PremiumBukkake.com Discussion Thread

[krull]

Well done Olga, it's the exact same chair and piano! Colour corrected the escort photos to match the relevant photos of Eva/Angela/Monro/Elya, I'm not the best at this but you get the idea:




So this is the same place in Paris where some of Torbe's girls were shot! That would now explain why Angela took a flight from Kiev to Paris...

[edit] This model is in the same chair as one of Alina's photos:

[krull]

Had a look on the 6announce site myself, found another piece of furniture I recognised:



Same bed as Eva/Angela...

[krull]

Again, same chair as Eva/Nona:



Well no need to go on, it's conclusive that this is the same location in Paris...

[Dr Proctor]

Aaah I can post now.
krull thanks for all info and hard work researching. I have also some info for shearing.
The studio with all those chairs and beds located in Kiev.
http://xxl-studio.ua/
Also I found some original photos with EXIF data intact. I PM you that info and you would decide what to do with it.

First. Porno business is not what it used to be. There is no more cowboy porn. (LOL maybe there is...dont know) All serious business with contracts. If Torbe didn't do contract with those girls then he needs to be in jail for human trafficking. But I highly doubt that a person who is in this business for long time didnt do it. Also a photo of a girl with contract in one hand and a passport in other is a standard business practice. Second looks like those videos were not for regular people like us. So maybe just maybe there was a issue of human trafficking. Again if girls brought to Spain as a prostitutes for a private party then all people responsible where they belong - behind bars. Are you doing a commercial project or a party?. You cant combine both. So conclusion there are 2 ways. Girls were brought in as a elite escort (who they really are...mot of them) without any documents and no contracts. But if you read carefully there was an agreement how many swallows girl takes (if you read spanish comments) Also girls refused to swallow from some guys. (again from comments) Michelle in last bukkake couldnt not swallow all she was obligated because she couldnt swallow anymore. She may be she is the one vomiting. Also from comments girls were in good spirit and willing. Also Kira's happy dance 2 days after massing swallowing shows that all that "forced" story is total BS. Now lets talk about money. Elite escort charges minimum 1000eur plus flight and etc. I absolutely doubt those girls got any less then that. This is fuels my theory that it was indeed an expensive project to pull off. As krull or someone mentioned a car and a phone. So I assume girls got payed 3k minumum for one session. ("We were forced to do this and got little pay" .. Tell this story to grandmother because marines will not believe you). Girls played victims of Torbe da montro! Also they are all save in Ukraine. But I was wondering if the last girl cuz all the trouble - Mary?!?!. Anyways. Final conclusion. IMHO this was an expensive project for a expensive sell. Because once torbe release it it will be on torrents in a seconds. This project was for special crowd who is willing to pay to cover cost. I assume that total was around 100k. So sell those videos you need to sell them for a good price. That premiumbukkake is designed to do just that. Access is private. They were thinking of opening access but closed it very fast. From picture of registration I can see the picture of Angela that was NOT released. So videos are there...just not for us yet.

[almagr]

IMHO this was an expensive project for a expensive sell. Because once torbe release it it will be on torrents in a seconds. This project was for special crowd who is willing to pay to cover cost. I assume that total was around 100k. So sell those videos you need to sell them for a good price. That premiumbukkake is designed to do just that. Access is private. They were thinking of opening access but closed it very fast. From picture of registration I can see the picture of Angela that was NOT released. So videos are there...just not for us yet.

These videos weren't published anywhere I think. Well, some users of putalocura forum said that they have a link to the site where you can find these videos. If that is a joke or not I don't know. But this site premiumbukake.com (copy and paste in your browser exactly I wrote and you can see the page). Look at the language links its are inactive. What it means? It means the site is not completed. It is not for vip users It's just not finished. Maybe there is another site somewhere...

[olga cabaeva]

Aaah I can post now.
krull thanks for all info and hard work researching. I have also some info for shearing.
The studio with all those chairs and beds located in Kiev.
http://xxl-studio.ua/
Also I found some original photos with EXIF data intact. I PM you that info and you would decide what to do with it.

