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[badluckTorbe]

http://www.imagebam.com/image/52756f487681951
F-Hi Vika. Pls tell me in breif. What and how was there like?
G-I'm Veronika.
F- Oh. Sorry. What about my question?
G-The question is not relevant
F-What have they told you? Are there any "secret" videos.
G-I haven't seen your video.
F-It's not mine, it's yours.
G-Not mine either.
F-Ooook... (sends picture)
G-Never seen it before.
F-But it's you
G-You are strange. Ofcourse not.

[krull]

Thanks a lot for that translation, I understand you fine. The line "I have forgotten about everything already. That's it. Don't need to remember." seems to imply she didn't really like it.. Probably the girl speaking in that video is the one I was just reading about in a news piece, telling the models what to do under orders from ***.

I've identified the model Elya as an escort, she appears on several sites offering her services:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/a1016e487721444
http://www.imagebam.com/image/65cf45487721448

Oh dear Torbe, what did you get yourself into

[badluckTorbe]

Thanks a lot for that translation, I understand you fine. The line "I have forgotten about everything already. That's it. Don't need to remember." seems to imply she didn't really like it..

Mb it's not her friend at all. Not random guy for sure. I think she's just ashamed of what she did in Spain, and I totally get it... it's rather dirty stuff Liked it or not? We'll never know for sure... She'd probably said smth like: "It was disgusting. Why do you remind me?"

I've identified the model Elya as an escort, she appears on several sites offering her services:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/a1016e487721444
http://www.imagebam.com/image/65cf45487721448

Oh dear Torbe, what did you get yourself into

Looks like it really is "Elya's" photo. Here she offers her services under name of Veronichka. But about 99.9% girls on this kind of sites, post either fake or stollen from social networks photos. It's a common practice on Russian and Ukranian escort sites. Mb because of level of tolerance to this kind of profession.

[Am0rIn0]

Lol typical logic of naive woman. they somehow convinced these models that these scenes would be private and not for public and paid really good money. but as dumb they are, they signed releases without reading them (as always).

For many models it is all about staying under the radar because of family, friends and law. That's why many of those solo models don't officially do BG, but hook around with every photographer or do private scenes with punters.

Than screencaps and pics spread around like fire and they realized what shit they have done, now they deny it even if it is obvious. Women are kind of strong minded when it comes to lie to themself. Wouldn't wonder if one of them initiated that whole investigation out of revenge, to cover own stupidity.

Anyway, I hope those scenes will be released some day.

[badluckTorbe]

Lol typical logic of naive woman. they somehow convinced these models that these scenes would be private and not for public and paid really good money. but as dumb they are, they signed releases without reading them (as always).

It's hard to believe in stmth like this. Torbe and Putalocura site is rather popular on Russian and Ukrainian porn torrent trackers (these releases often win "most popular release of the month" or even "of the year" awards) I think Torbe is a second after John Thompson nowdays in terms of popularity here. I doubt that they had no idea of what they were going to do (or thought it would be some private video). Looks like Torbe knew that these girls weren't legit (escorts with fake ID's mb), so he didn't hurry with the releases. Anyway... I hope we'll be able to watch these scenes sometime in the future. Angel B at least, cause she's legit model 100%. fingers crossed

[Robin]

I have recently discovered the Putalocura forum, I did not know it existed because it isn't on the main page and found by accident whilst on twitter. It is an odd place, almost seems to be separate from Torbe's domain and half of the topics are about some very random things, it's also all in Spanish and Google makes a lot of it into nonsense as usual. Still, I can make out that there is a lot of discussion of Torbe's arrest there, many photos and links posted about it but you can't see them unless you're registered and I'm not sure about doing that, at least not yet. From what I can make out already, several pieces of info are discussed:

- Torbe was released on bail yesterday allegedly but I cannot find anything else to back that up. It could be true and conditions prevent him from using the internet or something but no way to confirm.

- There are two underage girls from Ukraine who claim they were abused, supposedly protected witnesses. One of the girls Torbe recently worked with claims they are active as pornstars with other mainstream sites today.

- At least some of the bukkakes are on a "hidden" website that this *** uses but I have no information about it.

I think it would be best if someone who understands Spanish can look into the information properly;

http://foro.putalocura.com/

On another note, Googling the model images, I discovered a VK page with all the photos on from the Bukkake models as well as what looks like twitter/instagram photos of them which I saved. It has since vanished, but it is still present in the cache however:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/df6ec8487681953
http://www.imagebam.com/image/e94e66487682760

Of the most interest are a couple of screengrabs of chats supposedly with two of the girls (Kira and Monro) in Russian or Ukrainian:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/07212c487681950
http://www.imagebam.com/image/52756f487681951

Perhaps someone can translate them as I haven't a clue what they say...

The video on the Monro grab is here on the Instagram, it sounds like a female translator speaking in the background:

https://www.instagram.com/p/BBAuSBniIpn/

Torbe's instagram has some very weird stuff on it

hahaha don't take into consideration the comments of this crazy forum, most users there just writes jokes and waver... is not a forum where those who write are really fans of Torbe and Putalocura, it's just a fun. There are not any official information about this "hidden site of ***" or about if Torbe was released on bail...

[Am0rIn0]

Lol typical logic of naive woman. they somehow convinced these models that these scenes would be private and not for public and paid really good money. but as dumb they are, they signed releases without reading them (as always).

