PremiumBukkake.com Discussion Thread

[Dr Proctor]

Remember that economical situation in Spain is still bad so I no wonder that some cops are leaking info on the side for a good sums of money.
BTW Angela's sex scene on dreamstash was removed. I wonder how much she had to pay. Also all her info was cleaned up to softcore only. indexxx said that if videos werent released they will not put any info up. But dreamstash was a release and it was up. I know it was up for an hour but still it is a release.

PS. We confirmed that outfits that were used for a photosets were also used in actual videos. From what we could scrape the amount of outfits are exactly the same as number of videos every girl shot. This raises a question. Were there more photosets? Or girls knew how many videos they will be shooting. Due the fact that Michelle was straggling but continue we can assume that they all knew and signed for specific number of movies. Also from forums we can see that only her wasn't aware of torbes bukkake means swallowing.

[Robin]

Remember that economical situation in Spain is still bad so I no wonder that some cops are leaking info on the side for a good sums of money.

this is not south america and cops are well paid, the economical situation in Spain is not so bad as you think. If the info is "leaking" is because they have a judicial authorization, the detention is not any transcendental info. These images of his detention in his room be online since first day, but now extended.

[krull]

Actually until yesterday all we saw was the police looking around his flat and a split second glimpse of Torbe on the bed, this latest footage is much more. What does this material being shown on tv achieve exactly? Do the police regularly film themselves breaking into property and arresting people? They tell him they're there to search for drugs and pornography... I mean aside from the ridiculous notion of searching for porn in a porn producer's home, they failed to find any drugs, nor did they find any at the PL building.. "shit.. but but.. look at these masks.. look at how dirty and shady they look.. these were definitely used in criminal activities..".

Anyway.. we're not really talking about that, we're talking about the information being paraded in sensationalist media as part of an ongoing open investigation that is somehow proof without doubt that Torbe is a criminal. A conversation between Torbe and a friend angry about being taken for a fool and being reported to the police wanting repayment for damages and the cost of production etc is not proof of blackmail, I've never heard of someone being charged for "thinking about maybe committing blackmail" unless Torbe specifically threatened the girl or her family then there is no criminal act there. Besides, the way that conversation is shown is odd, Torbe speaks and then Fran, the two speaking never interact with each other and is barely an actual conversation. Torbe has photos and videos of the girl TP1 (or 2 or whatever the fuck) obviously because he believed her to be 18 when he kept them. Conversations allegedly showing Torbe talking about material of a girl of a 16 year old just sounds like bs to me.. why was this not mentioned in the police report at the start? You're telling me they took 5 months to find these conversations on his phone? Please...

All of this information comes out because of 'judicial authorization' when a trial hasn't even started yet, on live tv watched by millions and Torbe has a tv and can see it all without being able to defend himself because he's being denied bail. Worse still, the other prisoners have a tv and if they think that he is a paedophile, they may come after him. I've read about several thousand people stuck in Spanish prisons still waiting for a trial a year or so on from being charged and remanded, in a modern functioning democracy that is just ludicrous, Spain needs to get it's shit together!

Anyway, the odds against Torbe are stacked against him for being a porn producer, feminazis are all frothing at the mouth over his case. It's clear the state would rather porn didn't exist in the country but they don't want to actually make it illegal because of the benefits it brings to the economy. I even heard a rumour that Judge Pedro Antonio Dominguez is a former member of the PSOE. I'm not sure that there is some kind of grand conspiracy against Torbe but I wouldn't be surprised if there was some truth in that...

[Dr Proctor]

Remember that economical situation in Spain is still bad so I no wonder that some cops are leaking info on the side for a good sums of money.

this is not south america and cops are well paid, the economical situation in Spain is not so bad as you think. If the info is "leaking" is because they have a judicial authorization, the detention is not any transcendental info. These images of his detention in his room are online since first day, but now extended.

For us North Americans this looks like abstraction of justice and illegal leakage of information. I know Spain has different laws but still.

PS. Krull All this looks like Spain is still using witch hunt laws.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3jt5ibfRzw

[killar83]

'I think we're going to run out to see BKK ***; it seems that the videos are going to be the police and the judge to take themselves Straws

[krull]

The premiumbukkake domain is registered till September 2017 so it'll still be around for awhile, but unless we know the username and password (or the site is forced) it'll remain closed and even then there might not be anything there, just an empty shell from when the site was under construction... At this point, the best case scenario is that the letters rogatory to Ukraine fails to get a response and that part of the case collapses and charges against *** and Mila are dropped, but even then given that *** had a 50/50 ownership of the material with Torbe, it's not clear who the videos would even belong to...

[krull]

No news but today a short documentary has emerged on a website sinfiltros.com (No filter), "I was Torbe muse" in which one of the protected witnesses in the case talks about her time with Torbe:

http://www.sinfiltros.com/denuncia/fui- ... 60919.html

She is TP2, the one who is still active in porn today, I know this because of the specific details she talks about. The documentary makes the wild statement that Spanish companies pay €400 a scene (when it is more like €200) and this girl claims Torbe only paid her €150 and that she was caught in a trap because of it. She claims she caught Chlamydia whilst recording. The documentary discusses "the extreme pornographic content of bukkakes" and a web of deception and blackmail displaying the phone conversations between Torbe and the girl. Actually they don't show any actual criminal evidence, just the girl saying that she has a friend who can work with "girls, boys or transsexuals" and Torbe is delighted, then she says she is 17 but will soon be 18 and Torbe asks to see her most recent photos. If this is somehow proof to the police that Torbe works with minors then it is absolutely pathetic! Another conversation about selling girls underwear is shown too, what this is supposed to demonstrate I do not know, there is no crime committed here. What absolute horse cock, If anyone has been caught in a trap it's Torbe...