First. Porno business is not what it used to be. There is no more cowboy porn. (LOL maybe there is...dont know) All serious business with contracts. If Torbe didn't do contract with those girls then he needs to be in jail for human trafficking. But I highly doubt that a person who is in this business for long time didnt do it. Also a photo of a girl with contract in one hand and a passport in other is a standard business practice. Second looks like those videos were not for regular people like us. So maybe just maybe there was a issue of human trafficking. Again if girls brought to Spain as a prostitutes for a private party then all people responsible where they belong - behind bars. Are you doing a commercial project or a party?. You cant combine both. So conclusion there are 2 ways. Girls were brought in as a elite escort (who they really are...mot of them) without any documents and no contracts. But if you read carefully there was an agreement how many swallows girl takes (if you read spanish comments) Also girls refused to swallow from some guys. (again from comments) Michelle in last bukkake couldnt not swallow all she was obligated because she couldnt swallow anymore. She may be she is the one vomiting. Also from comments girls were in good spirit and willing. Also Kira's happy dance 2 days after massing swallowing shows that all that "forced" story is total BS. Now lets talk about money. Elite escort charges minimum 1000eur plus flight and etc. I absolutely doubt those girls got any less then that. This is fuels my theory that it was indeed an expensive project to pull off. As krull or someone mentioned a car and a phone. So I assume girls got payed 3k minumum for one session. ("We were forced to do this and got little pay" .. Tell this story to grandmother because marines will not believe you). Girls played victims of Torbe da montro! Also they are all save in Ukraine. But I was wondering if the last girl cuz all the trouble - Mary?!?!. Anyways. Final conclusion. IMHO this was an expensive project for a expensive sell. Because once torbe release it it will be on torrents in a seconds. This project was for special crowd who is willing to pay to cover cost. I assume that total was around 100k. So sell those videos you need to sell them for a good price. That premiumbukkake is designed to do just that. Access is private. They were thinking of opening access but closed it very fast. From picture of registration I can see the picture of Angela that was NOT released. So videos are there...just not for us yet.

Why do you think these ucranian girls were brought for the party?
Torbe shot bukkake with them and put it in his blog. He also came here and commented about the dates that bukkake will be updated.
These ucranian girls had regular escort photosets like all russian/ucranian girls have. Escort agencies(specially in Paris) do the same photosets for all girls.
If Torbe wanted to orginize party (I hesitated because he is really reach,just with PL he billed 3000000 euros!),he can book swedish or british girls well known in burclese or erotic shows,glamour modeling,czech fashion models with publications,spanish reality stars etc. Who needs these unkown escort girls even if they have I phone?
Yes,many porn directors booked ucranian/russian escort girls from the same pimps,but just Torbe goes to jail.

[Dr Proctor]

LP now records stuff in Mexico with escort girls. The difference is they are all singed contracts. PW always contracts girls. Since the beginning. Everyone does contracts. If Torbe skipped that part. Well his fault.

PS. Talking about escort photos. Angela's photos EXIF her on the sofa. Hmm First Bukkake schedualed @ 13 of november:) :
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Well here some Angela to cheer people up.

[olga cabaeva]

Сommon Dr Proctor! I bet Torbe sighed model releases with girls like LP,Woodman and others. All model releases are more or less the same. I think,he is just quilty of illegal immigration,because these ucranian girls are not EU passport holders and touristic visa doesn't not allow you to work. Does Woodman or LP make working visas for them? No!
All these girls came from the same pimps or managers who advertise something like 2 weeks of shooting and 1 month of escorting. So..All directors are guilty in the same way as Nacho.
http://justporno.tv/1/6052622/confessio ... n_industry
Nobody cares about Halona Vog's story but some people really insist that Nacho is a monster! It looks like Halona is a lier and ucranian girls are angels

[pedro212]

First of all, maybe all this girls are escort or some of them are escort, but Torbe is not accusing to use them as escort, about prostitution it only concerns Spanish girls with football players. Also some tv in Spain discover that maybe he had a brothel in Madrid but this is not illegal and he is not charged for that.

