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European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Girls?

Postby lizardblizzard on Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:30 am

From watching porn and the women that has been in porn, the european women clearly look much better than American women. I know most people on this board certainly believes that. Now this has me curious. I never have went to Europe. But in the US, many of the American women are obnoxious. Also most of them are well fat... unlike slim women in Europe it seems. Now when you look at the women in porn. If you were to ask me the top 5 best looking pornstar of all time, all of them would be european. If you ask me top 10... most likely it would european. You ask me top 20... there might be 1 only that is American.



Now this is what has me confused. There are many women that try to be models in the US. Few of them are successful and the ones that are supermodels... victoria secret models etc... yes they are good looking. But would i take certain european pornstars over them in terms of looks? Absolutely. Now many of the european pornstars are not tall enough to be models or supermodels. But some of them definitely are. My favorite pornstar of all time is suzie diamond. Pretty much the moment i watched her videos online, my thoughts were... she has got to be one of the prettiest faces i ever seen in porn hands down. Back then i watched american porn in the mid to late 2000s and was mostly watching american porn since well.. im american. Then i saw some european porn and was just shocked how good looking they are. For example suzie diamond is not only damn gorgeous, she has small tits and a big ass. She does not have fake boobs like many of the american pornstars. Then she is around 5'11.... that is insane. Basically she has the height of a supermodel. She clearly is better looking than every single victoria secret model there is. Now what has me wondering is... did someone like her ever try to get into modeling? She went to porn in 2004 from checking iafd. She then started doing porn and her peak was probably 2007 when she then later retired from porn. She is also from slovakia. Does slovakia not have modeling opportunities? How did she not go and try to be miss slovakia? So she then did porn in czech republic and hungary. Czech republic certainly has more opportunities than slovakia right? So very few girls there do modeling? Im confused why did she not trying modeling? The other thing that made me wonder was this. I believe she has went to the US before when i read something about her a while back. I think it was the fleshlight but that seem to be around 2011 when she was done with porn already. Did she try to model or get contacts in the US?


Someone like her if i was a judge, would clearly sign her easily. Some other very good looking euro girls would be Lucy Lee and Priscilla or Russian Anna Zolotarenko. They are from czech republic and russia. They are another 2 girls who are damn good looking. I know lucy lee did many modeling pictures but those seem to be like those femjoy etc. So that means someone like lucy lee wasn't seen as a top talent for a model like a similar victoria secret in czech republic?



So is that why most of these girls did porn instead? I mean if you ask these girls you can be model or supermodel and make same amount of money as porn, surely all these girls would do modeling right? Unless the girl is some big sex freak... i can't imagine any of them choose to be pornstar vs model.



Now let say this. Imagine suzie diamond, lucy lee and Anna zolotarenko were American. Or they are european and immigrated to the US when they were young. Do you think these girls would easily be models in the US? I mean i would think they would be extreme competition for female models in the US right? What also surprises me is this. If a woman looks anything like that in the US... guys would be all over them. They would find a rich guy easily where they would not even have to work and be like a housewife or a girl who just goes shopping and spends everything with their boyfriend/husband. Does anyone here agree with this? Even if they don't model, they don't even have to work anymore because find a rich guy and they are set. So is there a reason why these girls could not or can't find a rich guy like that in czech republic or slovakia or in europe? Is it because there are so many beautiful women in europe where they are not that special? And let say this was before they did porn etc. So its not like a guy would not want to be with them because they were a pornstar and don't want anything associated with them. Yes i know suzie started porn at 20, lucy lee at 18 and anna probably like 20. But there were no rich guys who find them attractive and then they go with them so they basically could be a golddigger? Because now im starting to think, is it because many euro women are not gold diggers and want to find true love?



Also there are lot of new euro pornstars now who are damn good looking. Why are many of these girls doing porn as oppose to finding a rich guy? Is being a female model in europe hard back in the mid 2000s to late 2000s which is why suzie diamond, lucy lee or anna zolotarenko did not do it? I know lucy lee did modeling but she probably was not the top ones etc. Is being a female model in europe now very tough? Im like if someone could post top female models in europe back in the mid 2000 to late 2000s and now. I easily pick suzie diamond, lucy lee and anna zolotarenko easily over those girls.
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby lizardblizzard on Wed Apr 24, 2019 9:19 pm

Anyone have opinion on this?
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby henryjames on Sat Apr 27, 2019 5:07 am

lizardblizzard wrote:Anyone have opinion on this?


