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[badluckTorbe]

Some conversation to do with Black Panther (Linda)...

Not with Black Panther. With her friend.
(O)wl, (Y)ana
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(Y)Got any more of these?
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(Y)I'm interested, where did you get these photos?
(O)So I see how you are not interested at all, and you don't know anything (I presume she denied everything before). Is your organisation ordering you to know about these photos?
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I think you've noticed, that this guy is an admin of VK group. He is doing his best to find out the truth about Ukrainian sessions.

[krull]

Yes I see they run that page, and they're doing a great job trying to dig for information, not all is as it seems via "the trial by media" it's clear. Thanks again for translation.

In between the Ukrainian girls, Torbe got a new Spanish chick called Nicole. Her two bukkakes were some of the best ever made apparently!



Instagram photo of Elya doing one of her bukkakes back in September:

[badluckTorbe]

Yes I see they run that page, and they're doing a great job trying to dig for information, not all is as it seems via "the trial by media" it's clear.

With all the info... At least this line from RT:

brings Ukrainian women to Spain to shoot pornographic scenes, often against their will.

can't be true. Also words of Olga Cabaeva who worked with him in 2008.

Instagram photo of Elya doing one of her bukkakes back in September:

wow DAT ASS

[aaaaalx]

Something strange with Katy! She had posted photos from Ukraine airport 18th april, from Spain 20th and 25th april. But on the 29th april photo was from turkish resort!

[aaaaalx]

The other girls didn't hang around so many time without work! They have arrived just the day before shootings, or something like this

[Robin]

Damn... these ukrainians girls are golden!!

[aaaaalx]

I found that in url string of the bukkake for Katy set not 29th of april as in the title, but 19th april!

[krull]

Well spotted aaaaalx, I was thinking that was making a whole lot of sense!

This is a very significant development, Torbe is speaking out via a third party on his Facebook, take a look:



That last statement makes a good point, in my country the details of a case like this would only be revealed upon conviction of the accused never when the case is still waiting to go to trial so are the police giving out details unlawfully? I have no idea how Spanish system works but I know that there is issues with corruption like anywhere, it looks like the Police or journalists are lying about some of the details imho.

It has been brought to my attention that in this photo of Monro, you can clearly see something:



You can see part of her video in the background! So she took a selfie whilst one of the videos was being edited which she must have known was going on. Hmmm.

Message for "Hope": I had this problem, resend the confirmation email and you should be good!

[Robin]

I don't understand how a veteran in this biz like Torbe could to be associated with an ukrainian gangster.

*** Malynovsky

http://www.elespanol.com/espana/20160611/131737167_0.html

[krull]

Well I just saw this "article", sensationalist to the max written to anger even the most muted of readers (Torbe Hell... really). The word "forced" appears 5 times... forced to goto Spain, forced to fuck, forced to drink sperm and vomit on camera, forced to stand in the Putalocura bathroom and take a selfie... sigh. What is "extreme porn"? Porn is a lot of things, I mean how do you people think of DAP/TAP legalporno style? The girl must have been forced to do it because no girl would do that.. Seriously, according to the "journalists" this is Torbe:

He also assured that all the girls were Russian or Ukrainian and performed recording intoxicated. "Some of them at the sight of all men participating in the bukake began to drink to make the recording."

Another witness in the case supports this statement to ensure that the "Russian girls" drank a lot of alcohol, especially when they saw the number of bukakeros, around 100 in most cases.

Alina turned up drunk on set for her second recording session, that was reported... none of the other girls were and even if so, Ukrainians/Russians like their alcohol no? That's a cliche but it's true.

I do not know about *** though, Maybe you are right that Torbe had problems and that he thought partnership would save his business. I read in some other articles that it was reported Torbe was threatened when he wanted to stop having anymore girls from Ukraine or something. I do not know what to believe in this media circus anymore, I hope that Torbe has more of a voice via Facebook so we can get some idea of what his take on events is...