It's hard to believe in stmth like this. Torbe and Putalocura site is rather popular on Russian and Ukrainian porn torrent trackers (these releases often win "most popular release of the month" or even "of the year" awards) I think Torbe is a second after John Thompson nowdays in terms of popularity here. I doubt that they had no idea of what they were going to do (or thought it would be some private video). Looks like Torbe knew that these girls weren't legit (escorts with fake ID's mb), so he didn't hurry with the releases. Anyway... I hope we'll be able to watch these scenes sometime in the future. Angel B at least, cause she's legit model 100%. fingers crossed

Simple question, why did those girls do a bukkake and not regular bg?

they never did regular bg, because they were afraid of being recognized. but now out of sudden a bukkake? instead of sex with one man, 30 average joes who cum on them and whole world can see it?

trust me i know many of these girls, many of them are dumb as fuck and the worst ones are bitches too. you really can (and should) only use them for one thing: sex. (some good exceptions apply of course) it doesnt sound political correct, but the truth actually never is.

[badluckTorbe]

trust me i know many of these girls, many of them are dumb as fuck and the worst ones are bitches too. you really can (and should) only use them for one thing: sex. (some good exceptions apply of course) it doesnt sound political correct, but the truth actually never is.

Can't argue with that.

Why bukkake? Putalocura is known for its bukkake series. Mb they did gb, but these scenes weren't announced. Who knows?
But look at the Angel B's screens on the 1st page. She looks happy to do bukkake, she's official porn model, but I've never seen her in hard porn either. Only softcore sets. I mean she doesn't look like she was forced to do such things, and she knew porn business for sure.. And most of this girls did multiple bukkake(2-3 at least) I think they went to Madrid to earn some good amount of cash and to become famous pornstars (again - Torbe is like Woodman or Thompson in this regions). Mb most of them were just prostitutes with the dreams of being big pornstars one day, earning lots of cash. Mb they wanted to stay in Spain in this case, but it didn't work out. And Torbe was the only famous director willing to work with practically everobody. Amateus, uknown models (mb even fake ID's).
This reminds me of Viola Bayley's story. She did lots of softcore sets, then suddenly went hard with a popular director Pierre Woodman (swallowing cum from multiple guys also) Then she realized how recognized she had become in native regions and dissapeared from hard scenes again.
Don't get me wrong, I don't argue with you. Just theory.

[worldofp]

anyway Robin is right about the putalocura forum. it's just a waste of time trying to find information. In a topic about bukkake I found pictures of men and women slaughtered, decapitated heads and other shit...it's weird

[chris]

The resume of this story...
Ukrainian agencies are so unprofessionally. There is no serious porn business in Kiev or anywhere else in Ukraine,that's the big problem there.
Torbe did his biggest mistake with these agents/pimps and he paid it.
Too bad of course as the ukrainian girls are extremely beautiful...just my two cents.

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Right after bukkake (16 march) - kira don't looks sad!
https://vk.com/video36432055_456239018
Some of her video: https://vk.com/video36432055_456239017

[krull]

Reading more of that forum I get the impression that it is a joke site, some complained about the photos of dead children, thankfully I can't see because I'm not a user. Seems like a load of people posting their emails to get the *** site sent to them and the users trolling them about it. One of the users said they were updating the site but stopped because they couldn't be bothered anymore.. whatever the case, the site was being updated and now hasn't been so for weeks. I imagine the paid members are pretty pissed right now, especially those that bought a year's subscription, I was going to join after Angela's bukkake was released but that never happened... dodged a bullet it seems.

Simple question, why did those girls do a bukkake and not regular bg?

Very good question, Putalocura's bukkakes are one of a kind in this day and age, since only the Japs make that kind of stuff and the classic American gokkun years of NCDA, Sperm cocktail etc are long gone (I wish I knew why!). Torbe bukkakes show that there are girls that love this kind of stuff, swallowing 6.. 10.. 15 loads in one gulp and smiling whilst they wait for more. Some girls are just into cum like that, some are indifferent and some absolutely hate the idea of swallowing. I believe looking at Angel B's session for Torbe she loved every minute of it, she's constantly smiling in the photos plus the chronicles posted on the site showed it was a big success enough she did another 3 times with the final being a gangbang. So if any of those scenes will see the light of day, it will hopefully be hers because we all know she's legit like BLT said.

On the other hand, maybe with some of them it was done for the money and they did not realise just what they were going to do. The news reported from the Ukrainian girl who is a witness (other is Spanish) that she did not realise what was happening until it was "too late" and that she was crying and being sick and being ordered to carry on or *** would punish her. I cannot see how this happened, as I said there were easily a 100 people there and I never heard of any models being forced to do anything. You can't silence them all with the threat of death or something, it's unrealistic. So I agree that she maybe was ashamed of what she did and was worried about people knowing about so she went to the police with a story which by law they have to investigate fully. But who knows, maybe all of this is actually true, something is certainly wrong when 23 year old has €3000 to blow in a 5 star hotel every night... I'm not even mentioning charges of making child pornography or offshore money laundering...

Btw this Spanish witness was identified on a news piece I saw today. She was in several Bukkakes on Torbe's site, I remember he wrote a piece on this blog about falling out with her over something. Anyway she claims she was pressured into doing it all because of financial problems yet she is active as a porn star with other studios, I've spotted her on a few Spanish sites.. so yeah, not quite clear cut.

Anyhow... let's say that perhaps one of the girls was abused and was not a willing participant in this so there is still a case there and her videos can never be shown, does that mean that all those videos where the girls weren't abused can be released or does the police still hold onto them? That's a genuine question because I have no idea about how the law works there (especially in Spain).

[edit] aaaaalx those links don't work

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Sorry... i have edited links

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Milena
http://torbe.es/bukkakes/este-miercoles ... on-milena/
http://www.putalocura.com/actriz/milena

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Nona
http://torbe.es/bukkakes/bukkake-martes ... lega-nona/
http://torbe.es/bukkakes/bukkake-vierne ... utal-nona/
http://torbe.es/bukkakes/bukkake-martes ... a-de-nona/