Will porn no longer be profitable in the future

[Pierre Woodman]

Yes but the 350 million euros than do Files Sonic and probabily the same with megaupload are the biggest parts of the piracy, all other torrents are used by people who in any case will never paid, so we don't care of them !

PW

[claudia_rossi_fan_1]

Yes but the 350 million euros than do Files Sonic and probabily the same with megaupload are the biggest parts of the piracy, all other torrents are used by people who in any case will never paid, so we don't care of them !

PW

Banksters don't care about the smell of the money.

They just care about the money, nothing else.

[chris]

Hmmm,that's no good news for Ric...
he prefers Files Sonic and not Torrent

[Vulture]

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By MikeSouth

October 21st, 2011
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People in porn are perplexed as to what is going on. They are clueless about how and why the industry has suddenly gone to hell. I'm getting some ideas about it too, hearing from former fans, current fans and the like. When you run a strip club you get a bit closer to the consumer it seems.

One of the things that surprised me is that the size of the female audience is apparently larger than the industry knew. Now I'm not saying that strippers are indicative of single females in general but ALL of my dancers watch porn, so do my bartenders, including the 21 year old I just hired who formerly waitressed at a family restaurant and had never even been in a strip club. Seems that porn is really no big deal to the under 30 single female.

As for the younger (under 30 guys) the overwhelming sentiment was why on earth would I buy it, it's everywhere for free. I can pull up something, watch it and be done in ten minutes, no video store, nothing.

As for the older porn fans, as one guy put it...."Porn has issues, it turned into a freak show, it isn't sexy to turn sex into a violent act, I don't want to watch that, do you?" Seems that most would rather join a website that reflects their particular tastes, be it a particular fetish or whatever.

Indeed, it would appear to me that the industry has consumed itself. Too much product, shifting the focus from the girls to the guys, removing anything erotic, it has become as plastic as Jenna. It lost it's soul.

There was a time when our industry made intelligent movies about sex instead of the unintelligent movies with sex that we make now. In with your porn was some character development and a semblance of a plot. But the female stars were never abused, but then they didn't turn tricks on the internet either.

So we have issues, and some genius out there thinks that bringing Rob Black into the industry is the answer?

The reason nobody flunks out of porn is because apparently there's no one in porn with enough intelligence to recognize that our lack of intelligence is slowly but surely killing us off. Not unlike Playboy Magazine we have failed to change and adapt, instead we have the confidence that we know what they want, not them and the result is that our customers are abandoning us.

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Great piece, really pleased to hear that there are some within the porn industry who share my views on current porn content.

[yenping]

Just some food for thought...because piracy is fundamentally different from theft, the authorities will gradually become more and more tolerant to it.

Bad for us porn fans yes, but alas there's nothing we can do about it. PIPA and SOPA died before arrival.

[budtugley]

The porn industry didn't keep up with the changing of the technology available. There's always the freeloaders, porn, like many entertainment industries, can hinder them, but not stop them completely.
With the advent of higher internet speed and DVD burners in just about every computer, the porn industry should have let paying customers download and burn their own DVD's.
Companies like Sineplex tried hard to prevent piracy, but if Disney can't stop it completely, Sineplex won't either.
Many companies tried to sell 2nd rate porn at first rate prices, much of it recycled scenes, older footage, analog converted to digital, and poorly shot, edited, and acted scenes.
Now that Megaupload and some other file-sharing sites like Fileshare have been shut down, the sharing community will suffer, folks might return to the rent it and buy it mode, but the world-wide recession has cut into some people's ability to pay for good porn.

Personally, I used to rent like 500 videos year. Now I rent maybe 50 at the most. I used to buy VHS and DVD's,some new, many used, I rarely do it anymore. One of the things that's nice is I'm getting reacquainted with some old nuggets, Private's from the 1990's, Christopher Clark's older stuff, Rocco's older stuff, even RedLightDistrict's fare from the 1990' among others.
If you can't go forward, you can always go backwards.

[hopless3]

Just some food for thought...because piracy is fundamentally different from theft, the authorities will gradually become more and more tolerant to it.

Bad for us porn fans yes, but alas there's nothing we can do about it. PIPA and SOPA died before arrival.

