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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby aaaaalx on Mon Jun 06, 2016 4:34 am

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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby badluckTorbe on Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:37 am

krull wrote:Btw.. how do you know that video of her happy in Madrid was after the bukkake not before?

Found her page too.
1st of all: bukkake was on 15th March and video was posted on 17th.
Second: here is the screen of her post on her VK wall dated - 18 March:
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Happy smiles. Doesn't look like she was abused several days ago...
Translation:
Going to Ukraine on 20th March. To Kiev.(smiles)
From Madrid.(smiles)
There is no single sad post from Madrid. And she posted pretty often from there.
BTW. Thank you all for the photos. Girls are crazy hot. In comparison with many other putalocura models... just WOW :shock:

1 more thing:
http://www.imagebam.com/image/07212c487681950
That "mister owl" guy is a totall stranger to Kira. Found his page too. Looks like he's just another putalocura fan. Explains a lot. Her answers to him were rare and moderate for this reason.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby badluckTorbe on Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:39 pm

Black Panther during her stay there...
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Looks so "abused" and "human trafficted" ::: Did multiple bukkakes BTW.
No sad posts or smth like that either. The girl looks happy as hell from then till now. And she has no money issues... that's her car below. Latest Iphone version on every foto :D
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I guess she was really into cum that much. The girl is wealthy enough and Torbe payed not THAT much, to go dirty only for money.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby paroxysmia on Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:46 pm

Ok guys, I see many new creeps here with recent accounts and posting only on Torbe topic. You know, I don't think Torbe needs to be defended on EBI by white knights stalking UA/RU models to prove they are happy after swallowing 10 guys during a bukkake. I don't really like this strategy of defense. :evil:

So stop stalking models and posting personal photos from VK and other social networks about girls involved in Torbe's scandal. Or I close the topic.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby badluckTorbe on Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:01 pm

paroxysmia wrote:Ok guys, I see many new creeps here with recent accounts and posting only on Torbe topic. You know, I don't think Torbe needs to be defended on EBI by white knights stalking UA/RU models to prove they are happy after swallowing 10 guys during a bukkake. I don't really like this strategy of defense. :evil:

So stop stalking models and posting personal photos from VK and other social networks about girls involved in Torbe's scandal. Or I close the topic.

Nobody stalked them. No links were added either. Mb he is guilty of charges, don't care. Just looking if these scenes were legit. And looks like they were.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:13 pm

paroxysmia wrote:Ok guys, I see many new creeps here with recent accounts and posting only on Torbe topic. You know, I don't think Torbe needs to be defended on EBI by white knights stalking UA/RU models to prove they are happy after swallowing 10 guys during a bukkake. I don't really like this strategy of defense. :evil:

So stop stalking models and posting personal photos from VK and other social networks about girls involved in Torbe's scandal. Or I close the topic.

I don't think this guy is a stalker. There are many other people who posted girls pix from vk and you never told anything about.
Why do you want to close topic or delete any pic or link? I saw now these girls are professionals and not innocent victims of bad boy Torbe.
Btw, Nacho was a rich guy. He is not from poor family.He had other business exept his web and webcams. PL had more then 200000-250000 visits a day.Maybe somebody just wanted to destroy a concurrence? I read story about "poor nanny" when one pimp asked girls to play poor baby sitters just to destroy other pimps.Probably these "poor ucranian girls" just did the same?

Badluck Torbe! Is it Rudenko 's photosets? A photographer from Kiev?
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby badluckTorbe on Mon Jun 06, 2016 10:42 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:I don't think this guy is a stalker. There are many other people who posted girls pix from vk and you never told anything about.
Why do you want to close topic or delete any pic or link? I saw now these girls are professionals and not innocent victims of bad boy Torbe.
Btw, Nacho was a rich guy. He is not from poor family.He had other business exept his web and webcams. PL had more then 200000-250000 visits a day.Maybe somebody just wanted to destroy a concurrence? I read story about "poor nanny" when one pimp asked girls to play poor baby sitters just to destroy other pimps.Probably these "poor ucranian girls" just did the same?

