PremiumBukkake.com Discussion Thread

[chubakka]

Thank you olga for all this information.

About escort, prostitution is legal in Spain, Pimping is illegal. So this is the problem that have Torbe, can the Spanish law considerate him as a pimp???
You can have a brothel in Spain and you rent the room to the girls but not get a percentage from the work, difficult to see the difference i know, but it is an hour rates or a day rates for the rooms and the girls can have 10 customers in one hour the price of the room will not change, crazy i know.
If he arrange some meetings with the girls yes, even if it does not get money from the girls.

About the test for the boys to do Bukkake, this is my experience because i was curious to see what they ask for participate to one session, they asked for an id and test for sexual diseases, ok so i take an idea of my country find on internet not mine, i take and old test of mine and i change the date and the name and it was in my language all this not in Spanish. they only ask a complementary test about mushrooms that is all.
I did that because i personally know one girl and i was worried about her doing this, so i need the picture of the girls doing bukkake but i never been.

Pumping is illegal everywhere not just in Spain! And Russia together with Ucraine are well known pimp-friendly countries
https://life.ru/t/%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%81%D1 ... bordieliei
Here you have an article based on girls-pimps chats in Telegram( btw,Telegram was invented by the same guy who created vk.com)
Escort job around whole world,uderaged prostitutes for rich guys,arabic sheiks(Lol! Journalists even discovered who is Mansur),virgins,regular escort tours or tours for Forbes guys,instagram models etc.
From other side,if somebody wants to destroy any eurocompany or website like 21,ddf network,Woodman,LP etc,that's enough to let cops know they use the same managers(pimps). Torbe just did the same like many others -to book girls from managers.
Yes,I heard bukkake was shoot without regular euro standard full test. But girls also saw that kind of test the guys showed on set...Why they accepted it and after complained about bukkake?

"From other side,if somebody wants to destroy any eurocompany or website like 21,ddf network,Woodman,LP etc,that's enough to let cops know they use the same managers(pimps). Torbe just did the same like many others -to book girls from managers."

All companies book models from agent, managers, photographers, etc. Even Woodman whom try to hide his "secret people delivering to him the models" does this way, only acting is him whom find them himself walking on the streets
The only difference between him and other producers is that he is really into report the people whom work for others as well, put them in trouble when they accept offers from his competitors. He is ready to call on the phone his "competitors" , and tell them "get a good lawyer, cuz you`ll be soon in trouble cuz of working with my agent, or my ex agent. Same he did when Ricardo delivered Tricia Teen for Rocco.
Who knows who made the trouble for Torbe, but for sure someone had the right contacts this level, someone was taking him been competitor. Someone has the skills to attack from the back, smiling into your face, and the same time poisoning your life.I dont say was Woodman, but somebody verry similar to him....BTW for Woodman everybody does porn is a COMPETITOR.

[krull]

I was looking into the laws on Pornography in Ukraine and it turns out that is is all completely illegal, not just production but distribution as well:

http://zakon4.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/1296-15

That's probably why *** set up his site in the Czech Republic and opted to partner up with Torbe to film in Spain, nothing done on Ukrainian soil, no time in Ukrainian jail. I know that Ukraine is a corrupt country like some of the other post Soviet states that have struggled to adapt economically from the fall of the USSR. Still, it's easy to say that *** has to be a gangster because he's got a lot of money and allegedly has bodyguards (only said in the media, perhaps they are just associates who worked with *** ?) but maybe he actually is a friend of the Kiev mayor who was wealthy and wanted to start a pornography business? I mean after all, if he just wanted to make porn... why bukkake? Maybe he was a fan of Torbe and saw an opportunity to produce his favourite type of porn with girls from his own country. I honestly have no idea about him, since we know very little about the man as it is and he definitely is not 23 as was first reported.. so how many of the other media "facts" about him are bs too?

as you can see on the pictures of Angela she had a Spanish visa

Nope that's Milena not Angela, Angela's document is just a boarding pass from kiev to Paris.

And to finish the most funny things is the girls named Isabella who went every where on the Spanish TV to say that was horrible to work With Torbe, putalocura just put her bukkake in the front page of the website, but an old one aka Rena Reindeer.

Already been said, this girl has no credibility, witness how much in pain she was in as evil Torbe cracked his whip and gave her no choice but to make bukkakes...



She's still active in porn doing hardcore as recently as May:



Btw two other girls had old bukkakes reposted on the PL site, there is a reason for this...

About bukkake... Sometimes Torbe doesn't know himself how any guys would come there. He used to advertise in his web where and when bukkake will be...Sometimes he got a lots of guys sometimes just few ones.
I am sure girls know that they will do in Spain.

Yes you're right, the numbers were not always the same so I guess Mila had to guess an estimate of the number of guys that would show up and she got it quite wrong. Like Mitea said it doesn't appear that any of the girls have complained and all the evidence is down to alleged conversations about one girl crying and not wanting to continue (because she probably had difficulty with the task as I've said... who wouldn't honestly) and humiliation aspect is part of some types of porn anyway. If the contracts for the girls are legit and everything was signed off then there isn't a case I don't think, at the most that particular video could be pulled or something.

