ARENA

[Pierre Woodman]

and to make a war is running your business

No man, making war just ruin business and you're the best exemple for this !!! Find me one post here or on my forum where I start to attack someone with hate, there are not but I can show you hundred where you did it ... I believe in Karma, reason why I'm a cool guy, I never forget what people did for me in good as in bad, but you yes, you could sale your parents for 10 euros and even make the home delivery if we give you 20 !!! Just for all what I did to help you since 15 years, you should have never just said ONE BAD WORD about me !!! Shame on you ...

PW

[UDO]

and to make a war is running your business

No man, making war just ruin business and you're the best exemple for this !!! Find me one post here or on my forum where I start to attack someone with hate, there are not but I can show you hundred where you did it ... I believe in Karma, reason why I'm a cool guy, I never forget what people did for me in good as in bad, but you yes, you could sale your parents for 10 euros and even make the home delivery if we give you 20 !!! Just for all what I did to help you since 15 years, you should have never just said ONE BAD WORD about me !!! Shame on you ...

PW

again you talk, without to think...don1t attack, and you'll not be attacked.
destroying business-
I was one whom was living a life between youngs, talking on they're language, and delivering them to the business. You've got them ready to listen at you, because they were already trusted me. But you wanted all to be under your control, and not mine. This is the most important thing for you. Does'nt matter from where you get a girl sitting in front of you, it's the most important to forgot her parents, friends, or agents, and to accept you, to believe everything you tell to them. Than you can do whatever you want, and manipulate them keep them under "Woody" drug. Until you accepted my rules, and let me to have the control on the girls I introduced to you it was working our business relationship. But when you just started to ruin me, and taking the control, what does this count for me how much help you had before on to can build my business ??? When you gaved something you've got something in exchange. It is so fuckin simple for many people to understand, but not for you.
Just today you've put a picture in Monika Sweet topic viewtopic.php?f=19&t=3492&start=180 .
So when you try to inject in people mind, agents are pimps, because they want to earn money after every movement and money theyre models make, I am asking you, who you are when after 15 years you're using this model's already changed image to make out some money propmoting your old stuffs maded with them ?
So don't come to me with your blahblah, trieing to make me feel sorry for you. I am not a new model sitting in front of you in a casting. I am someone with whom you did business before, and you betrayed him, destroyed him, and now you're trieing convince him he is wrong and to remain quiet, accept theese facts, it is over to him.
The only problem is you've got this time a kinda "son of the bitch" opponent whom does'nt have much more to loose, and would just help you by telling into your face who you are.
You should realise that until you had in the business girls were doing it because of fun, and enjoyment, they were long term pornstars, everybody loved them exactly because they were not easy to be buyed for cash. Today you have only whores in the biz., short term pornscorts, because theese are the girls you're looking for. You can't control them trough people as me I was for you, only with your money, and you can enjoy the result. Not only you, all business, until it's you the "biggest casting agent of this new generation ". There is some rest of Jo, Eve Angel, Cayenne from the old school of Ricardo, but you do all you can to change this biz into a pornscort brothel.Now the new models they have new examples-images like Aletta Ocean ( good for plastic surgeons, and High Class escort people),Amirah's, Sophie Lynx's, and almost 80% of biz good for mid class-pornscort escort related people, than just try to explain Mr. Woodman you don't have anything to do with escort business, you hate this When from your past all hungarian girlfriends of yours were more escort girls than models. At least me, being condamned for pimping I had girlfriends they were never escorting, or only 1-2 or of them when broken with me and getting in friendship with you and your girlfriends... If I was a so big pimp, and living from the money of my girlfriends, why they did'nt were escorting the time they were with me ??? I could make a lot of money with them, don't you think ? And why Yasmine Fitzgerald for example she had to do escort when she was your girlfriend ? Why Sophie she never had to work in a normal job, but doing some "swimsuit promotion for Dubai sheiks" and becoming your rich gf ? Why this could happen, when you Mr.Woodman you hate so much the escort biz., that you're ready to pay and send some guys to make police reports, when you see some important girl, model of yours escorting for someone else?
Shame on you Mr.Perfect, not on me

[LEQUIPE]

This is absolutly not my business but now I think this little fight has to stop. A lot of things have been said nobody has something to win with this.

One of you must not answer and stop this nonsense !!! You've been good friends you are not anymore ? Ok. Go on with your life, go your way and stop using energy for internet wars.

At the beginning it was a little bit funny and instructive to read all this, but now I am sorry but it's a little bit uncomfortable. You've been good friends. Remember this.

Everybody should be respected, especially Pierre W. who changed this industry for a long time (good or bad, everybody has it's own opinion about that) and this include people who helped him doing his job.

This forum is about Eurogirls. Let's talk about girls

[Am0rIn0]

that is why the arena was founded. so round 10. fight!

