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The German Porn-Industry

Postby qwertz on Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:08 pm

Da es um die deutsche Pornoindustrie geht und mein Englisch nicht das Beste ist gibt es diesen Text leider nur auf deutsch - sorry...

Die erfolgreichste Sexartikelversenderin der Welt war die deutsche Unternehmerin Beate Uhse (1919-2001). Die Beate Uhse Aktie lag noch vor einigen Jahren bei ca. 13 Euro. Heute liegt sie bei ca. einem Euro. In diesem Jahr schreibt Beate Uhse erstmals rote Zahlen und es ist davon auszugehen, dass Beate Uhse in naher Zukunft pleite macht. Die deutsche Pornoindustrie scheint den Markt im Internet völlig verpennt zu haben. Niemand kauft sich heute noch Videos im Sexshop. Wer will da auch freiwillig hin, wenn man dieses für lau und ohne gesehen zu werden im Internet bekomme kann - Beispiel Videobox.com. Immer mehr deutsche Pornodarsteller treten aus dem Pornogeschäft aus und vermarkten sich in Eigenregie übers Internet auf Amateur Seiten mittels Webcam und verdienen dabei das gleiche Geld - ca. 3000 Euro im Monat.
...Das war eine Zusammenfassung aus dem RTL Magazin Extra um 22:00 - 14. April 2008...

Meines Wissens gibt es ca. 10 deutsche Pornofirmen, die sich soweit ich mitbekommen habe alle in den Haaren liegen und ums überleben kämpfen...

Auch wenn Magma im Netz seine Videos anbietet, würde ich keinesfalls ein zweite mal dort einkaufen:
- DRM (Digital Rights Management) Sicher, Ahnungslose gibt es genug. Doch ich denke unser eins wird Magma mit dieser Gängelei schon lange verjagt haben
=> Das Video darfst man nicht behalten und kann es nur auf ein und dem selben Rechner abspielen
=> Internetverbindung ist Pflicht auch wärend des Abspielens
=> Das video auf eine andere Festplatte zu sichern ist nicht möglich weil unbrauchbar
=> nach 24 Stunden des ersten Abspielens des Videos darf man erneut zahlen
=> Viel zu teuer
- Videoauflösungen unterhalb des PAL Fernsehens. HDTV wird es bei denen in 3 Jahren wohl noch nicht geben
- Video/Audio Bitraten jenseits von gut und böse

Deutsche Webseiten sind durch strenge alterskontrollen uninteressant und ausser Konkurenz gegenüber anderen Ländern
Noch nicht mal den Titel des Films darf Magma im Web anzeigen. Preview Bilder - Fehlanzeige.
http://www.xonio.com/news/Strenge-Alterskontrolle-bei-Porno-Webseiten_29186156.html
Bleibt nur noch auszuwandern...

Aus meiner Erfahrung kann ich sagen, dass ich dem deutschen Pornobusiness komplett den Rücken gekehrt habe seitdem ich eine Kredit Karte habe...

- Wieso sind wir deutschen nicht in der Lage Webseiten wie z.B. FTVGirls.com/1by-day.com/met-art.com ins Web zu stellen. Amerika, England, Frankreich, Ungarn, Czechien, Russland, usw. sind in der Lage vernünftige Webseiten ins Netz zu stellen. Warum aber nicht wir deutschen?
- Wieso gibt es nur ein deutsches Model auf Eurobabeindex?
- Deutsche Agenten mit Kontakten ins Ausland - gibt es sowas überhaupt?
- Wieso gibt es in Deutschland nur eine Hand voll namhafter Models doch in Ungarn haufenweise?
- Wir sind das bevölkerungsreichste Land in der EU und an hübschen Mädels fehlt es uns auch nicht - also woran liegt's?
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Re: The German Porn-Industry

Postby Airtight_fanatic on Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:16 pm

qwertz wrote:- Wieso sind wir deutschen nicht in der Lage Webseiten wie z.B. FTVGirls.com/1by-day.com/met-art.com ins Web zu stellen. Amerika, England, Frankreich, Ungarn, Czechien, Russland, usw. sind in der Lage vernünftige Webseiten ins Netz zu stellen. Warum aber nicht wir deutschen?
- Wieso gibt es nur ein deutsches Model auf Eurobabeindex?

- Wieso gibt es in Deutschland nur eine Hand voll namhafter Models doch in Ungarn haufenweise?
- Wir sind das bevölkerungsreichste Land in der EU und an hübschen Mädels fehlt es uns auch nicht - also woran liegt's?


I have seen plenty of titles from german companies with good gangbangs , but what bothers me is when they don´t mention the names of the actresses .
They are not included in eurobabeindex , nor in egafd , nor in iafd , save some famous exceptions .