@killar83 that's what this thread is for! All that is known is posted here inasmuch detail as possible. Still no idea about premiumbukkake.com site, it appears as if it was under construction and then *** got arrested and it was stopped, probably only the admin of the site knows how to get access to it...

[krull]

*** declaration to the judge:

http://www.telecinco.es/elprogramadeana ... 55053.html

From what I can make out he came to Madrid because he was not happy with Torbe and that Mila was the only one who had contact with the girls directly. Someone else should try to see exactly what he said on the Spanish video...

Here's a nice propaganda article which portrays Torbe's recruitment page as making instructions for girls to post photos so he can use them to blackmail them later:

http://www.elespanol.com/espana/2016061 ... 057_0.html

There's also a transcript from one of the Police wiretaps where one of the cameramen expresses concern over filming the "crying and vomiting" girl. This article talks about them in more detail:

http://www.telecinco.es/elprogramadeana ... 55054.html

Looks like two of them got bail and another didn't, they're accused of being part of the "criminal gang" and "prostitution" plot.. how nice that those cameramen just doing their jobs are lumped in with "Torbe the master criminal". How

many other people have no job now because of this? Not just camera operators but makeup/hair artists, video editors, record keepers probably getting accused of being part of this "major crime network" as well. What a mess...

[pedro212]

First Angela had a tourist visa the photo of the envelope from the Spanish embassy came of her old instagram account.

OK from the Spanish news:
*** is involved in human traffic for sexual exploitation, money laundry and organization criminal.
*** said that he was not involved in nothing, that he was not happy with Torbe so that is why he came to Spain. First he says that he never gave money to Torbe and he was not the investor, he had no contact we the girls in anyway and he was not the one who recruits them in Ukraine. He was just involved in creating a website based in Czech as a consultant. So *** is putting everything on Torbe and Mila. He was just a consultant??
For the police all this is not true and he is the boss, so for the police he is lying.

Mila was the one who recruits the girls and take care of them... Tobre and *** put most of everything on her.

Torbe said that it is not illegal to have a bank account in a foreign country,Torbe also said that the football players want to meet girls so he introduce the girls to the football player but what happens after was not is responsibility and he did not know about it, he also said to Maria laprieda, that there is more football players involved and important persons but the police does not want to listen to him so he is going to make a big scandal. he never get money for the meetings with the football player, and he is innocent of all.
Second about the girls who did bukkake for the Spanish girls it was 400€ for 30 guys involved in, and only 250€ if she can not drink all, she also said that yes it was not a lot of money but torbe never forced them, and Torbe said about Ukrainian girls that they get 9 000€ for 3 bukkake, and the one who is a witness against him only did 1 bukkake si she only get 3 000€, because she did not want to do more...

I think it will be interesting to hear what Mila tell to the police??

Ok so Torbe, *** and Mila are charge about human traffic for sexual exploitation with the Ukrainian girls and it is about Bukkake not prostitution, there is at least one Ukrainian girls who is a witness and they came to Spain without knowing what they were going to do and they were forced to do it. So the video will never been released.
Torbe and *** are involved in money laundry in honk kong to finance the human traffic.
Torbe, *** and Mila are involved in criminal organization, meaning that they had connection with the mafia???
Torbe only is involved in prostitution but it concerns the football players and maybe more but only for Spanish girls.

http://www.elmundo.es/cronica/2016/06/2 ... b4640.html
http://www.telecinco.es/elprogramadeana ... 30052.html
http://www.abc.es/deportes/futbol/abci- ... ticia.html

[pedro212]

I forget there is now 10 persons involved in all this, cameraman, producers of putalocura etc.....

[krull]

First Angela had a tourist visa the photo of the envelope from the Spanish embassy came of her old instagram account.

Oh sorry yeah I forgot about the package, so that's the visa then? Thanks.

Seems like he could be lying for sure, but I don't trust what the Police say in all this either. He says he was not happy with Torbe, this was because the videos were taking too long to release (and loads of members were complaining on the site about having to wait to long for the releases) as Mitea said.

The Ukrainian girl was mentioned earlier because she was not happy with the money she got even though she didn't get the full amount because she did not complete all the bukkakes. I see Torbe said he was aware of her crying and vomiting because it was a hard scene, exactly as I believed it to be so and that he stopped the filming because of it. The only girls to do 1 bukkake were Kira, Mary and Katy... all the others did 2 or more. I don't think it can be Kira, given such a happy dance after her session, here again for clarity:

https://new.vk.com/video36432055_456239018

So it has to be either Mary or Katy. On the chronicles, Michelle's second bukkake was reportedly stopped because she was having a hard time but again, she did 3 so it can't be her. The police's apparent wiretap of that "crying/vomiting" was reported to be 24th February but that can't be right because Elya was recording her 4th session then... Of course the media are talking about this as if all the girls were all forced now and mixing up facts from the other charges against Torbe saying some of the Ukrainian girls were minors.. idiots!

