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Postby dap-addict on Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:45 am

21 Sextury´s prices are higher than other, I agree. But I gladly pay a bit more for such quality.
EA for 60 Euros? You seem to be talking about Beate Uhse shops. I mean that´s not due to EA or EA Euro distro, but the retailer charging just exorbitant prices. :(
It´s the same with 21S often, but you can get them cheaper with other suppliers. Generally I think all studios ask about the same whole sale prices. And as Ricardo Solis post show, I think a lot of porn fans are not aware which tremendous work has to be done behind the scene until a porn dvd is on the shops shelves.
And if these films are produced in a fair way and the girls are treated professionally I am well prepared to pay a fair price, too.
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Postby alexxx on Wed Dec 19, 2007 4:26 pm

dap-addict wrote:21 Sextury´s prices are higher than other, I agree. But I gladly pay a bit more for such quality.

And if these films are produced in a fair way and the girls are treated professionally I am well prepared to pay a fair price, too.



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Now I run to meet that fucking producer which always cuts catering and salaries of all the team.
Hopefully girls don't eat a lot on the set :lol: :lol:
I suspect it's the fatty guy behind the lights that stole our meal :wink:
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Postby pornomike on Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:59 am

A question to gapelover:

What the story about girl from "Russian teen obsession" who was forced to finish the scene. I haven't seen it from the footage which is now located under address you posted.

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Suppose girl has signed a contract with company May she leave the biz whenever she wants And may she stop doing the set at any point if she feels uncomfortable What is situation about it according to law and in practcise?
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Postby alexxx on Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:52 am

pornomike wrote:A question to gapelover:

What the story about girl from "Russian teen obsession" who was forced to finish the scene. I haven't seen it from the footage which is now located under address you posted.

Question to all

Suppose girl has signed a contract with company May she leave the biz whenever she wants And may she stop doing the set at any point if she feels uncomfortable What is situation about it according to law and in practcise?


Depends on the contract you sign.
At general you may leave the biz whenever you want because nobody can force you to do something you don't like.
The only concrete problem is when you get paid for multiple shoots or a specific scene you cannot completely perform.
In this case the production cannot pay.
Personally this is the only reason for that you may see some actress not really enthusiastic about her job on the screen.
In some case is not only matter of money for the girl, it is also matter of money for the producers.
It may sounds harsh but if you agreed for some scene you are asked to perform until the end.
That's why is important to define what you can or you cannot do.
This avoid always problems to everybody and make everybody comfortable.
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Postby gapelover on Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:05 pm

pornomike wrote:A question to gapelover:

What the story about girl from "Russian teen obsession" who was forced to finish the scene. I haven't seen it from the footage which is now located under address you posted.

Question to all

Suppose girl has signed a contract with company May she leave the biz whenever she wants And may she stop doing the set at any point if she feels uncomfortable What is situation about it according to law and in practcise?

I don't know whats the story, the girl was crying and want to stop shooting, you should watch the "Behind The Scenes" footage on the DVD.
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Postby camaban on Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:36 pm

gapelover wrote:
pornomike wrote:A question to gapelover:

What the story about girl from "Russian teen obsession" who was forced to finish the scene. I haven't seen it from the footage which is now located under address you posted.

Question to all

Suppose girl has signed a contract with company May she leave the biz whenever she wants And may she stop doing the set at any point if she feels uncomfortable What is situation about it according to law and in practcise?

I don't know whats the story, the girl was crying and want to stop shooting, you should watch the "Behind The Scenes" footage on the DVD.

Yes, it is in the BTS and because I watched the BTS before the scene I can't enjoyed it anymore. Did ruin the movie for me.
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Postby chris on Sun Feb 03, 2008 6:58 pm

camaban wrote:
gapelover wrote:
pornomike wrote:A question to gapelover:

What the story about girl from "Russian teen obsession" who was forced to finish the scene. I haven't seen it from the footage which is now located under address you posted.

Question to all

Suppose girl has signed a contract with company May she leave the biz whenever she wants And may she stop doing the set at any point if she feels uncomfortable What is situation about it according to law and in practcise?

I don't know whats the story, the girl was crying and want to stop shooting, you should watch the "Behind The Scenes" footage on the DVD.

Yes, it is in the BTS and because I watched the BTS before the scene I can't enjoyed it anymore. Did ruin the movie for me.


For me not and I liked the scene.
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Postby dap-addict on Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:05 pm

Dont know this bts, but I am surprised Rocco included it at all.
On the other hand it may show how honest he is, though. :?

pornomike wrote:A question to gapelover:may she stop doing the set at any point if she feels uncomfortable What is situation about it according to law and in practcise?