Do they not care for their actresses , do they not want them to become known ?

I also would like to watch some Magma titles in payperminute , but where ?

Es ist zum röhren ...
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Postby paroxysmia on Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:45 pm

LOL in English, it's better !!

Ich liebe dich gern Wurst und die deutsche Mädchen ! :lol:
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Re: The German Porn-Industry

Postby dap-addict on Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:45 am

Airtight_fanatic wrote:what bothers me is when they don´t mention the names of the actresses.

Not true, the usually mention them, but they make up completely new names. :x
:arrow: They simply neither care for their talent nor the girls fans. :(

EBI is for Eastern European girls, that´s the reason only exceptions are mentioned.
And the reason for such a small German talent pool is that most German girls are unwilling to work for the going Prague/Budapest fees. And only very few are able to organize themselfs work in the far better payed Californian Porn Valley.
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Re: The German Porn-Industry

Postby Airtight_fanatic on Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:45 am

dap-addict wrote::arrow: They simply neither care for their talent nor the girls fans. :(

EBI is for Eastern European girls, that´s the reason only exceptions are mentioned.
And the reason for such a small German talent pool is that most German girls are unwilling to work for the going Prague/Budapest fees. And only very few are able to organize themselfs work in the far better payed Californian Porn Valley.


That makes sense .
I understand the reasons better now .

dap-addict wrote:
Airtight_fanatic wrote:what bothers me is when they don´t mention the names of the actresses.

Not true, the usually mention them, but they make up completely new names. :x


Well , to me it has happened a lot of times .
When it happens again , I will post the examples in this thread .
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Re: The German Porn-Industry

Postby dap-addict on Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:21 am

Airtight_fanatic wrote:
dap-addict wrote:And the reason for such a small German talent pool is that most German girls are unwilling to work for the going Prague/Budapest fees. And only very few are able to organize themselfs work in the far better payed Californian Porn Valley.


That makes sense .
I understand the reasons better now.

It´s all basically economics, but also organisational talent and personal choice.

Just two more recent German porn gastarbeiter girls:
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Angie La Belle shot her only dap so far for Lex Drill in Budapest:
Image (Look What´s up my Ass 10, Lex Drill)

(Nicoletta Blue works a lot in Prague: info and pics in this EBI tread. - No German porn gastarbeiter girl turned up in St. Peterburg yet.)

Sarah Sun works in the Porn Valley. She´s into heavy stuff, dap included, and payed about double the Budapest rates for that. But live is more expensive in the US.
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Postby qwertz on Tue Apr 15, 2008 8:49 am

dap-addict wrote::arrow: They simply neither care for their talent nor the girls fans. :(

EBI is for Eastern European girls, that´s the reason only exceptions are mentioned.
And the reason for such a small German talent pool is that most German girls are unwilling to work for the going Prague/Budapest fees. And only very few are able to organize themselfs work in the far better payed Californian Porn Valley.

...makes sense to me too.

Airtight_fanatic wrote:I also would like to watch some Magma titles in payperminute , but where ?

You can find the magma website here:
http://www.moviegroup.tv/ (german)
http://www.moviegroup.tv/?language=en (english)

And what a surprise they offer one HD-Movie (720p). You can download the trailer on this page:
http://www.moviegroup.tv/index.php?todo=film-liste&liste=hd

But as i told you. They use DRM, the video resolution is under the PAL/NTSC standard and the video/audio bitrate is way too small.
You can not see any preview pictures nor titles because of the german legislation - this site is not competitive.

I hate DRM (Digital Right Management) because:

- You can not play these videos on other pc's
- If you buy a new pc your old videos are history
- You must be connected to the internet or you are not able to play the video
- Magmas sales strategy is rip-off, because after 24 hours having played this video for the first time you have to pay again = far too expensive

Found another website from a german. The website is in english and with preview pictures - no german website with .de suffix - and the videos are DRM Free: www.gals-club.com
Unfortunatelly, the german camera man talks brainless rubbish in german the hole time. A turn off for me!

Cayenne got renamed in Cayenne Klein on this website - in english "Cayenne Small"
Eurobabeindex: http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/cayenne.html

Boroka Balls got also renamed in "Klara" and declare that she is a polish girl
Eurobabeindex: http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/boroka.html
Gals-Club: http://www.gals-x-club.com/gals-club/index_02.html
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Re: The German Porn-Industry

Postby Airtight_fanatic on Tue Apr 15, 2008 12:58 pm

dap-addict wrote:Just two more recent German porn gastarbeiter girls:
:arrow:
Angie La Belle shot her only dap so far for Lex Drill in Budapest:
Image (Look What´s up my Ass 10, Lex Drill)

(Nicoletta Blue works a lot in Prague: info and pics in this EBI tread. - No German porn gastarbeiter girl turned up in St. Peterburg yet.)

