Pornstars Escorts-Eurothread

[paroxysmia]

Next time you meet her at the shopping mall, ask her.

[robot]

havent seen any pornchix in prg lately, not even my neighbour dominika c... maybe she moved out? im always walking in that park and i dont see her anymore

[ChuteLubrique]

Calling all punters in Finland

Gina B.

Doing city tour of Helsinki from March 24 to 29, 2013

http://exclusive-girl.com/girls/details/98/

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/chloesw.html

No more porn for this girl, it seems, but lots of escorting.

CL

[adark69]

havent seen any pornchix in prg lately, not even my neighbour dominika c... maybe she moved out? im always walking in that park and i dont see her anymore

Maybe because she is in Paris?

[Ricardo Soli]

Calling all punters in Finland

Gina B.

Doing city tour of Helsinki from March 24 to 29, 2013

http://exclusive-girl.com/girls/details/98/

http://www.eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/chloesw.html

No more porn for this girl, it seems, but lots of escorting.

CL

She was escorting before to get naked in front of the camera. What else she could do after 14 years spended in this biz without any bg scene?

[Bruno]

What else she could do after 14 years spended in this biz without any bg scene?

Retire from porn and find a nice boyfriend maybe?

[Winston]

I'm not quite sure about what to make of this video blog created by American adult performer Tori Black....but I came across it just recently...and I figured
that some of you on here might find it to be of some interest..and/or some of you might get a kick out of viewing it.

Make of this video..and Tori's words.. whatever you want/wish.


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Not for sale.
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misstoriblack
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Uploaded on Jul 1, 2012
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I am not for sale and here's why.
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[ChuteLubrique]

Thanks for posting that, Winston.
I hadn't seen it before. Tori is a lot more introspective than the vast majority of adult performers. She has a clear idea of the distinction, in her own mind, between a porn performer and a hooker, but agrees that others might see things differently.

She says that as an adult star, she is on the same level as the other person (male or female) she is performing with: they are both being paid for their porn performances.

This contrasts with the hooker-punter relationship, where the dynamic is completely different because one is paying and the other is being paid.

She doesn't raise this topic, but an interesting issue is the case where the porn producer is both producer and performer (e.g. Rocco, PW, CC), i.e., he is both punter (he's paying for sex, in a sense) and porn performer at the same time. Distinctions get blurred. So does the role of the woman performing with them also get blurred?

I'd also like to hear what some more introspective Eastern European models have to say about this. Do the ones who don't escort see the same distinctions as Tori? Do the ones who do escort see the distinctions, but the money is simply too tempting to turn down, regardless of what they have to do for it?

CL

[Dragonetti]

http://www.maxeslondonescorts.co.uk/bibi.htm

[paroxysmia]

Freaky girl.

[Winston]

She doesn't raise this topic, but an interesting issue is the case where the porn producer is both producer and performer (e.g. Rocco, PW, CC), i.e., he is both punter (he's paying for sex, in a sense) and porn performer at the same time. Distinctions get blurred. So does the role of the woman performing with them also get blurred?

Please don't try to confuse Tori with "trick" ( ) questions like that.

Isn't it obvious that she appears to already have quite a bit/enough going on in her pretty head. ...

[philippe xxx]

Call it whatever you want that makes you feel better!!

Why wouldn't she think it's different, if it makes her feel better ? After all, thinking it's the same thing makes /you/ feel better.

[Patrick2]

I just hate to be cynical but in simple terms is it not money the forcing function that results in sex?

Yes, money is the deciding factor but the same can be said for anyone working today. I may like my job but I would stop working there if they stopped paying me. Wouldn't you?

Tori may believe in her mind that she is not a hore but just ask any fundamental muslim or christian what they think. :

What does that have to do with this? Don't both of these Religious groups think that gays are devil spawned who should burn in Hell? I'm also pretty sure that they think that men and women having unmarried sex is a huge sin and those that do it are just basically whoring themselves. The opinion of Fundamentalist groups should usually be taken with a box of salt if at all.

Paid to have sex on or off camera is the same thing!! Call it whatever you want that makes you feel better!!

You may not think it's different but it is actually quite different. A guy who hires an escort and films himself having sex with her is breaking the law because he hired the woman to have sex with him. Just because he filmed himself doing that doesn't change the fact that he only hired the escort to have sex with her. A girl like Tori who is hired to shoot a scene with another person is not there because the other person wants to have sex with her since that person is also being paid to have sex. Both of them are being paid by a third party who doesn't want to have sex with either person but wants to film them doing it and who will then make money from the release of the scene.

[Ricardo Soli]

I just hate to be cynical but in simple terms is it not money the forcing function that results in sex???

Tori may believe in her mind that she is not a hore but just ask any fundamental muslim or christian what they think.

Paid to have sex on or off camera is the same thing!! Call it whatever you want that makes you feel better!!

This is how you think. And you have the right to think how you want. Muslims can think differently as christians, and as everyone else human in the world, religious or not on about different things related to sex, life, death, etc.

[philippe xxx]

You guys can argue all you want about this (and it pops up from time to time here), but it's more or less pointless. There isn't and there will never be a final truth to this debate because perception is everything.

When they don't escort, the pornstars generally argue (just like Tori does in this video) that of course porn and escort are 2 different things! They say they're not paid by a client, but by a third person, they put up a performance for the camera, blah-blah... But of course, as soon as they start escorting, they decide that it's the same thing. Because they argue, in porn and escort, you get paid to have sex...

I guess that's the beauty of cognitive dissonance. You adapt your beliefs according to your behaviour, not the other way around.

Now for the fun of it, i'll defend the "it's the same position" (because me too I love pointless debates)

Guys who think it's different, Imagine a world where escort is practised in the same conditions as porn.
The girl goes to a studio everytime she gets a booking. She gets around 500€-600€ for a half day of work but only about 2h00 with one guy, the rest of the time consisting of a bit of socialisation, a make-up artist who takes care of her, etc... There's never more than one guy per day. There's no waiting for the client, no other girls to compete with, everything is already booked. The ambiance with everyone is fun and relaxed. Of course the clients are all young, nice looking, sympathetic, and good fuckers. And everybody is tested for all sexual diseases. Finally although the client pays the money (and the girl knows it), she doesn't get the money directly from the client but from the agency when she leaves, like a normal pornstar job.

So basically, the only difference with a porn job is that there's no final product, no film being made.

Now with all those criterias, what you think all those regular pornstars (I'm not talking about newbies) who say they would never be escort (and they mean it) would do if they were proposed this job ? Do you think they would still say: I don't want to do this job because "I'm not for sale, I don't want a client to buy me..."

Hum. Really ?