[UDO]

Some more pics of girls having fun in Thailand... without any bad intention, only showing, there is life out of Woodman

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[UDO]

This is absolutly not my business but now I think this little fight has to stop. A lot of things have been said nobody has something to win with this.

One of you must not answer and stop this nonsense !!! You've been good friends you are not anymore ? Ok. Go on with your life, go your way and stop using energy for internet wars.

At the beginning it was a little bit funny and instructive to read all this, but now I am sorry but it's a little bit uncomfortable. You've been good friends. Remember this.

Everybody should be respected, especially Pierre W. who changed this industry for a long time (good or bad, everybody has it's own opinion about that) and this include people who helped him doing his job.

This forum is about Eurogirls. Let's talk about girls

Nice from you to post this song of Bob Marley, I was grow up on his music, but you must forgot as to a helpful one. You know why ? Just because Marley was a marijuana addict Try something else for woodman.

[Pierre Woodman]

No Armorino, you are a trouble makker so for sure you like see other fighting but Lequipe is right it's always sad to see such situation.
In reality I don't really need to answer anyone telling bullshit about me, I'm a big steamroller strong enough to do my road without care of all the morons, jealous, haters etc ... but it's like a sport for me to answer and fight sometime.
But know it's true it start to be enough and in this new year I will stay more focus on my job and will not take care about all liars coming here to spread bullshit about me. Ricardo has not found even a simple model since I fired him and from that I believe everybody can understand that my presence on his edge has something to do with his success as agent in past ( Without the photo of Sophie Lynx children on her fake FB managed by him he will have still a job ). Legalporno is arrived on the market in 2012 and my business has increased almost 20 % since that. And all others competitors are more or less in friendly relationship with me. So why should I take care about little dogs barking ?
I'm sure 2014 will be even a better year than the 5 latest for my sites. And soon I will start to shoot some very nice and class video in 4K just to walk a little bit on the X-art ground. ( Not sure I will do it long time if no successfull but I wlll try ).
So yes Lequipe, I should participate here just by publishing some girls pictures and speaking about DP, blow job etc ...
So from now I'll just do it !!!

PW

[Am0rIn0]

nobody is forced to take part in arena... and i consider myself as a rebel. i only provoke certain societys.

[UDO]

Game is over by my part too. I have already told what I wanted. And I can promise the same to not continue, until no more attacks, and spreaded lies about me. If Pierre will stop to spread bullshit( like he continues now again with Sophie Lynx and she's daughter ) I will stop to explain theese situations, and to defend myself, or telling more nice and true stories about Pierre.
It is true, I did'nt started any new model into hardcore since last year, because I did'nt really wanted, when all girls after 2-3 months continue in the escort, does'nt really motivate me to recruit them. But this does'nt mean I am not ready, and able for it if situation in the biz it change on a good way. There are many other soft related works theese days, are some of them better paying, and being more relaxed without the danger to get in trouble cuz of others, that I choose to work in that area. Girls can travel as you saw Leyla was in Thailand, you can see other girls like Gina Gerson she's the same in Thailand, Alice Romain the same. and they're are all in vacation, having fun, and making money in easy way, not the way of Woodman, listening at him. I don't have anything to do with theese girls, it is not me making them working, they're doing it themselve, as Leyla she's an independent model and having enough work without to be listed in any adult agency.Facebook, and other comunity sites can give enough contacts today for girls, if they're smart, and can deal with people, they don't need agents.So our work got deducted on a level of promoting the models, giving them advices in case, and not on organising they're works...

[UDO]

and let have some fun this sunday evening This is how a pornstar has to act today, as Ron Jeremy does it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xljA6zJn4I

[makker]

Haha, just imagine Pierre Woodman was doing that video It could get worse

[UDO]

Interresting article How do you like it Pierrot ?

Porn: why it was necessary to denounce the director Pierre Woodman and his methods

http://leplus.nouvelobs.com/contributio ... sager.html

[Cherry Agency]

Of course the majority of the users of this forum are industry insiders. And yes, those are making comments,telling the truth are banned,or censored, and forced to make duplicate accounts-multi identity. This is the first time you're telling the truth here.Congrats Pierre, keep it up like this But why ?
Because of you. The people have to lie, and find secondary ways to survive-BECAUSE OF YOU. Ebi has to be partner on your games, performers, agents, models, etc. to make your business running.

It's OK guys, think as you want, tell what you want, I know most of the people writing here are mostly from the business and my competitors with for some of them multi-identity. So I don't really care the attack and as i said I must let the dogs barking ...

PW

No she did not. She was sick for the entire month of December, and quarantined.

She also did her first scenes for us. It is easy to verify as her first STD test ever dates from the same period.

You were caught red handed yet you keep lying more and more.

Go ahead and reply with more irrelevant garbage like your post above. Pathetic.

Pierre , you need an assistant to remember you what, and when you lied, when comes the moment to try and tell the truth

This become pathological, I feel.

I agree with the Sineplex version. She did not work all of December.