[killar83]

-no New case Torbe news

[krull]

No... in fact we haven't had any real significant news since August 24th when De Gea and Muniain were ruled out of any criminal prosecution in the case. Since then we've had the 3 Okdiario articles and that crap on Ana Rosa, which thinking about it is all old anyway, the alleged evidence of "blackmail" is contained in the initial police report and the footage of Torbe's arrest is from April. I was waiting for all the newspapers to jump on that story but.. nada, not even El Espanol. So it leads me to believe that there isn't anything new, all this bs about Torbe owning a brothel comes from TP3 who has been shown unsurprisingly to be the biggest lying sack of shit in all of this. The human trafficking claims has gone nowhere so that's why the prosecution are desperately trying to get a response from Ukraine to the letters rogatory. This Monday will mark 6 months since Torbe was sent to prison, I would hope there would be news then but perhaps not, we'll see...

Btw.. Torbe's bukkakes, the guys always cheered and clapped at the end.. I don't think that it would be any different with the Ukrainians, so it'd be very hard to say that the girls were forced against their will to do this if they're getting praised at the end for breaking all those records. I really think all of this is down to out of context wiretapping and some of the Torbe fluffer girls that spoke to police trying to whitewash their involvement with the recordings saying it was all forced, before the police had even had time to look at any of the videos. I think they are not in a hurry to part with them, at the end of the day in the police precinct the women probably go home and the guys call their families to say they need to work late before enjoying a video or two or three...

[krull]

Torbe has now been in prison for 5 months without trial, on paper thin "evidence" and "witnesses" who have lied multiple times, great job Spain!

FREE TORBE!

[edit]5 months, my dates are off...

[Robin]

Torbe has now been in prison for 6 months without trial, on paper thin "evidence" and "witnesses" who have lied multiple times, great job Spain!

FREE TORBE!

he is in jail since 25 april, 5 months

[krull]

How embarrassing, you're right.. I was thinking 26th March for some reason.. Erk.

[Robin]

How embarrassing, you're right.. I was thinking 26th March for some reason.. Erk.

Ok, anyway, please don't question the spanish justice and the police's work as if it were something like a joke or not serious, I know clearly that some witnesses are lying and just trying to take advantage of this affaire, but the main issue is not just the witnesses or ***, the main issue is the underage girl he did scenes with her and also sent by whatssap to his friends an small video of her showing her tits, and the blackmail to her father, and also is certain according to the police that they found videos and id's of underage girls in his phones and hard drives and he sold (or tried to sell) these videos to deep web, so it's logical that he can't leave to the prison. Let them to do their work.

[Dr Proctor]

Some Monro for now.)

[krull]

How embarrassing, you're right.. I was thinking 26th March for some reason.. Erk.

Ok, anyway, please don't question the spanish justice and the police's work as if it were something like a joke or not serious, I know clearly that some witnesses are lying and just trying to take advantage of this affaire, but the main issue is not just the witnesses or ***, the main issue is the underage girl he did scenes with her and also sent by whatssap to his friends an small video of her showing her tits, and the blackmail to her father, and also is certain according to the police that they found videos and id's of underage girls in his phones and hard drives and he sold (or tried to sell) these videos to deep web, so it's logical that he can't leave to the prison. Let them to do their work.

Right, but this underage girl is one of those witnesses who lied about her age and submitted fake documentation, she also failed to disclose she had been consuming a cocktail of drugs for months and accused Torbe of dosing her with narcotics instead. We're also talking about a girl very close to 18, comparing this to actual sex offenders who look at pictures of 12/14 year old girls is just ridiculous, his account of events have been consistent with the conversations he had with people. As for blackmail.. I'll say it again, a casual conversation with someone about possibly wanting to blackmail someone is not evidence of blackmail. Plus, it looks like this conversation is edited, who knows what the real conversation actually sounds like. I learnt an important phrase in Spanish law recently; "Cogitationes poenam nemo patitur".. You cannot be punished for your thoughts, unless Torbe actually spoke with the father in a threatening manner, it isn't blackmail. I don't buy the whole photos/IDs of underage girls on his phone, why the Hell would he keep that? Supposedly he spoke with Fran about material of a 16 year old, not that he actually had material of minors... Fran is known for offences involving minors, not Torbe. Nothing is certain, especially when you consider the police say the Ukrainians were forced to record all their videos when we know extensively from this thread that this is bullshit.

Anyway.. the only source for this is from Ana Rosa, a lunchtime television magazine programme presented by feminazis who say Torbe should be in prison for making bukkake videos let alone anything else. The other papers in Spain have said nothing of this, or anything else for that matter for weeks, so forgive me if I don't swallow their revelations without question. Ana Rosa Quintana and the others are unhealthily cosy with the police from what I've read, one of them claiming the police had actually shown them the porn videos of this this then underage girl... I mean.. what?

I don't mean to brand the entire Spanish justice system as useless or such but it's clear in this case that people are pulling strings to keep Torbe in jail despite several inconsistencies and irregularities in various claims within the case. Elsewhere in Spain a guy is arrested in 2014 who trafficked children and had sex with them, charged with prostitution, abuse and corruption of minors. He served 2 months in prison before being bailed and then finally his trial was held on 20th of this month and he was sentenced to 7 years in prison but instead paid a fine of just €16,200:

http://ultimahora.es/sucesos/ultimas/20 ... renal.html

Explain that one to me please??

Truly if Torbe is guilty of possessing/distributing child pornography, then I want nothing to do with him but that will be upon conviction in a free and fair trial...