[mitea]

I'm from Spain and i have been following this Torbe case and is very strange. They are mixing different things here, the worst thing i would say is the recording of an underage girl he did last year, he says she had fake id but her father discovered it and went to police, that would be when the ukranians were starting to come.

Today i heard in TV that this *** guy had arranged to bring 30 ukranian girls to Spain, so he still had like 20 left, and also i heard this bukkakes were for a new website *** was setting up and the profits were going to be 50-50 with Torbe, it makes sense since this is super unique content, just a website with this bukkakes would make a lot of money, maybe that's why Torbe just promoted the bukakkes and never posted anything, i wonder what happened with all these videos, hope the police don't destroy them

I heard also today that it was one of the first ukranian girls who came that filed a report agaist Torbe, it seems they didn't pay her the right amount or anything at all, and also she thought she was just coming to have sex, it's very strange these girls seem to be the kind of escorts that make this countries tours in expenseive hotels, maybe they paid for a week and managed to get 3 bukakkes? it's just amazing, im very curious to know how they convinced these amazing ukranian girls to do 100 men bukkakes, even if they got paid 3000 euros it's cheap, and a website with 100 unique and pretty girls doing this would make a lot of profit.
Or maybe it was for some private network of this *** guy, i think that's what they were told, i just can't belive this girls knew this was going up on a public website.

One of Torbe's friends, Maria Lapiedra, said today that Torbe told her everything is legal and he has all the papers for the girls and it was just this underage girl, not related with the ukranians, that tricked him with a fake id, also he told the police think *** is some gangster, he says he is just very wealthy guy, i think he is still in jail but im not sure.

And about Torbe wanting to stop working with the ukranians and *** threatening him is not right, in the conversation *** was urging Torbe to deliver the videos faster because he was getting delayed and also he got upset when he learnt one of Torbe's co-workers had left due to stress.

[Am0rIn0]

it's just amazing, im very curious to know how they convinced these amazing ukranian girls to do 100 men bukkakes, even if they got paid 3000 euros it's cheap, and a website with 100 unique and pretty girls doing this would make a lot of profit.

Some nice words that "no one will see it" and of course cash. thats all you need. 3000 eur is an average yearly income in ukraine. there is such an oversupply of escorts these days they are happy about every client.

[krull]

Thanks mitea, it's always good to get a perspective from people who live in Spain and are more used to how things are so to speak.

So it looks like this has come about because the father found out what this girl has done? This seems similar to what happened in 2006 only other charges have been brought and it's a whole lot more serious. In that earlier situation as Robin pointed out, the girl didn't even have ID and he got off, so if it just a case of fake ID, then she duped him and as long as the video is never uploaded to PL (it was found on an internal server) that *should* be the conclusion.

First girl to do 3 was Elya, whose performance was excellent according to those that attended, the same girl who came back to do another 3 in February/March and also the girl who was recording when the police claim they tapped the building on the 24th and the girl was "crying, crying, crying". Maybe it wasn't her who had the issue, Lola did 3 in October so it could have been her but again, she performed well and swallowed everything without problems (one user described her stomach as "bomb proof"). Can you please post the link where you heard that story, it might help to see who it might have been. It's significant because none of the Ukrainians have made any complaints to my knowledge (all the witnesses are from Spain). We discussed reasons why they might do it, for some it is for money I'm sure but others where money doesn't seem to be an issue, a cum fetish is probably one of the reasons because swallowing that much is not something that any girl can do and these girls performed *very* well. Girls must have known about being on the website, Monro posted a selfie in front of computer screens as her video was being edited. Media will have you believe they knew nothing and that it was all "forced" but I do not buy it one bit.

If he has the papers then that is evidence for his defence, it's good to see that people are helping him get his perspective out like on Facebook, he certainly still has friends who don't buy into the charges against him.

