetical scenario),

PB shoots Nikki hill [amature slav, winning formula], they gain +50members in subs, they can build on this and market it for the future so there is "residuals" from that production.

now assume PB shoots Missbiggokkunswallows [untested milf formula] production goes great, she comes free , but direct costs are about 8k euros, so you would assume NICE , PB saved 2k there that's great! we are off to a good start, but then it it does not materialize into increased subs or membership retention, hell there is even the possibility of membership loss, so you tell me? bottom line is that a + or a - for PB?

"But kefka she loves to swallow, not like those fake bitches"

ya so? what do I care if the actress likes to swallow or not? it's her job to do so. you are contractually obligated to do so or you don't get paid, which opens up another can of worms, if the actress is doing it for "free" she is not contractually obligated, missoverdramaticexit can go all the way to Madrid begin the shoot and then when load #20 goes into her uncovered eyes, decides to end the shoot and leave, PB will be held with their pants down and their dick out (cost is spent already) what then?

and why do I have to explain all this on a porn forum? [too late I know after typing all of the above] fuck it....you want missgokkunloads start a fund and hire the services of torbe, just don't bully PB and their paying members into something they are not asking for, as I suspect half of the shitposts here are by non-subs anyway.



Let's take a look at the girls that have been on the site in the past year.

  • Hannah Vivienne
  • Pink Charlotte
  • Hellen V
  • Anita Teen
  • Sherry Vine
  • Misha Maver
  • Cherry Kiss
  • Vinna Reed
  • Ashley Ocean
  • Daisy Lee
  • Nikki Hill
  • Alyssa Reece
  • Jojo Kiss
  • Monika Wild
  • Vicky Love
  • Henna Ssy
  • Freya Dee
  • Anna Spears
  • Roxy Lips
  • Lola Taylor
  • Daniela Ray

So that's 21 models in the past year (roughly). Now bear in mind that most of these girls have garbage filler scenes like gloryhole which the site had none of when it launched, is not what it's famous for, and is hated by the majority of members, so the girls would have been paid for these shitty scenes regardless. Probably not the same rate as a bukkake/gokkun, but a cost to the production nonetheless for a scene unlikely to bring many, if any recurring/new members.

Now let's take a look at the list again and tell me how many of them you would consider to be near the same calibre of the original girls. Of course this will be subjective, but I would probably say across the board, most people will probably choose less than half of the list. Me personally,I would say only about 5 of the girls, if I were not a member, would make me think "damn, it might be worth joining to see this" or "I might renew my membership for this", etc.

So currently, not only are PB wasting production money on filler scenes which no one wants and is unlikely to draw new/re-subscribing members in, but they are also wasting production money on girls which I think a lot of people will think are passable.

And let's not forget PB's extortionate membership fees. You sign up for a tiered membership, and downloads are an additional cost, so to get the equivalent membership to any other porn network/site with unlimited downloads to all past and future updates (as long as the membership is active), would probably cost about $20-40 per month on most sites. PB it costs what, over $100 to get the same? I would be very interested to see the membership growth rate of PB, because frankly I'm surprised it's been able to survive as long as it has.

So your point about wasting production money on someone who is asking for no shooting fee because it will generate little-to-no membership growth or retention, in my eyes, is a moot argument, because they are doing exactly that with the paid "professional" actors they have managed to hire recently.
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby robuk on Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:59 pm

^ Don't particularly disagree with the last post, from that list i'd pick about five of those girls that would interest me and only one has made me renew..yes maybe i'm a fussy git but would Titia be any worse than JoJo, Monika Wild or Lola Taylor..i doubt it and if she is a cum lover then who knows,might be worth a go.
Don't take me too seriously;)
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby Prime385 on Sat Feb 22, 2020 1:26 pm

Kefka wrote:can you clarify what you mean by

"Now let's take a look at the list again and tell me how many of them you would consider to be near the same calibre of the original girls. ",

I don't want to put words in your mouth, but am I to understand by your statement, that you hold titia in the Calibre of the classic Ukrainians!?


You misunderstood. That post, or that statement, was purely in refute to your argument that it would be a waste of production money. I was talking solely about that list of girls from the past year, and how barely any of those are near the same level of the original girls, therefore the amount of updates over the past year who are "new member worthy" or "membership renewal worthy" is already very low.
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby BluMan on Sat Feb 22, 2020 5:16 pm

Allright you make some good points Kefka.

Hmm still would love to see her. There must be some amateurs who can set something up..
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby chris on Sat Feb 22, 2020 9:07 pm

i'd love to see The Queen back ...
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby Mack on Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:08 am

We all know what made Premium Bukkake premium.
Thank you, B. and the beautiful Ukrainian supermodels.
Torbe really only just provided the venue and the bukkakeros.
The cinematography, lighting, cameras, the girls head and neck angles, and open eyes, and everything else was B.' creativity.

Even though PB is still the best swallowing site there is, it's just not the same with all the inconsistencies.
But it is still the best site.
No other site has anyone swallowing as much cum.

We love you, Ukrainian models. And we miss you.
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby BluMan on Sun Feb 23, 2020 6:49 am

Anybody has any idea where this is from? I've never seen it before. Stumpled on it at Twitter. It's rare i find pics like this i haven't seen.

If it's real and she drank it all, that is very impressive. I doubt it though. That just looks like way too much.
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby Prime385 on Sun Feb 23, 2020 10:01 am

Yes it's real, but it's frozen/defrosted cum.
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby BluMan on Sun Feb 23, 2020 11:57 am

Prime385 wrote:Yes it's real, but it's frozen/defrosted cum.


You know anything about the picture? who she is, more pics of her drinking? Thats an insane amount. Maybe the pic distorts it, but looks 1,5 liters!
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby chris on Sun Feb 23, 2020 1:04 pm

Do you really believe this amount of "cum" is REAL and there is video which she drink it all ?
oh well ....

P.S. That's why PB is the best swallowing site in the world ,no fake or "frozen" bullshit :mrgreen: like in US and mostly in JAPAN
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby BluMan on Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:04 pm

I guess it gotta be fake..
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby Prime385 on Sun Feb 23, 2020 3:36 pm

Never understood this "it's frozen therefore it's fake" way of thinking. Yes, frozen cum and "straight outta the tap" is completely different, but it doesn't make frozen cum "fake". The source is still the same, it's still coming out of someone's cock. It's just a more convenient way to have a large amount available at short notice, unless you can tell me the logistics of how you would arrange to get multiple litres of cum available in the space of a few hours - how many people that would require.

It's like saying McDonald's or some microwaveable ready meal or something is "fake food", because it's been frozen during transportation and isn't fresh food from the market that picked that day. Like, it's still food, even if it's "low quality" food in comparison to a meal with fresh cooked ingredients.
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby bismarck31 on Sun Feb 23, 2020 4:57 pm

Her name is NaughtyKelly. She was active on facialforum but eventually took back all of her content. Some people gotta have it somewhere.
There's an album here : https://thisvid.com/members/625525/albums/
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Re: Premium Bukkake official thread

Postby chris on Sun Feb 23, 2020 5:38 pm

^ I just see a few pics ...

Prime385 wrote:The source is still the same, it's still coming out of someone's cock.

Is there a video where can we see that? the cock(s) who they ejaculated one by one in all that time?
I'm pretty sure NO, so how do you know is real the whole amount of sperm ...

Anyway for me it's amazing how the people believe it :roll:
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