Sarah Sun works in the Porn Valley. She´s into heavy stuff, dap included, and payed about double the Budapest rates for that. But live is more expensive in the US.
Image (Fuck Me Now 1, PXP)


Thank you for bringing up these good examples .

I saw some good airtights from Sarah Sun in " Overflowing assholes 3 " , a quite good movie .

Speaking of " Angie la Belle " , I found her on Egafd , but this site never lists what action you can find in a movie ( dp , facial ) , so I never use it as much as iafd or eurobabeindex ; I don´t like it really .

The movie " Mommy gangbang " features some respectable airtights from Nicoletta .
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Postby Airtight_fanatic on Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:05 pm

qwertz wrote:
Airtight_fanatic wrote:I also would like to watch some Magma titles in payperminute , but where ?

You can find the magma website here:
http://www.moviegroup.tv/ (german)
http://www.moviegroup.tv/?language=en (english)


Found another website from a german. The website is in english and with preview pictures - no german website with .de suffix - and the videos are DRM Free: www.gals-club.com
Unfortunatelly, the german camera man talks brainless rubbish in german the hole time. A turn off for me!



Thanks for these links .

Tha magma site looks good , but I hope that in the future they will also have a payperminute-option , which is what I am looking for .

The gals-club site seems to be featuring some gangbangs , but I am not sure if there are dp´s and airtights also .
I can´t tell , because for the free tour they only let you look at the first page ...
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Postby qwertz on Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:33 pm

Airtight_fanatic wrote:The gals-club site seems to be featuring some gangbangs , but I am not sure if there are dp´s and airtights also .
I can´t tell , because for the free tour they only let you look at the first page ...

You have to click on the "See more Girls" graphic...

http://www.gals-x-club.com/gals-club/index_01.html
http://www.gals-x-club.com/gals-club/index_02.html
http://www.gals-x-club.com/gals-club/index_03.html
http://www.gals-x-club.com/gals-club/index_04.html
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Postby Airtight_fanatic on Tue Apr 15, 2008 1:42 pm

qwertz wrote:
Airtight_fanatic wrote:The gals-club site seems to be featuring some gangbangs , but I am not sure if there are dp´s and airtights also .
I can´t tell , because for the free tour they only let you look at the first page ...

You have to click on the "See more Girls" graphic...

http://www.gals-x-club.com/gals-club/index_01.html
http://www.gals-x-club.com/gals-club/index_02.html
http://www.gals-x-club.com/gals-club/index_03.html
http://www.gals-x-club.com/gals-club/index_04.html


Oops , thank you , I didn´t see it .
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Postby qwertz on Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:22 pm

...but nothing comparable with FTVGirls.com/1by-day.com/met-art.com/a.s.o.

Why?
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Postby camaban on Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:28 pm

If it's right that nearly all German porn companies are getting bankrupt soon and fight against each other (a senseless battle I think), then they only get what they deserves.

Ok, they have to fight against very restricted German porn laws in the Internet section where you have to get your passport ID or credit card number only to verify that you are of legal age to view porn sites.I never have and never will give such kind of information over the www only for getting access to a website.

But they also make so many big mistakes. Why for example always change the names of European and US pornstars, so you only know who's in the movie by the photos on the cover? Why dubbing everything including the groans and the moans? Why making low quality transitions from NTSC to PAL from US originals, so that the pciture quallity sucks?

The most companies didn't shoot in HD until today (maybe because it's too expensive)? And if you think that you have to pay ca. 40 to 50 Euro (60 to 75 $ !!!) for a German porn DVD (in comparison mainstream DVDs costs 10 - 20 Euro here) it's clear that they only care for their wallets and give a shit about the customer. And I'm really happy when comanies like Magma are in difficulties :twisted:

It's obvious that with the worlwide success of the Internet more and more porn fans here in Germany buy their porn now via online stores in the US or other European countries. Why should I spent 40 Euro for one DVD if I can get 3 DVDs for the same money elsewhere?
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Postby dap-addict on Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:31 pm

qwertz wrote:...but nothing comparable with FTVGirls.com/1by-day.com/met-art.com/a.s.o.
Why?

German porn production was always kind of niche (amateur, fist, fat etc) orientated.
Dont ask me why, but one reason could be that the good looking girls cannot be payed reasonable fees to make it still profitable for the producers.
Maybe, however, it`s also a cultural thing?
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