*** could just be a rich Ukrainian guy who wanted to make bukkake porn it's true, I mean Ukraine and Russia has big problems with corruption so it is common to assume that those with lots of money must be a gangster or something. I'm not so sure though, an ordinary joe doesn't usually need 5 bodyguards...

My mistake, Google is not the most reliable way to translate and read the Spanish articles so it's easy to get things wrong. Certainly it would have been good to get the videos moving faster, perhaps if they had been released sooner, Torbe wouldn't have gone to prison, who knows.

Btw similarly to what Am0rIn0 has said that it is not "politically correct" but I think that this case is going the way it is because there are a load of women in the police operation, the prosecution and judicary and they have no concept of the porn industry. All you need now is a mostly women jury at a trial and Torbe is going down...

[krull]

Oh yes about the videos, if the police have them (I'm sure they do, since they raided the studios) at the moment they are possibly being used as evidence. I don't know if they would be shown in court at a trial (can you imagine?!) but I believe (I'm not sure on this so people can correct me) they are the property of Putalocura and the authors who made them, so the police cannot destroy them. Only if it can be proven that they were made with the "actresses" where they were genuinely not consenting to perform the material can they be held onto indefinitely, otherwise they have to be given back to the owners. Torbe says he has all valid papers so I assume that means release documents about the videos as well. Imho no one was "forced" to do anything, they probably struggled to complete the "tasks" which is understandable given the material that was being produced, but most performed very well in the chronicles from the bukkakes.

I will hopefully be able to post those properly soon btw, Robin is helping with the translation of the Spanish so we can see just what was said without any mistakes but from what I've read, again I say that there were no significant reports of irregular activities. Despite the "crying" claim, the girl performed again on another day and it was said to be a success without issue. Again I'm not in the industry, so others may be able to comment on who owns the videos and what happens to them but I don't believe they would be destroyed unless it was illegal material (child porn, beastiality or something).

[mitea]

Everything i wrote it's what i heard in TV programms, they are giving much attention to this now that the footballers history broke.

It dosen't look good for Torbe at least from the TV perspective, he is getting such a bad image, there are some ex-torbe girls telling that they were exploited, paid very bad, lived in very bad conditions, there were no proper medical tests, one of them said she was in the bukkakes with the ukranians and they were forced and threatened to finish, but you know with this ex Torbe girls you can't trust them 100% they will say anything for some TV time, she also said the ukranians had burn cigarrettes marks in them, this is why i don't give ex-torbe girls much credibility, much of the info on the ukranians being forced come from Torbe girls that were there, although they dont understand russian, but they say they were crying, vomiting, and weren't allowed to stop

So they mix all this explotation of Torbe girls with the ukranians, the history you hear about the ukranians in TV is that they knew they were coming to do porn but when they arrived they were forced to do these mega bukkakes, this ex torbe girl also said Torbe then fucked them at his house, but i don't know that's just anecdotic

Also they said two more underage girls had come with the same history as the other underage girl, so this for Torbe looks very bad.

All this has come out beacuse last October Torbe uploaded a very small teaser of a girl, just like 10 seconds showing her breats, but this video got so popular that the girl got identified and it turned she was underage, they went to te the police and in her declaration she said she heard Torbe talking in the phone about a lot of ukranians coming to record videos, and also it seems Torbe made a video with her but never released it

I thought all the witness were from Spain but today i heard "Protected witness number 10", they are growing fast as you can see, maybe they are trying to contact all of them now, that was an ukranian who only had 30 euros/month scholarship, and that she signed something but didn't know what was it

As for this new website they said every Bukkake cost 9000 euros, *** paid everything, Torbe recorded and gave all the rights and ownership to *** company in Czech Republic or something like this, they are talking as if some videos were already out there

The female TV presenters are scandalized they would send Torbe to jail only for the Bukkakes even if the girls agreed

The charges against Torbe are:
-Underage pornography
-Human trafficking
-Tax evasion
-Money laundering