It depends on the contaract the girl signed for the given scene. A normal wording included something like she perfoms all that is required no matter wheter she likes it of not the best she can. Whatever happens if she doenst want or cannot perform what is required is thus a grey zone, all depending on the mood on set, the director, the girls agent called in when the troubles started etc.
I remember a similarely looking bts with Bibi Fox in a Rocco film where Bibi claims the actors dicks were too big for her ass. In this bts first Rocco gets really upset, but than he also stresses he doesnt want to force anyone to do this job and Bibi can thus just leave the set if she wants.
That scene, however, was shot in Roccos house outside Budapest. Given the fact he flew his crew into Russia, payed a lot of money already etc, he may have pressured the girl. Or her agent did, her bf, she herself... :?
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Postby Ricardo Soli on Mon Feb 04, 2008 3:56 am

dap-addict wrote:Dont know this bts, but I am surprised Rocco included it at all.
On the other hand it may show how honest he is, though. :?

pornomike wrote:A question to gapelover:may she stop doing the set at any point if she feels uncomfortable What is situation about it according to law and in practcise?

It depends on the contaract the girl signed for the given scene. A normal wording included something like she perfoms all that is required no matter wheter she likes it of not the best she can. Whatever happens if she doenst want or cannot perform what is required is thus a grey zone, all depending on the mood on set, the director, the girls agent called in when the troubles started etc.
I remember a similarely looking bts with Bibi Fox in a Rocco film where Bibi claims the actors dicks were too big for her ass. In this bts first Rocco gets really upset, but than he also stresses he doesnt want to force anyone to do this job and Bibi can thus just leave the set if she wants.
That scene, however, was shot in Roccos house outside Budapest. Given the fact he flew his crew into Russia, payed a lot of money already etc, he may have pressured the girl. Or her agent did, her bf, she herself... :?

That's not your , or mine problem, if You're drunk. It is her fuck..problem. We, only have to buy the movie, in case.
Would be delighted to share some personal things, when others are thinking She could be more than sommeone of us. :) I1ve maked her to be Whio, she pretend to be, with P.Woodman. She couldn't find the right guy to fuck her. And, now she's pissing on everybody. Than, everyone can suck my dick, only cuz She deserves it. A 20 y. chick, who things the world is about how she fantasies.She never had a fucking orgasm, just playing around. Anyway, i'm too much on to destroy your dreams about her.Just believe me, i have alot of better options. :twisted: :)
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Postby dap-addict on Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:25 am

Ricardo Soli wrote:That's not your , or mine problem, if You're drunk. It is her fuck..problem. We, only have to buy the movie, in case.
Would be delighted to share some personal things, when others are thinking She could be more than sommeone of us. :) I1ve maked her to be Whio, she pretend to be, with P.Woodman. She couldn't find the right guy to fuck her. And, now she's pissing on everybody. Than, everyone can suck my dick, only cuz She deserves it. A 20 y. chick, who things the world is about how she fantasies.She never had a fucking orgasm, just playing around. Anyway, i'm too much on to destroy your dreams about her.Just believe me, i have alot of better options. :twisted: :)

Are you talking about Bibi Fox?
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Postby ubertop on Sat Feb 23, 2008 5:26 pm

can you believe it ? There are at least 15 films that I would like to buy (from 21st Sextury, Collateral Damage, Crual Media, Sineplex ...) and there are not available in shops !
Where is this business going ?
Why do shops all display piles of the same old films at cheap prices that nobody wants ?
How do porn companies work ?



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As for ubertop: I often ask myself excatly the same. Some companies produce excellent stuff - treating their girls good and fair on contrary to Sineplex, too - but their sales dept is just worth nothing. What a waste of energy, talent and money! :x[/quote]
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Postby alexxx on Tue Feb 26, 2008 12:24 am

Bad distribution is killing good productions. Now only the Net can save the situation...
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Postby ubertop on Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:09 pm

When 1 euro is changed for 1,60 dollar, how do you explain that an american film sold 18 dollars in the USA is sold 45 or 60 euros in Europe ?

I wish that the amateur mafia that runs the distribution in this business is soon kicked off by real professionals



alexxx wrote:Bad distribution is killing good productions. Now only the Net can save the situation...
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Postby camaban on Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:16 pm

ubertop wrote:When 1 euro is changed for 1,60 dollar, how do you explain that an american film sold 18 dollars in the USA is sold 45 or 60 euros in Europe ?

I wish that the amateur mafia that runs the distribution in this business is soon kicked off by real professionals



alexxx wrote:Bad distribution is killing good productions. Now only the Net can save the situation...

Porn films here in Germany are sold for 40 to 50 Euro per DVD since years. But who cares? I buy all my DVDs from much cheaper online shops mostly in the US, so I'm happy for the cheap dollar at the moment :wink:

But what I would like to now is, if these companies really sell one of their movies. Who pays 50 Euro for a DVD? Mainstream DVDs here costs 10 to 20 Euro, and for porn you should pay more than the double? Dont know the English word for this, but we in Germany say that's Wucher or Nepp.
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