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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:10 pm

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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Tue Sep 10, 2019 1:33 pm

Without any proof that is just public slander. Maybe he just broke her heart and now she wants revenge, there is nothing more toxic than a woman which feels rejected by a man. So she has to prove that her accusation is true.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Tue Sep 10, 2019 2:16 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:Without any proof that is just public slander. Maybe he just broke her heart and now she wants revenge, there is nothing more toxic than a woman which feels rejected by a man. So she has to prove that her accusation is true.

Sure! He seems to be every -women 's -dream man :::
I go to get my popcorn :mrgreen:
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Tue Sep 10, 2019 6:48 pm

That's still just bad mouthing, no proof for the serious accusations above. If they are serious they shall go to police and present evidence. As long it's in dubio pro reo.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Wed Sep 11, 2019 4:26 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:That's still just bad mouthing, no proof for the serious accusations above. If they are serious they shall go to police and present evidence.

To British Police? Are you joking? People get robbed in UK. People get stabbed. And let's not forget all acid attacks. No border control at all. Desaster of the country.
I remember I was living in Finchley. There was a robbery in our building ,apartment on the second floor. The owner of the house called on cops. They have never arrived. Next day he must go to police office himself to fill report.
Cops suggested him to change a code and locks in the building. Nothing else.
Do you think anyone will investigate what really happend during content share shoot for Onlyfans? If a male talent was positive or negative on small STD?(According to Ava,a guy was tested positive on small thing . Btw,he is an american and he is not in UK any more. Also it can be ,that he gave false positive (see D.P.'s case )
It's strange ,nobody reported Mina. This girl ,together with Nacho,provocated huge outbreak,but companies book her after all like nothing happend . Did she catch it in Beirut? Someone sent me her Instagram during mess with syphilis(I covered her non porn name)
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:43 pm

Agree on weak police and overall knife migration, but anyway it's not a way to wildly accuse people online without evidence as this is a crime called slander. In the example above a positive test should exist as evidence.

Yes it's likely one caught syphilis during escort. If Mina or Jason was patient one we will never know. The problem is it is impossible to prove it 100% due to long incubation time.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby olga cabaeva on Thu Sep 12, 2019 1:33 am

Am0rIn0 wrote:Agree on weak police and overall knife migration, but anyway it's not a way to wildly accuse people online without evidence as this is a crime called slander. In the example above a positive test should exist as evidence.

I'm curious about his test too. Depends on where and how it was done ,the result can be very different.
Do you know that PCR test doesn't read the difference between dead and live bacteria? So,sometimes old cured infection can give a positive result.,when a person doesn't have anything( I am sure with just PCR testing there were much more positive cases in Budapest and Prague then usual. )
Found this interesting comment from the nurse on PCR testing. It looks like several cases of false positive on chlamydia
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby Am0rIn0 on Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:20 am

That's opinion of a nurse, nothing scientific. As long one has bacterial DNA inside him it's likely they live, as dead bacterias are removed by body's immune system.

PCR is a simple method to let small amounts of DNA grow and replicate it many times until there is enough in a sample to indicate it with a special paper testing strip. If one has bad luck a swap is taken from an area where no bacteria exists, then it will give a false negative.

Or an urine sample is stored in a too hot place or for too long and bacterial DNA dissolvess. Or one mixes up samples of different patients. There are lot's of human factors which can happen. No method is 100%. But PCR overall is very accurate I would say 99%.
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Re: Syphilis Outbreak in Budapest

Postby giorgiograndi on Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:54 am

2 cents

Since we had PCR testing on chlamydia and gono, people tested positive dropped 70%.
After we start testing every 15 days instead than every 28, it dropped again to almost zero. This is also because many male performers quit the biz as to pay 2 test in one month doesnt make sense as they shoot just 1-2 scenes. Also about the female performers, many girl get tested only when they have shooting, so the day before the shooting or so, this helps as well. Also to accept test only from few clinics keep the same "standards" and this is important.
This is my personal experience, but I shoot 40 scenes/month with a shitload of people, so I think its a interesting information.

Regarding fake positive
There are 2 main reason for this:
- get tested too soon after being in therapy for having been positive before (dead DNA)
- drugs, other medicament, alcohol

The probability of fake negative or undetected infection on chlamydia and gono with PCR method is very, very low comparing with other methods.

I want to add that the "window period" (period between infection and when the disease is detectable) is almost zero. Few hours after the infection, the DNA of the disease is already detectable with a PCR swab.

The actual testing system works very well, it keeps performers more save.
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