So to repeat and to be sure that we are not lost...

First charge is shooting and distribution of underaged materials, and it concerns a Spanish girl who was taken in bar and shoot some video.
Second charge is human traffic and sexual exploitation, this concerns the Ukrainian girls and bukkake.
Third charge is pimping and it concerns Spanish girls and football players.
Fourth charge is laundry money and taxes fraud, it concerns a bank account in Hong kong at the HSBC there.

What i know for sure is the girls is really underage, so this is is biggest problem, even if he declare that she had a fake ID.
The Ukrainians girls in Spain did not does escort work only Bukkake and they get 3000€ for each set, that i also know for sure.
Why a plan ticket to Paris for Angela, because there is no direct Flight from Kiev to Madrid so she had to stop somewhere : Paris, but she never left the airport, how can i be so sure, the instagram account she use to have report almost every thing of her life with several post every day, so it was possible to track her trip. When she was in Madrid you had the possiblity to see what she is eating her hotel room, what she buy, the monument she visit, for according to that she was not in pain, but do not forget that this girl start working in this business in April 2015, so all the post is also to show family and friend that every things is ok, so you can not say that she was happy or not with what she did.
When the photo of her during the bukkake start to be released on putalocura she had problem with this in kiev and deleted all her account, vk, Facebook, instagram, she used to be a webcam girl for here-art but stop in the same time, then the photos was deleted from the website putalocura and the problems starts for Torbe, cancelling Bukkake etc...if there is a link it start here????
Steve put a a sex tape with her for 2 days in Dreamstash then deleted it, he says that it was on her demand but please how can this guy can afford to loose money???
She had open new one on Facebook and instagram now and show a very different life, Ukrainian boyfriend who seems to be rich and she is doing cafe business on a pyramidal scam (all this girls are fucking stupid) but she can explain to her family how she get money.
All this fact about Angela i am 100%, i check myself.

About *** i will know at the end of the coming week who really is this guy, i find a connection but it takes time.

[olga cabaeva]

First of all, maybe all this girls are escort or some of them are escort, but Torbe is not accusing to use them as escort

Second charge is human traffic and sexual exploitation, this concerns the Ukrainian girls and bukkake.

The Ukrainians girls in Spain did not does escort work only Bukkake and they get 3000€ for each set, that i also know for sure.
Why a plan ticket to Paris for Angela, because there is no direct Flight from Kiev to Madrid so she had to stop somewhere : Paris, but she never left the airport, how can i be so sure, the instagram account she use to have report almost every thing of her life with several post every day, so it was possible to track her trip. When she was in Madrid you had the possiblity to see what she is eating her hotel room, what she buy, the monument she visit, for according to that she was not in pain, but do not forget that this girl start working in this business in April 2015, so all the post is also to show family and friend that every things is ok, so you can not say that she was happy or not with what she did.
When the photo of her during the bukkake start to be released on putalocura she had problem with this in kiev and deleted all her account, vk, Facebook, instagram, she used to be a webcam girl for here-art but stop in the same time, then the photos was deleted from the website putalocura and the problems starts for Torbe, cancelling Bukkake etc...if there is a link it start here????
Steve put a a sex tape with her for 2 days in Dreamstash then deleted it, he says that it was on her demand but please how can this guy can afford to loose money???
She had open new one on Facebook and instagram now and show a very different life, Ukrainian boyfriend who seems to be rich and she is doing cafe business on a pyramidal scam (all this girls are fucking stupid) but she can explain to her family how she get money.
All this fact about Angela i am 100%, .