Well first off, an opinion on your grammar, lizard.

The title of your thread is painful to read. It is fewer opportunities.

'less' is for uncountable amounts, 'less sugar', less shit'.

'fewer' is for countable entities, 'fewer people', 'fewer opportunities'.

OK that is a mistake a lot of native speakers make, but when you say "the women that has been in porn", and "I never have went to Europe" I have to ask about the educational opportunties currently available in the US of A.
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby Airtight_fanatic on Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:07 am

3 countries come to my mind that are insane :
Slovakia , Italia and Hungary .

When you go anywhere on the street , beautiful women pop out from anywhere .
The density/competition must be very high .

What I have never understood is that their contestants for Miss Universe etc pageants are rather mediocre compared to their porn beauties .
Of course it´s very hard to stand up against monstrous countries like Puerto Rico , India and Peru . And if anyday countries like Morocco and Bangladesh want to send some of their women to pageants then Euro girls will have an even harder time .
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby henryjames on Sat Apr 27, 2019 6:48 am

And now the grammar fascist steps back and the porn sociologist takes over.

Lizard: at the time of writing, there are thousands of stunning tall curvaceous 17-year-old girls all over Eastern Europe who want to use their good looks to financial advantage and who cannot wait to leave high school, reach legal age and set about doing so. The majority of them have been sexually active, and some of them positively hyperactive, since age 13 or 14: everywhere east of Berlin, girls are deflowered very early by older men, then get around boys two or three years above them at high school and only then settle down with a steady man, or, as we were saying, look to make some money out of being beautiful.

The historical reasons for this go back to the sexual mores of the Russian and Hapsburg empires, where it was unversally accepted that young women of all social classes would use the fleeting years of their physical beauty to gain as much advantage as possible: the daughter of a minor aristocrat would be honored by a bedtime visit from the Tsar himself, the middling shopkeeper's little angel would ensnare the same minor aristocrat's oldest son with her high breasts and tight pussy, while the round wench from the shtetl would be on the menu at the travelling salesmen's inn, and the wicked little gypsy cuties would blow cocks by the roadside as indeed they still do.

Yes, these societies were nominally religious, but unlike in lands further west, Christianity did not thunder against sexuality and a girl could go straight from a Saturday orgy to Sunday mass, sperm drying on her lips as she knelt at the communion rail. Then two world wars created moral as well as physical devastation, and forty years of communism destroyed whatever vestiges of bourgeois prudery may still have been lingering around. With all forms of contraception primitive and haphazard, Anal was not just a variety, but the norm.

So: a female population accustomed from an early age to enjoy fucking and to do so with an eye for gain.

Also everywhere east of Berlin, you will find that since 1989 capitalism has been peddling poisonous and demoralizing junk food and pig-fattening sodas, but these have not replaced local healthy eating traditions. So although a teen princess from Ostrava or Oradea may pop a big mac between her lovely lips now and then, or wash down a thick load of jizz with a seven-up, such filth does not form her entire diet and she prefers salads, veggies, lean meat, pasta and fruit even when these cost more than a greasebomb junkburger. She will usually accompany her healthy meal with sparkling mineral water or one glass of white wine, not a sticky gallon of sugar-saturated fizz.

So: a female population that is by and large much healthier than in the United Sates of Obesity.

OK then, why do all these gorgeous creatures not become Victoria's Secret models? Two reasons. First and most obviously not anyone can make it to the top of top-modelling. Many beautiful women are called, but few are chosen. There may be months if not years of underpaid struggle before you break through, if you do. And along the way, you will meet a photogapher who asks you to pull the pretty panties aside and show some pink, with a cash reward if you do so, and then the following week he has brought his boyfriend along and wants to take photogaphs of you sucking him off, for a larger sum, and so it goes on. Or... Friday night in a club in Timisoara you meet a very well dressed girl who was in the class above you at school where she was known to be dirty-barefoot poor, and she whispers in your ear that she is just back from Stuttgart where in one week she made €4,000 and what is more, really enjoyed fucking ten or fifteen strangers every day.

