Joleyn Burst

[xraynuovo]

because this is of course a bad move for her career (and against companies like LP, PerfectGonzo etc)

Really?

I've rather got the feeling, that if babes turn up at LP, their career isn't working out that well (anymore). Of course, there are exceptions, but in general, it seems like that.

[Pierre Woodman]

Thankfully there are girls who have a brain for themselves like Amirah who is now very successful in the US and did choose her own career path.

Yes after starting with me ( DP the first day ) and been anal exclusive during 18 months ( she was Ricardo girlfriend ) ...
I think the list of girl having started with me and become famous in porn is longer than the Golden Gate bridge ... But at the moment, after 3 years LP started in Prague, I don't see any name started with them been on top chart of porn industry.
I wish Joleyn Burst having a carrer more like Little Caprice, Alexis Crystal or Rose Delight than Lucianna Karel who has no work now out of LP because people can't sale any product with her anymore after all what she did for them.
When a girl shoot for me, it's a school just showing her skill about sex and all porn business wish her after ( like Joleyn Burst or Abrill Gerald actually ), but when a girl shoot for LP it's also a school where she get a degree for been employed at ... Barnum !!!
And me when a girl start with LP, like Timea Antala for instance, they got that kind of answer :

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PW

[Bobx]

Interesting what Pierre Woodman say. Looks to me the agents working for him have good eyes, or smelling to find girls with good skills for porn. Woodman is no doubt very strict in his beliefs, but Amirah as I know was exclusive for 18 months because she retired after casting for more of a year. She had drug problems concerning to what was written on woodman forum. After that break she immediately made anal and dp for others. She made dozens of scenes for Legal Porno. She owes her fame more to Legal Porno, than to a website is releasing 1 scene in 3 years cutted in pieces. The pirates make them famous. I know it's painful, but true.

[Bobx]

Taking a career advice from PW almost always turns to be a bad decision for a starting model. PW wants to make the model as exclusive as possible for himself, taking all the money from people who want to see her, but very limiting a model's options for a good career. Thankfully there are girls who have a brain for themselves like Amirah who is now very successful in the US and did choose her own career path.

Seems like Amirah find out everything about Woodman's teaching during the time spent with Ricardo. Then chosen the right way. Smart girl.
I believe this Woodman concept is against everything. Career for models, their agents, desires of porn fans, wishes of his website members, all what could make others out of him to be satisfied. And he's so fuckn proud of himself.

[Pierre Woodman]

Amirah started with me in 2010 and went at LP in 2013 for first time ...
She didn't stop her career for drug problem, she was working for a period like that and then became serious. It's her work in America who make her bigger but for sure not LP.
The name LP sound very bad for most US agencies. For instance Adrianna Chechik's agent refused let her go to LP ... and the few US girls having work with LP like Bonny Rotten did it by themself out of their agencies.
Mark Speigler was not happy at all of that choice, he told me this himself ...
Also in america they have more brain than in Europe, for instance only few people knows but the Manwin/MindGeek group wanted control all the blood test place and started to push models and agencies to go only in their places.
But Manwin/MindGeek with Brazzer and all tube it's like Xvideos, a porn business destroyers, and all agencies started to fight against this idea and finaly they win ! Today everyone must go to TTS ( talents Testing Service ) which is neutral ! Actually they start a new fight again MindGeek and are trying to limit the number of girls given to Brazzer and all company attached to this people because they consider they just simply kill the porn business. I dream European agencies could do the same but unfortunately in Europe, nobody really care. When I spoke with some agents they said : "don't worry no one of my girls go to LP, and then when I cross their girls again they said their agency send them there" because the money of the present is more important for them than the money of the future ...

The pornstar Stoya has explained much better than me a part of the problem :
http://graphicdescriptions.com/28-tubes ... -of-piracy

The interest of all business is the diversity, when someone start to have a real monopole it's a dictature and nothing can progress.