Ucranian girls are fucking bitches,they wanted just quickly cash and be back home like "a virgin"!
I am sure Torbe booked them just for bukkake,nobody needs them for anything else.
I just wondered why some people wrote here that these girls are rich or famouse models...Does famouse models swallowed Cum from street spanyards? And if Angela has a rich bf why she traveled to Madrid?

[Dr Proctor]

First of all, maybe all this girls are escort or some of them are escort, but Torbe is not accusing to use them as escort, about prostitution it only concerns Spanish girls with football players. Also some tv in Spain discover that maybe he had a brothel in Madrid but this is not illegal and he is not charged for that.

So to repeat and to be sure that we are not lost...

First charge is shooting and distribution of underaged materials, and it concerns a Spanish girl who was taken in bar and shoot some video.
Second charge is human traffic and sexual exploitation, this concerns the Ukrainian girls and bukkake.
Third charge is pimping and it concerns Spanish girls and football players.
Fourth charge is laundry money and taxes fraud, it concerns a bank account in Hong kong at the HSBC there.

What i know for sure is the girls is really underage, so this is is biggest problem, even if he declare that she had a fake ID.
The Ukrainians girls in Spain did not does escort work only Bukkake and they get 3000€ for each set, that i also know for sure.
Why a plan ticket to Paris for Angela, because there is no direct Flight from Kiev to Madrid so she had to stop somewhere : Paris, but she never left the airport, how can i be so sure, the instagram account she use to have report almost every thing of her life with several post every day, so it was possible to track her trip. When she was in Madrid you had the possiblity to see what she is eating her hotel room, what she buy, the monument she visit, for according to that she was not in pain, but do not forget that this girl start working in this business in April 2015, so all the post is also to show family and friend that every things is ok, so you can not say that she was happy or not with what she did.
When the photo of her during the bukkake start to be released on putalocura she had problem with this in kiev and deleted all her account, vk, Facebook, instagram, she used to be a webcam girl for here-art but stop in the same time, then the photos was deleted from the website putalocura and the problems starts for Torbe, cancelling Bukkake etc...if there is a link it start here????
Steve put a a sex tape with her for 2 days in Dreamstash then deleted it, he says that it was on her demand but please how can this guy can afford to loose money???
She had open new one on Facebook and instagram now and show a very different life, Ukrainian boyfriend who seems to be rich and she is doing cafe business on a pyramidal scam (all this girls are fucking stupid) but she can explain to her family how she get money.
All this fact about Angela i am 100%, i check myself.

About *** i will know at the end of the coming week who really is this guy, i find a connection but it takes time.

So noone saved pictures from here Instagram vk and etc.? Sad:( And noone saved that horrible 50 guys gang-bang from Dreamstash? Sad sad sad. Or it was just a urban legend:)
Link starts @ that in April face recognition service for vk was released and there was a group of "activists" who probably had no sex EVER start finding and blackmailing pornstars and her friends. That is why Bogdana removed all here stuff. I followed 2ch.hk topics while it was happening. All those photos of "Igor" chatting to girls came from there. If it wasnt for that service she would not get in trouble. A lot of porn actresses were bullied. A lot of them erased all thir history. But some people were able to save pictures and made packs.

[Dr Proctor]

Сommon Dr Proctor! I bet Torbe sighed model releases with girls like LP,Woodman and others. All model releases are more or less the same. I think,he is just quilty of illegal immigration,because these ucranian girls are not EU passport holders and touristic visa doesn't not allow you to work. Does Woodman or LP make working visas for them? No!
All these girls came from the same pimps or managers who advertise something like 2 weeks of shooting and 1 month of escorting. So..All directors are guilty in the same way as Nacho.
http://justporno.tv/1/6052622/confessio ... n_industry
Nobody cares about Halona Vog's story but some people really insist that Nacho is a monster! It looks like Halona is a lier and ucranian girls are angels

Because every time PW or any other phorographers is asked about something he (they) has (ave) evidences (contract ID and etc) to back him up. Contract clearly states how much for what and where and why. Why Torbe didnt used contracts for own defense? If he had one!:)