I think that the police honestly believe that Torbe, *** and Mila are THE criminal organisation and that the porn business is just a front...

Btw.. I wonder what kind of lawyer Torbe has, he's talked about having multiple ones in the past apparently, hopefully he has good legal representation in all of this, he's going to need it...

[almagr]

Torbe, *** and Mila were arrested when Katy was there. I think she's the only Ukrainian girl which the police was able to get. I'm not sure she's a witness, but she was interrogated by the police. I think she's trying to whitewash herself.

[killar83]

Ukrainian girls of *** bkk charge 3000 euros per BKK so there was no na da treat human beings, another thing is that there are other stories to solve ...

[killar83]

certainly no one has seen any premium Bkk I really think that *** did not have time to hang it on the web

[krull]

Torbe, *** and Mila were arrested when Katy was there. I think she's the only Ukrainian girl which the police was able to get. I'm not sure she's a witness, but she was interrogated by the police. I think she's trying to whitewash herself.

Interesting I didn't know this, we tracked her VK statuses and found she was in Madrid from 20th-25th and then turned up in Turkey on the 29th. Well then that only leaves Mary unless there are some other girls we don't know about but I doubt it...

Ukrainian girls of *** bkk charge 3000 euros per BKK so there was no na da treat human beings, another thing is that there are other stories to solve ...

Sorry I don't understand what you meant here...

certainly no one has seen any premium Bkk I really think that *** did not have time to hang it on the web

Which ironically is why *** came to see Torbe, because the videos were not being finished soon enough to be uploaded. Had Torbe been quicker, then we might have had at least some of the videos in the public domain but I guess he just wanted to be thorough, given how top of the range and unique this material is... unfortunately that backfired... People on the PL forums claim to have seen the videos somewhere but you have to take everything said on there with a very large chunk of salt...

Latest article here talks about Torbe running a secret massage parlour in Barcelona where one of the witnesses claims she was forced to be a prostitute:

http://www.telecinco.es/elprogramadeana ... 30113.html

Seems like yet more bs from TP3...

[almagr]

Well then that only leaves Mary unless there are some other girls we don't know about but I doubt it...

I don't think it's Mary. Why Mary? She did two scenes successfully and returned to Ukraine very happy

certainly no one has seen any premium Bkk I really think that *** did not have time to hang it on the web

I think the same

[olga cabaeva]

First Angela had a tourist visa the photo of the envelope from the Spanish embassy came of her old instagram account.

Oh sorry yeah I forgot about the package, so that's the visa then?

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Spanish touristic visa! You can't work with it anywhere in EU.You must have EU passport or at least residence card(visa). I am not sure but I heard British student visa is allowed to work several hours a week,but,for example,hungarian student visa-not! Any way,any touristic shengen visa , Spanish or Polish or whatever,couldnot be used for work. That's why,probably,problems with immigration

[olga cabaeva]

many other people have no job now because of this? Not just camera operators but makeup/hair artists, video editors, record keepers probably getting accused of being part of this "major crime network" as well. What a mess...

Don't forget webcaming girls! They earned between 500-3000€ by month with Nacho. Also he had relationship with music studio(-s) and mainstream movies world. He is Santiago Segura's good friend.

[pedro212]

All the Ukrainians girls had a touristic Visa, they went to Spain for the Bukkake, and they get paid in cash, this is also why they charged in human traffic.

In regards of european laws to bring someone to do illegal work in the EU (working with a tourist visa in this case), even if the girls agreed can be considerate as a human traffic.

I hope for all the girls that the police will not find her real names because in that case they can be blacklisted for every kind of Schengen visa and not allowed to come back in western Europe for a long time.....

[olga cabaeva]

All the Ukrainians girls had a touristic Visa, they went to Spain for the Bukkake, and they get paid in cash, this is also why they charged in human traffic.

In regards of european laws to bring someone to do illegal work in the EU (working with a tourist visa in this case), even if the girls agreed can be considerate as a human traffic.

I hope for all the girls that the police will not find her real names because in that case they can be blacklisted for every kind of Schengen visa and not allowed to come back in western Europe for a long time.....

LoL! Julmodels with AR bring girls since summer 2009 and everyone knows about it,but Torbe charged as a monster!
Also Latzi(Rumanian guy) did the same with Rumanian girls in Budapest,taking his 50% from their jobs. I am not sure if Rumania was in EU at that moment.
Police already got their legal names because if they have videos they also have Id shoots and model releases. These ucranian girls work for pimps ,so,new documents,even new name would not be problem for them. There are a lots people on Vk , Telegram or escort forums offering quickly paper work even if you have permanent ban from any country.
MV was arrested for drug traffic in USA and she travels after that without any problem.