Badluck Torbe! Is it Rudenko 's photosets? A photographer from Kiev?

Thx for the support. Just want to know the truth about this crazy story. Because when you read smth like this on RT:
"They lured girls who had financial problems at home, gave them the necessary documents to enter Spain and once they were here they would... lock them up, often in the office where the recordings took place," Spanish police said in a statement.

you just want to see the proof of such loud statements.

About photosets - don't know. I didn't upload these photos here. And even more, I didn't write any of these girls asking questions. I respect their privacy and don't want to bother them. Just looked at their posts about Madrid, to make sure, they weren't caged, locked up or smth like that... From what I've seen so far - they have nice cars, expensive clothes and visit elite places.

PS: I've even made sure that my pictures couldn't be "googled", to get a link to their pages.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not just some Torbe deffending "creep") I was born in Ukraine and have my own apartments in Russia, where I often do business (many countries in fact). For me it should be like :"some Spanish pervert VS my home models". But it isn't. Because I know how things can get ugly in both of this countries when it's about sex and money.
Nevertheless if he is guilty of child porn, I'll be first to hate this man with all my heart.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby aaaaalx on Mon Jun 06, 2016 11:56 pm

They all are escort girls from Ukraine. Question only one - how much money have been offered for those shootings. And how good was story about that Spain placed on the Mars, and nobody won't know about this in Ukraine.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:01 am

aaaaalx wrote:They all are escort girls from Ukraine. Question only one - how much money have been offered for those shootings. ... that Spain placed on the Mars, and nobody won't know about this in Ukraine.

Most of these girls can't read or write on any language exept their own.I bet their "managers" told them the material will be distributed just in Spain. Check vk profiles and escort forums and you will see you self.
Torbe offered 800€ for bukkake to spanish girls. Probably he paid more to Ucranians because there were more guys on set. But girls , I am sure, got much less. The pimps take big % from girls.
I bet soon we will see these "poor victims " ssomewhere in Istanbul , Dubai or Paris working for their "managers " like nothing happens meanwhile Nacho would be sitting in small cell.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:11 am

badluckTorbe wrote:"They lured girls who had financial problems at home, gave them the necessary documents to enter Spain and once they were here they would... lock them up, often in the office where the recordings took place," Spanish police said in a statement.

you just want to see the proof of such loud statements.



Don't get me wrong. I'm not just some Torbe deffending "creep") I was born in Ukraine and have my own apartments in Russia, where I often do business (many countries in fact). For me it should be like :"some Spanish pervert VS my home models". But it isn't. Because I know how things can get ugly in both of this countries when it's about sex and money.
Nevertheless if he is guilty of child porn, I'll be first to hate this man with all my heart.[/quote]

Torbe can be greedy or lazy but he's a simple guy.I don't think he is perv.I thought about fake Ids provided by manager to the girls. Is it true that you can buy new ucranian passport just for 200$?
Nobody closed these girls in Madrid! Yes, there are closed girls in North Cyprus or Bahrain but not in Spain.
Why police doesn't look for pimps? They earn more money then whole population in Ucraine and Russia together.
Rudenko is a ucranian photographer very famouse between escorts.He is very expensive.Many ucranian and russian escort agencies send their girls to him. That's why you can easy recognise some of them:the same style, pose, expressions, photoshop
No one western escort girl will pay such a huge amount of money for this kind of pix.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby badluckTorbe on Tue Jun 07, 2016 11:25 am

olga cabaeva wrote:Torbe can be greedy or lazy but he's a simple guy.I don't think he is perv.I thought about fake Ids provided by manager to the girls. Is it true that you can buy new ucranian passport just for 200$?

Don't have any info about passports. But with right connections, I suppose it's possible, because 200$ is a decent amount of money nowdays (considering exchange course). But I can assure you, that all sex industry in this countries is under control of very dangerous and powerfull men (high rank criminals to put it simple). So it doesn't matter who you are or how famous you are, when you deal with that kind of guys.
olga cabaeva wrote:Torbe offered 800€ for bukkake to spanish girls.