PW

[horndogger]

Amirah started with me in 2010 and went at LP in 2013 for first time ...
She didn't stop her career for drug problem, she was working for a period like that and then became serious. It's her work in America who make her bigger but for sure not LP.
The name LP sound very bad for most US agencies. For instance Adrianna Chechik's agent refused let her go to LP ... and the few US girls having work with LP like Bonny Rotten did it by themself out of their agencies.
Mark Speigler was not happy at all of that choice, he told me this himself ...
Also in america they have more brain than in Europe, for instance only few people knows but the Manwin/MindGeek group wanted control all the blood test place and started to push models and agencies to go only in their places.
But Manwin/MindGeek with Brazzer and all tube it's like Xvideos, a porn business destroyers, and all agencies started to fight against this idea and finaly they win ! Today everyone must go to TTS ( talents Testing Service ) which is neutral ! Actually they start a new fight again MindGeek and are trying to limit the number of girls given to Brazzer and all company attached to this people because they consider they just simply kill the porn business. I dream European agencies could do the same but unfortunately in Europe, nobody really care. When I spoke with some agents they said : "don't worry no one of my girls go to LP, and then when I cross their girls again they said their agency send them there" because the money of the present is more important for them than the money of the future ...

The pornstar Stoya has explained much better than me a part of the problem :
http://graphicdescriptions.com/28-tubes ... -of-piracy

The interest of all business is the diversity, when someone start to have a real monopole it's a dictature and nothing can progress.

PW

Pierre, speaking with you is like talking to a 10 year old kid who can't seem to understand basic concepts. You will be hard pressed to find anyone who will disagree with you when it comes to finding new talent, and introducing them to the porn business. Interviews with countless stars over and over say things like "Pierre Woodman is excellent" ... Kitty Jane interview. You have introduced more girls than all other companies combined, from old days feature shooters like Salieri, Allessandro Del Mar, to gonzo legends Christoph and Rocco, right down to new companies like LP all the way to X-Art. You get the most beautiful girls, get them 1st, hardcore anal, always have ..... so what's the problem ? Why is your website driving lower numbers than any of your competitors ? Because Pierre, you don't have a set or studio, you shoot in hotel rooms with handycams. You don't have picture galleries, the majority of your stuff is POV staring you, a 52 year old director turned performer. You don't have BTS, and refuse to upload any new material.

Ok, all those things are forgivable ... the real problem is Pierre you simply sit on content for years, your release schedule is pathetic, there are close to 100 castings that need to be updated on your site. Can you honestly, with a straight face, sit here and tell the porn consumer it's okay to wait for scenes up to 6 years ? Do you think it's reasonable to have 150 scenes including castings promised and not delivered ? Holy shit man, 100 "to be continued" it's laughable. So when you say "all the models start with me" .. you should add "and I will release their castings over 5 years, promise them over and over, delays after delays, never hire an editor or assistant" .... that's your quote buddy !!

[Sexysim40]

Some members are obsessed by PIERRE WOODMAN.
PIERRE WOODMAN was far from EBI, but discussions about it continued.
The topic of Abrill Gerald was blocked this weekend, because it started a long discussion about PIERRE WOODMAN.
This topic is about Joleyn Burst, but you are talking about PIERRE WOODMAN.
EBI should create a topic called PIERRE WOODMAN, where these discussions should be posted.

[Bobx]

Some members are obsessed by PIERRE WOODMAN.
PIERRE WOODMAN was far from EBI, but discussions about it continued.
The topic of Abrill Gerald was blocked this weekend, because it started a long discussion about PIERRE WOODMAN.
This topic is about Joleyn Burst, but you are talking about PIERRE WOODMAN.
EBI should create a topic called PIERRE WOODMAN, where these discussions should be posted.

Yes, but since Pierre stopped Joleyn, we don't have much to talk about...Woodman replaced her.

