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Can someone get this man a job? He knows what he is talking about. Maybe Lolly needs a male fluffer too (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=fluffer), you know, some guy who makes her wet and horny by licking her Cunny before she needs to perform. I think Sgr is up for the job.
P.S. why don't you re-edit you last screen capture poster, I'm missing the Facebook like and dislike thumbs.

I kept thinking about this whole Lolly-Smiling-Laughing-Problem, and got a solution: I guess, the stage directions aren´t as clear, as they have to. If director says "Ok, Lolly, now try to look nasty", it all depends on what Lolly is thinking about the word "nasty". Maybe she thinks, it´s nasty, to keep smiling and laughing about her partner? No, i would suggest, to tell her, to look "aggressive" instead, because, no one can mix smiling an being aggressive at the same time. Looking aggressive and looking nasty are very close together, so this is the key. I saw her that way at 21Sextury.com (solo), which proves, she is able to looks and behaves the right way ... anyway ... she´s great! Therefore this lively discussion about details and the little things.

@Goldstar: I just need like-thumbs this time, for this screens ...

April 16, 2015: http://21sextury.com/scene/200544/Super ... ?rsl=47812

July 4, 2015: http://21sextreme.com/scene/16508/Fisti ... y?rsl=6701 ( ... Lolly Gartner gets a proper fisting by Gina Gerson aka Doris Ivy ...)

Goldstar wrote: .In the end, I understand this "human aspect" in this context. Women and men are able to perform better in the sack if they are banging a handsome person. I mean, I could probably also cum 8 times with Aneta keys

Problem is there might be tons of good looking young guys, question is can they perform under pressure? Are they on time? Do they appear clean and professional on the set?

A Producers nightmare is this: You book Lolly, put her in bed with some 25 year old skinny nice looking guy, and then his hardon disappears every 5 minutes. And I guarantee you this: Lolly could get pissed off after 20 minutes because she wants to finish the scene instead of waiting 2 hours while the guy has hardon issues. So the entire nice atmosphere of the scene is destroyed.

This is just an example but trying to answer "Why are we seeing the same male performers all the time". You stick with those who perform, you drop those who don't.

david-perfectgonzo wrote:Sure you can judge a girl. We can judge them so much that we talk about them like a piece of meat all the time. "I want double anal". "I want 15 guy gangbang with cum on her face". "I want her to swallow". If we take a step back we should realize these girls are all human beings.

Right, Dave!
But what kind of examples showing some porn fans allegedly treat girls like a piece or meat!
I happen to ask a lot for double anal, but always I do stress that these girls are not robots of course, but human beings with their limitations and feelings!
The question just is what a paying customer of "hardcore porn" can expect from a payed actress to perform on a porn set in a way that it looks convincing and gives us a good feeling?
I'd say its part of her job to swallow, to do anal and to try also to perform dap if demand for that act is high enough amongst her fans or her producer wants to book her for it. Its nothing to do with treating her like a piece of meat! On the contrary she is a human being who shoose that job in the entertainment biz!

Got my point? Or will you (as a non-dap producting studio as opposed to old Raul) still carry on portraing dap fans as ppl treating the girls like robots or worse?


Btw, thanks for other fanatasy destroying bts about your male cast etc.!

dap-addict wrote:I'd say its part of her job to swallow, to do anal and to try also to perform dap if demand for that act is high enough amongst her fans or her producer wants to book her for it. Its nothing to do with treating her like a piece of meat! On the contrary she is a human being who shoose that job in the entertainment biz!

Got my point? Or will you (as a non-dap producting studio as opposed to old Raul) still carry on portraing dap fans as ppl treating the girls like robots or worse?


Btw, thanks for other fanatasy destroying bts about your male cast etc.!

I think you misunderstand me. We all know this is a job for the models, and a lucrative one too if they're smart, and we have certain expectations towards the models. And we owe you fans a product as close to perfection as possible. It's all true.

However, my point this entire thread was that producers try to push girls to do stuff the fans like. So the producer pushes the girl, convinces her, begs her to do what the fans want. I've done it myself, I am not pointing fingers. The girl says "Ok I try my best, but I can't promise it will work out. Ive never done it before". Then sometimes it goes wrong. She makes funny faces during DP/DAP, she spits out the cum, maybe she looks bored during anal. Now we blame the girl she should have chosen another job? She's shit now? Because she agreed to do a job the producer asked her to do? That can't be a fair conclusion IMO -- especially if we're talking about some 18-20 year old girl from the village who is clueless about the world and life.

Don't for a minute think an oldschooler like Pierre with 5,000 scenes under his belt doesn't within a split-second see the difference between a girl genuinely trying to do her best (swallowing cum, DPing etc.) and a girl who is trying to cheat her way out of it to have an easy day of work? Whenever I spotted a girl cheating I raised hell on them, threatened to cancel shoots and throw them out. This is how we try our best to protect fans from bad scenes. But this is only working when we catch cheating girls (very rare!) -- and not innocent newcomers who really try their best but just fail. Let's not piss on the honest models who try doing what we want.

Just my 2c.

Thanks for claryfying, Dave!
For me with the truely commited girl its the risk I am willing to take. I do understand perfectly well that dap is not an easy act to perform, on the contrary its very demanding and a good producer and director feels who can rather really do it and who despite her verbal willingness to do her best cant do it. Its why we need to relay on you insiders, best with 500-5000 scenes shot. But this doesnt dispense you of asking also newbies if the are willing to try dap - if consumers ask for that act.

Btw, maybe I was just pointed out too often here as if I was asking to much and thus treating girls as robots rather than humans...yet scenes shot by PW, SOS, Giorgio Grandi and the gonzo.com team at LP show its all possible! (Not to mention past works of JYL a.o. )

dap-addict wrote:Btw, maybe I was just pointed out too often here as if I was asking to much and thus treating girls as robots rather than humans...yet scenes shot by PW, SOS, Giorgio Grandi and the gonzo.com team at LP show its all possible! (Not to mention past works of JYL a.o. )

When you say "Its all possible" meaning pushing girls to do any sort of circus sex act... of course its possible. And its fine as long as the girls survive without a hospital visit and customers are happy to see it. All I am saying is if you beg for your favorite fantasy sex act, and we're lucky enough to find girls who are willing to try then give the girl credit for trying -- don't poleaxe her when she doesn't do it very well. The entire "She gets paid for it, its her job" argument is a bunch of BS.

Did fuck with a ugly old guy @ oldje.com

http://www.oldje.com/video/lolly-gartner/cum-shower

haha oldje presented their most recent zombie, maybe a few others died in the meantime.

lmao @ Am0rIn0

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And with NACHO VIDAL of all guys!!!!!
Lolly getting the NACHO TREATMENT!!!!!
No mercy!!!! Hard and BALLSDEEP! Just FANTASTIC.
Nacho sure knows how to treat the ladies!
Hope to see more scenes like this!!!!

she took that creampie very well!
Creampie is always sexier than any facial thing, specially with a girl like Lolly, who doesnt like something smelly and sticky in her face.
I know, many porn fans like facials, but if it is obvious that girl dont like mayonase in face, why force it?