It may not be theft but it is forgery. Consider this analogy. Suppose I owned a company making expensive (or even cheap) MP3 players and the Chinese or who ever decided to copy them and put me out of business buy giving them away free. I and my staff would end up with out work and none of us would have done anything wrong. The piracy would have taken away our lively hoods ie they have stolen our means of earning a living by an indirect method.

People think that because it is so easy to copy software, data etc that it hasn't cost someone time effort and money to produce it. This is wrong!

As to your claim that the authorities will gradually become more and more tolerant to it, this I think is wrong since they ave shown that they are willing to act against MegaUpload their attitude has clearly hardened. In the 80's people used copy software with out paying. I worked in IT then and it wasn't unusual to find a company that had bought 1 copy of a word processor but had 250 people using it. That has changed. Now it's much rarer and as more and more people get prosecuted so the for file sharing people will come to recognise that they shouldn't be doing it. Not just from prosecutions for distributing porn but the fact that there are prosecutions for other types of copyright theft.

One unexpected effect of the licensing issues with software is that relatively today software costs less than it did then. You can buy Microsoft Office for fewer £ now than you could get it in the early 90's inspite of inflation. So maybe the price of porn will actually fall.

[claudia_rossi_fan_1]

How do you compete with free ?

You can't.

Or you cheat like Manwin ( tubes + real porn sites : they really are the devil).

All other considerations come from people who never actually tried to make a living with porn and think they know better.

They don't but they like to convince themselves they do because of this little fragile thing called ego aka self importance..

Case closed.

[General Bear]

I think porn in the future will be made as ads for prostitutes. They will be able to charge their customers more if they have been on film.

[claudia_rossi_fan_1]

I think porn in the future will be made as ads for prostitutes. They will be able to charge their customers more if they have been on film.

It is already happening.

Porn stars who escort can ask for better fees than your average russian prostitute.

Porn is already the google ads for international escorting.

[phunkey]

I don't buy all this "porn will die" shit. It's been around much, much longer than any of us, and it will continue to do so. Where there is demand, there will be supply.

Yes, the porn industry is under threat. Piracy is one threat, but since the FBI shut down megaupload in January other fileserving services and even torrent sites are coming under scrutiny and face litigation, that threat may be largely removed (fancy that - the FBI at least indirectly supporting the porn industry...ironic!). The other threat to the major porn companies may potentially be much more severe in the future: that of amateur porn. People demand more diversity which industry is failing to deliver. Nowadays there are not only many more porn companies competing with each other, they also have to compete with porn stars running their own websites and with the amateur porn market.

So in a nutshell - of course porn will be profitable in the future, but the formerly 'monopolist' porn industry will have to live with decreasing marginal profits due to increased competition.

[Patrick2]

I agree that those people saying that porn is dying are exagerating but there is no denying that many and I mean many studios have died in the last couple of years and these weren't studios shooting porn out of their homes. They died and no other studios took up the slack.
You can almsot count on one hand the number of studios shooting porn on a regular basis.

Less studios means less jobs for performers and less jobs means more competition between the different performers and that can be a plus because it means that girls must now choose to do a littlre more than they would have in the past. The bad is that since most of them can't make enough money doing porn then they simply leave porn behind or turn to escorting. I think we loose just as many if not more to escorting because the money is better and the hours are more flexible.

[claudia_rossi_fan_1]

Before commenting on the subject, plesa educate yourselves end learn what Manwin is all about.

They are fucking the entire porn industry in the ass without asking anybody.

[bubblebob]

You are very right Pierre. My question is "Is there any digital encryption technology to avoid piracy?" It is not fair when one pays to get access to a shoot and someone else gets it for free.

How do you protect from it?

I don't think you can. Or, better said, it's possible only with implementing things that also hurt the paying customer, so the customers will decrease as well (like this DRM shit that fortunately more or less died already).

[phunkey]

Before commenting on the subject, plesa educate yourselves end learn what Manwin is all about.

They are fucking the entire porn industry in the ass without asking anybody.

Why should they ask? It's simple market economy. In contrast to "classic" porn companies they are quicker on the uptake and their move to coopt large chunks of the amateur market and tube sites was nothing but ingenious in economic terms. Despite their rather toxic business model the risk of litigation is rather small, especially now that Playboy has opened the door...