[Bobx]

Pierre, speaking with you is like talking to a 10 year old kid who can't seem to understand basic concepts. You will be hard pressed to find anyone who will disagree with you when it comes to finding new talent, and introducing them to the porn business. Interviews with countless stars over and over say things like "Pierre Woodman is excellent" ... Kitty Jane interview. You have introduced more girls than all other companies combined, from old days feature shooters like Salieri, Allessandro Del Mar, to gonzo legends Christoph and Rocco, right down to new companies like LP all the way to X-Art. You get the most beautiful girls, get them 1st, hardcore anal, always have ..... so what's the problem ? Why is your website driving lower numbers than any of your competitors ? Because Pierre, you don't have a set or studio, you shoot in hotel rooms with handycams. You don't have picture galleries, the majority of your stuff is POV staring you, a 52 year old director turned performer. You don't have BTS, and refuse to upload any new material.

Ok, all those things are forgivable ... the real problem is Pierre you simply sit on content for years, your release schedule is pathetic, there are close to 100 castings that need to be updated on your site. Can you honestly, with a straight face, sit here and tell the porn consumer it's okay to wait for scenes up to 6 years ? Do you think it's reasonable to have 150 scenes including castings promised and not delivered ? Holy shit man, 100 "to be continued" it's laughable. So when you say "all the models start with me" .. you should add "and I will release their castings over 5 years, promise them over and over, delays after delays, never hire an editor or assistant" .... that's your quote buddy !!

Haha, he 's waiting models get married. Releasing the scenes when they already want to forgot the past makes Woodman happy.

[Sexysim40]

Some members are obsessed by PIERRE WOODMAN.
PIERRE WOODMAN was far from EBI, but discussions about it continued.
The topic of Abrill Gerald was blocked this weekend, because it started a long discussion about PIERRE WOODMAN.
This topic is about Joleyn Burst, but you are talking about PIERRE WOODMAN.
EBI should create a topic called PIERRE WOODMAN, where these discussions should be posted.

Yes, but since Pierre stopped Joleyn, we don't have much to talk about...Woodman replaced her.

She did not stop. Just decided to do other work.
Pornography is not only anal.
Many girls dream of making this type of X-Art work.
Try to comply with her decision, other girls will appear.

[stingray_rd]

Gentlemen,

this topic is about Joleyn.
This constant bashing detroys a lot of the excellent information we want to share here.

If PW has 10 years of material to release and will work at his incredible pace the next ten years, then his website can exist twenty years from now.
One day I said to me, that I will collect all his private casting-movies. The amount of stuff in his website is exceeding that by an unbelievable extent and we should be happy, that he shares it with us as far as he can.

"As far as he can" means in this context making life for pirates difficult and keeping things interesting by "to be continued". If he would not do it, it would be boring. You need to create interest.
It is not about making as many scenes as possible and making as much profit is possible. Or the maximum gape (Oh, poor pamper girls.... there are natural limits and anyone not taking care of that is... well... an asshole.)
It is about passion and emotions and that's why it is one of the very few websites I never regretted joining.
I appreciate horndogger's ambition in a way and his insights in the internet business were very interesting. But Pierre's website (and life) concept is not about numbers and growth in revenue. I would wish a world, in which this is the case for much more matters.

We should be fair in our judgement.

I am not interested in the private wars anyone is doing here. I am interested in Joleyn. Does anybody know, for which company she has filmed this long Easter weekend?

Last off-topic post in this thread from me.

Joleyn as Veronica C. for Euronudes.

http://www.euronudes.com/girlsoverview/free.php?nude=N2VkZDViMjM1&set=c2V0MQ,,

[Frovol]

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[casanova05]

[shark1]

She has done 3 anal scenes, but only 2 are watchable - teenanalcasting and anal-beauty. Her woodman scene nearly put me to sleep with absolutely nothing but condom fucking and horribly shot anal sex.

[ragingboner]

She has done 3 anal scenes, but only 2 are watchable - teenanalcasting and anal-beauty. Her woodman scene nearly put me to sleep with absolutely nothing but condom fucking and horribly shot anal sex.

Just a matter of opinion then. I enjoyed that(and alot of his other work).