The problem with lying is that eventually the truth prevails. Linda Sweet did not do an interview or any scene with PW in April 2012. Her first porn scene including anal was the middle of last year with Mike.

He supposedly released the pictures because he found out about her scene with Rocco. He was not even aware it was a photo set until I mentioned on this forum. And btw she has already made the video for Rocco at the time she did her photo set.And since when is Rocco your competitor. He is never on any forum nor does he claim any "first" like PW constantly wants to do.

I can only repeat to PW. Be happy with the genuine "first" scenes which you should get credit for. Don't pretend that every girl who does porn was initiated by you. And have respect for the models and your customers. Your policy of releasing scenes in 2 or 3 instalments is downright dishonest. Imagine if you bought an album only to find out a few months later that it was not the full album and that you would need to purchase the album again if you wanted the rest of the songs. If you want to do it this way inform your customers in advance that the scene is "to be continued".

Ok. So try and start again from the beginning.....
You've met Linda 1 year ago (not 2, but you wanted to be sure, you're the 1.st to meet her, and pre dated your casting intervieuw )
Sadly, Linda does'nt agreed to try your "famous anal system " she wanted to do only bg vaginal as she did it already many times.
You were thinking, she'snt that special, so let her go, and come back when she would do anal, cuz you need the girls only with anal.
In december her agent called you, and told you, Linda she's ready to do anal for you....but you were already tired, bored, Santa Claus, Christmas, family, fighting with people on forums, than New Year in Bangkok, holidays, and dreas about having 40 babyfaces waiting for you at Budapest airport with Maxwell Williams shaking they're asses at the arrival terminal of the airport. But, only few poor looking chicks, and no one wanted to try your anal cavity search system.No new models at the hungarian agencies, the russian models of Juliana already booked by all your competitors before to arrive in Hungary, so you called Linda's agent, telling her, you're balls are exploding and you need her immediately in Budapest. And because Tony had a big role on delivering Linda, you decided to use him as well in your scene. Next day you left Budapest, and travelled in Serbia to cast some new girls no one of your competitors was meet before you. http://3.hidemyass.com/ip-1/encoded/Oi8 ... MjIzMDk%3D
So the DAP of yours was shooted few days ago, after all your competitors did it. The problem was, that nobody told you the model already did it few times before you...They're interrest was to work with you (Linda, Tony ), not to tell you the truth.
THIS IS KARMA. When lieing to others, others will lie to you too.

[Pierre Woodman]

OK but then type again your google cache and find out when her casting was already online on my site because the first part is already there since few months and in October I have published her at EBI picture from WUNF ... but maybe best is just to ask directly to Linda herself !!!

PW

[robot]

No Armorino, you are a trouble makker so for sure you like see other fighting but Lequipe is right it's always sad to see such situation.
In reality I don't really need to answer anyone telling bullshit about me, I'm a big steamroller strong enough to do my road without care of all the morons, jealous, haters etc ... but it's like a sport for me to answer and fight sometime.
But know it's true it start to be enough and in this new year I will stay more focus on my job and will not take care about all liars coming here to spread bullshit about me. Ricardo has not found even a simple model since I fired him and from that I believe everybody can understand that my presence on his edge has something to do with his success as agent in past ( Without the photo of Sophie Lynx children on her fake FB managed by him he will have still a job ). Legalporno is arrived on the market in 2012 and my business has increased almost 20 % since that. And all others competitors are more or less in friendly relationship with me. So why should I take care about little dogs barking ?
I'm sure 2014 will be even a better year than the 5 latest for my sites. And soon I will start to shoot some very nice and class video in 4K just to walk a little bit on the X-art ground. ( Not sure I will do it long time if no successfull but I wlll try ).
So yes Lequipe, I should participate here just by publishing some girls pictures and speaking about DP, blow job etc ...
So from now I'll just do it !!!

PW

There is an easy way to stop all the fightinh - just post your updates when you shoot them and that's it. EBI is not meant to be anybody's propaganda machine, and noone wants to go through producers fighting non-stop in each girl's thread. This is why I created this "arena" but not only it fueled more fighting between new fighters (I didn't see that coming) but it failed to contain the other fights. DO YOU EVEN REALIZE THAT IT HURTS THE INDUSTRY AND THE VIEWERS' EXPERIENCE? people want to have fantasies, see their porngirls in sexually arousing situations, and seeing 10 posts about yogurt or dates or whatnot is not exactly the best way to deliver that.
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So if you guys all agree, let's proceed: noone says "i'm the first", just post your pic or video and that's it. Porn fans (and EBI staff) will thank you for less work having to moderate lengthy and crazy posts that should happen in some parallel universe ruled by nuts and madmen who care about the tiniest detail of a pornshoot.
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if you do not agree or keep fighting I'll create another arena. Just kidding. get ready to ramble! (NOT)
happy porn viewing and keep 2014 a more pleasant year than it has started. I'm just tired of all this shit