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Who started this fake tests business. or has it always been going on ? Are more models using fake tests nowadays because of the cost of proper tests ? What can be done to keep the costs down ?

The problem is, say a person uses a fake test, he/she assume everyone else at the shoot is using a genuine test, so, he/she might infect the others. but he/she (assumes) will not get infected by any of the others. But if more than one person is using a fake test, anything can happen. Say if several models at a shoot are using fake tests (with positives for different illnesses), the infections will soar.

Or do models at a shoot nowadays assume that some of the other models there might be using fake tests ?

What would happen if someone was positive for HIV but used a fake test ? So far the incidents have been for curable illnesses, but HIV can still be a death sentence (though people can live for years with it with expensive medication).

It seems the authorities in Czech are intervening to try to cut out the fake tests (Ministry of Health). This might be the only way forward in all instances of this.

Content producers can use condoms on shoots...But surfers and members its not like it...

No-one will buy porn with condoms.

The integrity of the testing is what matters. It seems outside forces (the Ministry of Health) is turning this (in Czech) into a public health matter, and hence taking control away from voluntary code of practice, which does not work.

More intervention will follow, but it will be for the best to get to the root of the problem, which is the cost of testing, and lack of disclosure if someone is positive for an STD but tries to keep working.

The general lack of regulation is the problem.

There really needs to be a union for porn models in each country, where each model would pay a bit into a fund to help subsidize cost of testing and ensure integrity of tests. Also, if there was a kind of sick pay fund, so that porn models would not try to work when sick, because if they can get a little during the period of sickness, they will think they do not need to cheat the system. They will not get as much as when working, but it would be enough to keep them going until they are fit to work.

More regulation will mean this is covered by health and safety at work.

I dont think cost of the tests is really a problem now. Yes, they are quite expensive, but the state cannot finance your business. But the more you work, the more you earn, so you can cover that costs more easily.

I think fake tests is a matter of the last time and the media tries to inflate it. From what I know, its a matter of individuals and it occured very little. You know, people are not always professional, and they want big money.

Mr. Peter wrote:I think fake tests is a matter of the last time and the media tries to inflate it.

I can only see Czech media jumping on it and infalteing that all for the sake of one more scandal and porn slashing.
And I only hope Robert Rosenberg gets through with his initiative for more safety without needless government interference. Better let the responsible porn profis sort this out and just give them a helping hand from the gvt when they really ask for it.

superduper wrote:No-one will buy porn with condoms.

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May be this is myth?

Sarah Young once said, "If you want protection, you shouldn't be in the business." (It was on a Eurotrash report about Europorn years ago, if I remember right, when Tabitha Cash decided to quit the business out of fear of STD.)

The report also went on to say that very little condom porn is produced because people don't buy it.

The only realistically viable safeguard (though not foolproof) is more complete and trustworthy testing.

superduper wrote:No-one will buy porn with condoms.

bullshit

Oops. Sorry. Fewer people will buy porn with condoms than will buy porn without condoms, but some people will buy porn with condoms.

But if the porn industry were financially sustainable with producing only porn with condoms they would have done it by now, so that might not be the solution.

I only see the downside of wearing condoms in the movies during blowjobs. But during actual intercourse, Im perfectly ok with comdoms. They are so thin and clear now so they are barely visible.

Ive seen some nasty anal porn with comdom and it was equally hot like without it.

Again, only blow jobs and creampies would ruin the nastiness.

hardware wrote:

superduper wrote:No-one will buy porn with condoms.

bullshit

I find most of Dorcels flicks with condoms very good stuff

Mr. Peter wrote:Again, only blow jobs and creampies would ruin the nastiness.

If you do creampies, than you can also fuck condomless. Creampies, but fucking with condoms is nonsense.
Apart from this I would really like to have such bad eyes as you, Mr. Peter.
And I bet a lot of fellow porn fans would like the same.


Btw, just refrained from bying a Marc Dorcel dp comp, I´d like for all the sexy stockings those girls wear during dp for fear of too many condomized scenes. Marc Dorcel is a neat niche product in the biz being successful thanks to non-condomized Czech filmed porn usually mixed in.

Personally I think the best porn should avoid condoms.
Most of the people want to see real hard action without thinking to sexual illnesses.
Porn is sex and freedom at the edge. If you show an actor playing with his condom you could ruin the natural and wild side of the action. Keeping condoms on fucking but not on blowjob is not a real and effective solution.
And I cannot imagine to shoot a deep-throat and a swallowing with a condom.
And what about DAP?
In the meantime we all need to preserve people working in and to avoid moralistic crusades or conservative interventions.
How? Sanctioning who uses fake tests and finally recurring to a tribunal if the person could be back in the biz.
There’s no other way except a reinforced self-control and a use of some trusted actors and actresses.
The biggest risks will be always with newbies and some declining stars who don’t take seriously their job.
But until now, if we consider all the porn production made in the last years, we managed well this kind of problems.

I have not heared about this fake test problem.
do girls or guys fake tests? or both the same.
i do not want condoms. i want creapies. real creampies, not fakes.
like in japan gangbang movies. 20 guys inseminating one girl.

alexxx wrote:In the meantime we all need to preserve people working in and to avoid moralistic crusades or conservative interventions.
How? Sanctioning who uses fake tests
(...)
But until now, if we consider all the porn production made in the last years, we managed well this kind of problems.

Well spoken stances, alexxx.
Whenever some accident happens all those condom/non-condom discussions surface again, but people completely forget how safe porn actually is compared to other businesses and also private sex.