Compare this if you will to the local males. Sitting in class with the princesses are lithe muscular athletic boys with permanent hard-ons just like you and I used to be, lizard, and they dream of being soccer legends or rock stars. Are all of them gonna make it? Naaah, for every one who ends up playing for Real Madrid there are ten thousand who will wear the colors of Dinamo Plovdiv or Levski Spartak. You cannot turn up at the Bernabeu and ask the club to give you a game against Barcelona, and you cannot saunter into a model agency and tell them you want to work for Victoria's Secret, starting next week. But if you go to another kind of agency, and say that you are willing, this very afternoon, to take four cocks up your ass and then suck them dry, you will find immediate lucrative employment. And you do not need to have a Victoria-style body, ask Kirsty Black or Julia Red.

The second reason why all these beauties do not end up chastely strutting the catwalk is simple: so many of them are unabashed exhibitionists and nymphomaniacs. As Lucy Lee confessed to being, in two interviews before her complete disappearance from the public domain. And this also rules out for them the option you mention, lizard, of attracting some rich husband so as never to have to work. For such girls this is just unacceptably boring. Look at Ria Sunn who has a wealthy sugar daddy wrapped round her little finger, setting her up in business and lavishing gifts on her, but every now and then she drifts back to the savage joy of Legal Porno or GGG. Belle Claire announces that she is retiring into matrimony and motherhood, and six months later we see her back in the studio crammed full of cock. These wonderful women have a deep need to be looked at, and wanked over, by many men, in the studio and then in bedrooms and offices all over the world. Ria revels in the knowledge that at every moment of every day, some cock somewhere on the planet is ejaculating for her.

Look no further, lizard, than the First Lady of your Great Country, a spectacular Slovenian chick who set her body to work, modelling (and probably escorting) her way to become spouse of a wealthy and powerful man. And what is her life now? Absolute hellish misery, not a day goes by that she does not wish she had done five years of porn then five more in a Vienna brothel and then used her savings to open a nail clinic in Novo Mesto.

BTW Belle Claire is a woman who would absolutely adorn a Victoria's Secret session, but I know from more than one source that as soon as a woman has done porn there is no way to cross over into mainstream modelling. The model girls, many of them frigid and anorexic and full of weird fucked-up narcissism and new age lite morality, will scratch the eyes out of any potential colleague whom they suspect of having made easy money by getting their faces spunked for the cameras.

I could go on, lizard, but it is Saturday and time for my Sabbath observances: I must shit, shave, shower, dress and head out for a session of paid sex with a delightful Romanian woman. Hope this goes some way to answering your latest question and now that I have set the ball rolling perhaps other experts will join in...
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby robuk on Sat Apr 27, 2019 7:32 am

^ nice answer HJ :)
Don't take me too seriously;)
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Postby henryjames on Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:21 pm

Hey lizardblizzard

where-the-fuck you been, friend? Does the conversation continue?
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby lizardblizzard on Tue Jun 11, 2019 1:09 am

Sure... let this topic go on... want more opinions.
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby henryjames on Tue Jun 11, 2019 2:38 pm

An intelligent and beautiful Romanian woman with whom I have a mutually satisfactory business relationship, drew my attention to this - it has been doing the rounds back in her lovely homeland.

She had to translate one key word for me, but I will leave all you multilinguists and intellectuals and users of Google translate to do your own research... if no one cracks it I will reveal all in a few days time.

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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby robot on Wed Jun 12, 2019 1:13 pm

Before, during the holidays the girls waited for the boys to come home from the army and the war.
Now the boys wait for the girls to come for holidays from Germany, Switzerland and England
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby henryjames on Thu Jun 13, 2019 6:52 pm

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Good start robot, but you missed out the last line with the crucial adjective which had me and prințesa-mea puzzling and giggling together in our post-coital conversation.

ciuruite

She was trying with, 'drilled' and then she blushed and said, 'all so shooted up'.

