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how do porn companies work ?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:56 pm
by ubertop
Hey !
Just have a look Wiska's thread and understand how some porn companies behave with wonderful girls.
How awfully such beauties are treated, and paid so little money.
Then be proud to support this profession, it's your problem !

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:43 pm
by Rosseau
The emphasis is on some porn companies. There are black sheep in every profession, and that includes the adult entertainment industry. Some producers treat the girls badly, while others treat them very nice.

With that said, a girl is free to decide who she wants to work with again, isn't she?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:57 pm
by hansenb1
If the girls are treated like crap, why don't they leave those companies. Should they be allowed to name and shame? But it can work both ways as well. The women can treat the company they work for badly too. I heard stuff about laura Lion owing money to her agents. Messy.

H1

Re: how do porn companies work ?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:43 pm
by dap-addict
ubertop wrote:Then be proud to support this profession, it's your problem !

I do support the porn biz with my money and I think it is a good thing.
But I never supported the company you dont name here much - bought two dvds from there Czech period only, I think. And that`s the thing I am rather proud of.

But why not name the black sheep in the biz instead of wageing a war against all porn producers?!!
Why open a new thread when there is a thread about this company already?
Are you afraid of some very active forum member´s anger? :?

PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:09 pm
by sbando
As dap-addict said.

Re: how do porn companies work ?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:25 pm
by gapelover
dap-addict wrote:
ubertop wrote:Then be proud to support this profession, it's your problem !

I do support the porn biz with my money and I think it is a good thing.
But I never supported the company you dont name here much - bought two dvds from there Czech period only, I think. And that`s the thing I am rather proud of.

But why not name the black sheep in the biz instead of wageing a war against all porn producers?!!
Why open a new thread when there is a thread about this company already?
Are you afraid of some very active forum member´s anger? :?

Why should i be angry i am not getting payed by Sineplex (except some DVD's for free), everyone should tell his opinion in a forum, but never tell bullshit or lies.
I am sure also with other companies not everything works fine in this business.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:11 pm
by Ricardo Soli
All the biz. become more and more incorrect with the payments. How you can see on my website being agent in Budapest since 1988, i've gived the best girls to all the biggest companies coming in this country to make money. I had to stop working with almost all the italian producers, Denis de Francesco, Viv Thomas, etc.
Max Belocchio( Alessandro del Mar) after 5 movies maked mostly with my girls decided to not pay the agency fees (around 1000euro), and to put the model to pay her medication (400euro) in Dominican Rep. for a disease she didn't had.
DDF didn't payd me ag.fees of around 3400Eu.
Viv Thomas builded his "nice family" with my models: Jo(Monica Sweet), Eve,Peaches, Gina B, Sunny Blue, Laureen Kiss, Petra Short, Ella(Barbarella), just a few, to be mentioned wanting to control my business, stealing 7-8 of my best models 4 years ago.
And just to know, the most correct guys from this biz. are Pierre Woodman, Marc Dorcel, Rocco Siffredi and few of the prod.of 21sextury.
I start to have problems with Daring Media, and with a company working for Private, wich name i'll not tell you now, cuz i already hope they'll pay me soon or later. It is just 2 months from when i'm waiting for fuckin 400Euros transaction.
So, this is my blacklist, wich is sad, but i think will never end. :cry:

hmmmmm, ....

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:30 pm
by Mr_White
..... even porn-world is not just black and white.

As most of you folks know I - at times - used to quite often see girls from the porn-biz. They all had different stories to tell. Some i.e. adored Rocco, while another girl told me that she once walked away from one of his sets because she was treated like a piece of shit instead of having a proper treatment. You can even watch this scene in one of the older Rocco flicks, I think it is Animal Trainer # 4 if I remember that right.

Two directors seem to be extremely nice to the girls, far as I heard. These would be Mr. Clarke and Mr. Woodman.

Re: how do porn companies work ?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:41 pm
by dap-addict
gapelover wrote:Why should i be angry i am not getting payed by Sineplex (except some DVD's for free), everyone should tell his opinion in a forum, but never tell bullshit or lies.

Maybe you are not payed, but you act like you were! :?
And as soon as somebody critizes Sineplex you start to shout at him or her.
The way you treated Wiska in her EBI stars thread is not really nice at all, you know. Why should she lie? Have you been on any Sineplex set at all?

Of course everybody should tell here what they think. But we should grant those insiders a bit more credibility than the average porn fan. Of course we should be critical with what they write, too. But straight forward attack them? I dont think that´s fair really!

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:43 pm
by dap-addict
Ricardo Soli wrote:All the biz. become more and more incorrect with the payments.

Does this affect the agents only? Or also the girls directly?
:?

Re: hmmmmm, ....

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 8:45 pm
by STEMCELL
Mr_White wrote:Some i.e. adored Rocco, while another girl told me that she once walked away from one of his sets because she was treated like a piece of shit instead of having a proper treatment. You can even watch this scene in one of the older Rocco flicks, I think it is Animal Trainer # 4 if I remember that right.


So, how is Eva doing these days ?

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:43 pm
by Ricardo Soli
dap-addict wrote:
Ricardo Soli wrote:All the biz. become more and more incorrect with the payments.

Does this affect the agents only? Or also the girls directly?
:?

From my opinion the girls which are managed, wich cannot be fucked privately from everybody of a production team, wich doesn't do escort, are more respected in the end. 80% of the girls of this days are bitches, wich only want to make good contacts, and a bit of fame to can fuck later , earning bigger money than the simple ones. The new generation of the male actors when they wake up, they are taking the viagra pills, like the C vitamin in the morning, and they want to fuck everybody everywell, anytitme to show they're macho, offering and doing the work of the agents.
In my last production from 3 models 2 were loosing 1 scene from the movie cuz 2 (noname-yet) actors were bringed cheaper bitches from other productions, wich they could fuck anytime, before or after work. I don't think a professional director could accept this, i think the male actor have to relax before the scene to can be in off excited( maybee without viagra), and to have in off liquid material for the cumshot.
But anyway this problems come out, and we can saw them only when the product , we customers are buying.... :wink:

And i think, this affect mostly the models wich are loosing they're motivation seeing, they have to be bitches, to become pornstars. :twisted:

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:58 pm
by alexxx
As far as I know the people who wants to stay in the biz honours his debts.
Maybe is just matter of time. But everybody must be paid.
That's business! I never excused somebody who doesn't pay and I prefer to not be involved in anything where the people are not paid.
In the past I saw some beginner paid with few money but she was always OK.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:59 pm
by alexxx
As far as I know the people who wants to stay in the biz honours his debts.
Maybe is just matter of time. But everybody must be paid.
That's business! I never excused somebody who doesn't pay and I prefer to not be involved in anything where the people are not paid.
In the past I saw some beginner paid with few money but she was always OK.

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:04 am
by dap-addict
Ricardo Soli wrote:In my last production from 3 models 2 were loosing 1 scene from the movie cuz 2 (noname-yet) actors were bringed cheaper bitches from other productions

Bad times for professional agents it seems. :(
But is this not the effect of growing fees in recent years?
Somehow it was clear that this has to come to an end especially with so much competition amongst producers. As for those agent-actors I guess nobody will book them anymore if they cannot deliver and also shoot decent loads at the end.