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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby paroxysmia on Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:21 am

Resistance is futile.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby rodin on Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:14 am

I'm a fan of Pierre's, but if he wanted to try this strategy, he should have done it with a different video. If you expect people to pay this kind of money for a single scene, it's simply not fair to penalize them and renege on your promises just so that it will be marginally more difficult for internet pirates to steal your content, which you were already paid handsomely for.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Pierre Woodman on Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:49 am

Resistance is futile.


My entire life is a resistance to the system and I will die this way !!!

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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby tittyleist on Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:44 am

Pierre Woodman wrote:I don't think he wanted said "available" but "famous " worldwide, which are two different things !!!

BTW, for those who have still not understood what I did with Viola bailey's video, here is one of the best films hackers place and you can see the result :
http://boards.4chan.org/r/thread/135312 ... ting-scene

Since two days I have relaxed the level of security and maybe some people will arrive to steal it now because I don't really care anymore, but I also found a way to block piracy and it's just a begining, it will be perfectionned in future.

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LoL ... sorry, no offence, but I would hardly call 4chan "one of the best films hackers place". It's just a hang out place for otaku.

Pierre, I like your work, and will always support the stuff you put out that suit my taste, but please, don't make silly statements like that. Let's not talk about the serious hackers, just the leisure "for the fun of it" hacker would be able to quietly slip in and lift out the viola casting video. It's a question of "want to or not" instead of "able to or not". It's not already made available "to the public" only out of respect for the content creator's livelihood.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Pierre Woodman on Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:14 am

You're right but I wanted said "thief hachers" the real one doesn't care of porn videos and fight for "noble" cause !!!

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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby paroxysmia on Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:34 pm

Pierre Woodman wrote:
Resistance is futile.


My entire life is a resistance to the system and I will die this way !!!

PW

You didn't get the meme, as you probably didn't get 4chan. But whatever.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Fakedoor on Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:54 pm

Pierre Woodman wrote:I don't think he wanted said "available" but "famous " worldwide, which are two different things !!!

BTW, for those who have still not understood what I did with Viola bailey's video, here is one of the best films hackers place and you can see the result :
http://boards.4chan.org/r/thread/135312 ... ting-scene

Since two days I have relaxed the level of security and maybe some people will arrive to steal it now because I don't really care anymore, but I also found a way to block piracy and it's just a begining, it will be perfectionned in future.

PW


:lol: :lol: :lol: I can tell by this post you have absolutely no idea about what a pirate board is...trust me chan is a public board where all young punks and teens hangout..so if you think Viola´s casting will be posted there in a near future you are way out of the road my friend. Once again I will not mention the board but the good pirate boards we all know where they are and what´s their names and it´s not Xvideos or streaming porhubs..no; they are not even in english lenaguage and as I said it will be or already is in dl option torrent for many people,so No your Goal to succed on this failed, as I mentioned earlier many members and fans on your site have felt dissapointed with this system from what I could read, but if you think it´s not this way I totally respect your side of the table.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby makker on Sat Jul 11, 2015 4:59 pm

Real hardcore hackers especially the black hat ones are unstoppable, whatever you throw against them. No anti-piracy or anti hacker defense will help against them. These ultra smart guys could make people's life real miserable. Look at that Hacking Team company, whose dirty secrets now have leaked out and all the Chinese/Russian hacks and not least the NSA guys (Snowden revelations). These guys don't recognize any laws and do what they want. Better not wake them up.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Pierre Woodman on Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:54 pm

They like me and have better to do !!! I told you real hackers are not interested by stealing porn videos they fight for high level things and are not piece of shit little thiefs of my balls !!!
Any normal and correct person doesn't steal anything to anyone !!!

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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby pervmann2000 on Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:00 pm

Hackers don't give a shit about that video...they just grabb youre db and post passes from it and than they are of to an other site to grabb the db and post passes again..that's theire kick not the content of the site...
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Am0rIn0 on Sat Jul 11, 2015 6:19 pm

david-perfectgonzo wrote: but people who want to pirate will not become loyal customers on my sites just because I force them to. They want to be pirates by choice, for many of them it's a philosophical choice I believe.



A famous argument but only partially true. There are different client segments, a significant part for sure will never ever pay for porn out of philosophy.

But there is a segment of clients who only pay if they have to. If they get that scene for free they will not pay. If they dont get that scene for free they will pay to get it.

Here is a non-representative poll, but it gives a direction how people think:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22458&hilit=paying+porn
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby ragingboner on Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:20 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:
Here is a non-representative poll, but it gives a direction how people think:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22458&hilit=paying+porn


As you said, that is such a small sample size there is honestly not that much you can take from it. But yes, there is definitely something about that, atleast in my opinion. If someone can't get it for free, it's entirely plausible they will pay for it
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby david-perfectgonzo on Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:50 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:But there is a segment of clients who only pay if they have to. If they get that scene for free they will not pay. If they dont get that scene for free they will pay to get it.

Here is a non-representative poll, but it gives a direction how people think:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22458&hilit=paying+porn

I like the segmentation you suggest, it makes logical sense. I doubt they will pay for one scene though -- few are likely to pay $30 for one scene at a subscription site. However, I have a good percentage of customers who join for a month, download the last 50 or so scenes, and come back half a year later and do the same. Fair game to me.

At the end of the day we can forget about enticing people to pay money who are willing to spend ours of surfing around sharers forums and torrent sites. The added value we can offer is simply more user friendliness. Just like anyone can get a stolen version of Windows or the Adobe tools off the torrents but if I buy them I know they will just work out of the box and I don't end up ours installing little cracks and activators. I exchange valuable time for a little money. 17 year old highschool kids have tons of time on their hands to surf around forums with half-dead links and they have very little money. IMO a waste of time to convince them to pay for porn. Once they work and have their hands full with a 80 hour week some of them might come around :lol:
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby andypandy on Sun Jul 12, 2015 8:18 am

david-perfectgonzo wrote:
Am0rIn0 wrote:But there is a segment of clients who only pay if they have to. If they get that scene for free they will not pay. If they dont get that scene for free they will pay to get it.

Here is a non-representative poll, but it gives a direction how people think:

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=22458&hilit=paying+porn

I like the segmentation you suggest, it makes logical sense. I doubt they will pay for one scene though -- few are likely to pay $30 for one scene at a subscription site. However, I have a good percentage of customers who join for a month, download the last 50 or so scenes, and come back half a year later and do the same. Fair game to me.

At the end of the day we can forget about enticing people to pay money who are willing to spend ours of surfing around sharers forums and torrent sites. The added value we can offer is simply more user friendliness. Just like anyone can get a stolen version of Windows or the Adobe tools off the torrents but if I buy them I know they will just work out of the box and I don't end up ours installing little cracks and activators. I exchange valuable time for a little money. 17 year old highschool kids have tons of time on their hands to surf around forums with half-dead links and they have very little money. IMO a waste of time to convince them to pay for porn. Once they work and have their hands full with a 80 hour week some of them might come around :lol:


In lines do you suggest that smart people never pay and search for free and stupid ones because of friendliness of paid service they pay?
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby pplolo on Sun Jul 12, 2015 11:37 am

In lines do you suggest that smart people never pay and search for free and stupid one because of friendliness of paid service they pay?

He said it is not question of money but of time value.It is stupid to waste your time getting something for "free" (time value) if you have enough money to pay for it.


I totally agree with that.

Plus piracy is like the most targeted advertising you could get .If you deny it,you are getting away from 70% of your potential customers
and you will have to spend a lot in advertising to reach a slice of them.
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