I suggested 'plowed' but she said that was only a farming word in Romanian. For Shakespeare and other English speakers it can signify, well... 'fucked'.

When I took my empty balls home, Google gave me 'riddled' as in 'riddled with bullets' .

So let us go with her feminine native-speaker intuition and give this translation:

Back in the day, girls used to wait for boys to come home on holiday from military service and war.

Nowadays, boys wait for girls to return from 'holidays' in Germany, Switzerland and England more shot up than in war.


Nice.

And true.

Referring to the magnificent regiment of Romanian beauties who are 'serving' in good old Europe. I love to shoot them up and riddle them with my bullets, but unlike soldiers they seem to enjoy and ask for more rather than falling down dead...
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby henryjames on Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:10 pm

hii again lizard... and anyone else who may be listening...

Today was my Saturday visit to prințesa-mea and she told me that before joining her current and lucrative branch of the sex industry she did a spell of web-camming.

Now of course I knew what this was, but had not the faintest idea of the scale of things. Princess told me that for women in her country who cannot or do not want to travel west to sell pussy, (eg many college students, employees and housewives) or for those purely narcissist - exhibitionist women who do not like fucking, web-camming has become a good choice. You rent a bed and tech stuff in a studio and there you pose for eight or even ten hours per shift, while men from across all the time zones of the world look at you in their sperm-splashed monitors.

The rules are strict, she flirts and chats and pouts and strokes her hair, boobs and legs and gives a glimpse of feet and butt and panty, and she schmoozes online with the voyeurs, but ONLY when these dudes have invested 'credits' does she go further.

Once the johns have frittered their money into a private show she will go crazy with dildoes and fingers and yell with pleasure as the dork at the keyboard 10,000 km away informs her that he is reaming her up the ass while his wife devours her clit.

When I checked this out, the weird thing is how fuckin expensive it is. You send your payment for credits, after which you can sprawl among the bedbugs in your shithole one-roomer in Arizona and jerk off over a beauty from Arad... but if you while away more than fifteen minutes interacting with her over two-way video and microphone and then maneuver your laptop into a position where she can see your horrible little dick pushing out a droplet or two, it will actually cost you more, much more, per minute than I pay for my hours face-to-face, flesh-to-flesh and fuck-suck-fuck with prințesa-mea.

Now as a member of this forum I will surprise no one by admitting to having paid to join several porn sites here - and when I occasionally take valuable time posting images from these sites, it is because I am doing myself a pleasure while helping them with their marketing.

And it does not cost a princely sum to have a year with Private, GGG, LegalPorno, DorcelClub, etc. I just paid under 100 for a year with er, a certain site.

sooo... to spend more than 200 Euros for half an hour of watching a bored tired yawning over made up student of Psychology 101 listlessly licking a dildo in a studio in Cluj and telling you it is your dick and she loves it ????

Well it takes all sorts.

As I end this latest stream of fuckin nonsense there are more than 250 babes online just from Romania.. https://romanian.cam/ I can only imagine what is going down in Venezuela or Thailand ... and although the studio and others must take their cut, these girlies would not be there if they were not making money. One or two of them look very beautiful, like prințesa-mea as it happens, but the fact is this - I was there with her in the flesh today (deep in the flesh) and these chicks are merely cybershdows...

Well, yes, wankers of the world unite and so on, but this is weird.

Does the camming scene flourish in the US of A, lizard?
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Re: European Girls Have Less Opportunities Than American Gir

Postby henryjames on Wed Jun 19, 2019 5:44 pm

Hi again lizard, why not take five or ten minutes to update us on what pretty young women do in the USA to keep themselves in pocket money?
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Postby henryjames on Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:56 am

I had another long and interesting conversation on this topic with a smart professional lady this week... but as only lizard is interested and even he does not want to contribute, I will keep it.

I wonder if there is a forum somewhere where women who have been active in porn and/or webcamming and/or prostitution share their experiences in an honest non-ideological manner... with honorable exceptions (Olga C.), very few women seem to join us here for long.
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