Are you sure? It's a price of a new iphone. And if these girls are really elite escorts, they can earn this amount of money in one night. 2 max.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:28 pm

Torbe offered me 800€ for bukkake and he told he pay the same amount money to spanish girls.
Elite escort???? What does it mean for you? These girls are not famouse they don't speak any language exept their own and they don't have valid documents. Do you think real elite escort like that? Check all prices and services on forums and escort websites. For example, put escort Sweden in Google and you will see most of girls start from 1000 swedish coronas. If a girl works on her own she takes all money for herself but not like in case with most Russians or Ucranians. They must pay for hotel and apartment more then it costs in reality from their pockets+what they earn they send 50% to their pimps+ "luxury"photoset+documents. If a girl was deported from any country , she just needs to ask her manager to do new documents with new name , sometimes with new date of birth. The hour of regular escort cost between 150-300€ depends on country in EU. Don't forget they never have whole money.
Best rates paid in Quatar, Emirates and Saudi. USA and Australia are good but they have complications with touristic visas their+control on the border.
Israel, Thailand, India , Greece and Turkey are cheap. Israel and Turkey you don t need a visa.In Istanbul you can book russian or ucranian girl with full service for very reasonable price. Girls earn between 50-75$ by hour there.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby badluckTorbe on Tue Jun 07, 2016 1:50 pm

olga cabaeva wrote:Torbe offered me 800€ for bukkake and he told he pay the same amount money to spanish girls.
Elite escort???? What does it mean for you? These girls are not famouse they don't speak any language exept their own and they don't have valid documents. Do you think real elite escort like that?

I meant whole night, not hour. And by the looks of their pages these girls earn money by being models, and they earn enough (that brand new audi car now, and she drove porsche cayenne earlier, apartments, expensive night and fitness clubs). I don't know if they really are escorts or not. But if they are, then it costs ten times more to spend night with such kind of girl. My friend in Russia got married second time last year and ordered that kind of girl on his bachelor party. The price was astronomical (about 1.5K € with NEW exchange course), but the girl herself was "piece of art" indeed... She was a model also and did such kind of things from time to time obviously. Don't know if she spoke some other language either. She drives E classe mercedes. And that's what I call "elite".
olga cabaeva wrote:Girls earn between 50-75$ by hour there

So it's close enough to what I've said earlier. 2 full nights and 800 € are in your pocket that way... And it's private, it's not some kind of perverted porn. Or I missing smth?
And ru\ukr escort sites are totally lame. You'll never get the girl from the photo there) Fake or stollen photos 99%
So if you want to order some "elite" girl (which work only full night) you should be ready to pay at least 500-1.5K €. And there are no sites with them (at least that "1.5K" model wasn't offering her sevices anywhere in internet). Only good connections. These girls usually have good private lives and stay beneath the radar.
PS: sry for offtop
And to prove my words about Torbe's popularity in Russia and Ukarine. Here's screen from largest russian speaking porn torrent tracker:
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Latest bukkake session with Marta Pink won "most popular release of the month" award... again.
So they weren't locked up (at least these two) and I still think they totally knew who Torbe was and wanted to get famous.
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Re: Russian and Ukrainian models do bukkake in Spain

Postby olga cabaeva on Tue Jun 07, 2016 8:16 pm

They can go on "tema" in Russia or Ucraine. Yes, it can costs 1000$ for whole night .But they must visit many castings orginized by their managers before to be chosen.
Fashion or glamour models???? Lo L! That's funny. ..Why these "famouse models go to Madrid to work with our friend Nacho Torbe who doesn't pay Vivid rates? And swallowed cut from 100 strangers from the street? Because Torbe takes people from the street for bukkake. ..
If these ucranian girls are professional models they should have references and freedbacks from photographers, stylists , make up artists ,coworkers , professional model pix, covers, videos of advertising.
They don't look like models at all.Angela is cute but she did adult/porn in the past. Most of glam photographers need girls maximum level artistic nude. Others with fake lips ....sorry, but we are not blind here.
I am interested to know how much these girls were paid to put Nacho in jail? And who was behind all this shit?
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