[killar83]

Hello to see if with a little luck premiumbukkake.com put to work the page and we can see all these divas your videos

[olga cabaeva]

Сommon Dr Proctor! I bet Torbe sighed model releases with girls like LP,Woodman and others. All model releases are more or less the same. I think,he is just quilty of illegal immigration,because these ucranian girls are not EU passport holders and touristic visa doesn't not allow you to work. Does Woodman or LP make working visas for them? No!
All these girls came from the same pimps or managers who advertise something like 2 weeks of shooting and 1 month of escorting. So..All directors are guilty in the same way as Nacho.
http://justporno.tv/1/6052622/confessio ... n_industry
Nobody cares about Halona Vog's story but some people really insist that Nacho is a monster! It looks like Halona is a lier and ucranian girls are angels

Because every time PW or any other phorographers is asked about something he (they) has (ave) evidences (contract ID and etc) to back him up. Contract clearly states how much for what and where and why. Why Torbe didnt used contracts for own defense? If he had one!:)

Really? I shot just with 2 government ids and regular model releases where I give all rights on videos and stills to the company. Also model fee was written on it.
Did I need any contract exept of it? Or all who shoot me were wrong and didn't know how to do papers work?
As far I know Torbe does the same:ids,STD test and model releases

[krull]

Hello Dr Proctor, welcome to EBI! Thanks for posting about that Ukrainian studio, I thought that it was in Paris because that's where the escorts are then I realised they are only there temporarily so those photos are promo photos shot in the xxl studio in Kiev. If only you'd posted an hour or so before I did those damn photoshops, I'm going to be seeing that furniture everywhere from now on

The Ukrainian bukkakes were definitely meant for public release, they were advertised on PL everytime one was being held with photos. Torbe was always encouraging people to attend with prizes and such. I think that because it was indeed such an expensive endeavor that he wanted to make sure the time was right and that the hype was enough to ensure instant success (he needn't have waited so long, he had a market that no one else had done before) and that's why *** got annoyed. Maybe if he had released them sooner he wouldn't be in jail now.. who knows..

As pedro explained, a lot of the charges against Torbe often get mixed up. The Ukrainian girls were there just for the bukkake sessions which were all expenses paid for by ***, €3000 per bukkake to the total of €9000 for those that did the full 3 sessions. The claims that Torbe had sex with the Ukrainians is made only by Spanish girls, of whom most are ex-Torbe girls who he has had problems with and their credibility is highly questionable.

I very much doubt that Torbe, over 16 years in the pornography business failed to make contracts with the girls, he's said he has them to the judge and Mila also backs that up, it's not like we're going to see copies of those documents in the media so we can only assume he has entered them into the defence. The girls knew what they were doing but some didn't realise just how many guys would be there because an exact number was probably only known when the guys showed up on the day. In terms of Michelle.. there was a translation mess up with "bukkake" because she figured as is mostly the case, bukkake means the guys cum on the face not in the mouth so when she realised that it was swallowing, she was unprepared and struggled. Having said that, she did the 3 sessions, the last one especially was hard for her and Torbe decided to stop it but I assume she was paid in full. The girl that was vomiting and crying reportedly only did the 1 bukkake and was just paid for that 1 session. It isn't Mary, I was wrong that she did just 1 she did in fact do 2 sessions without issues. Still I have no idea who it is because the police wiretap was reported to be on the 24th February and Elya was recording her 4th session so to me either the media are wrong or the police are lying about that.. I don't know.

Pedro's probably right, that "Findface" thing is a wonderful tool for doing what it's meant to do but has been used to identify pornstars and expose and shame them. So if Angel B had that problem, I don't blame her for doing what she did. Btw Dreamstash scene was just a normal b/g with vg and creampie, the gangbang legend was from her time with Torbe. The comments talked about it on the PL site but they vanished at some point, it definitely exists I'm sure of it.