New porn without throat-grabbing/ugly male behaviour

[BigBear]

^ What are you talking about. Plenty of movies by these companies have scenes with this kind of behaviour as well.

And I no longer can stand to watch piece of shit actors like Nacho Vidal or Timo either. Is it so weird these days to just wanting to see a good old fashioned hard fucking without all this crap or a focus on that whole stupid gaping thing. Seriously, time spent showing gapes is time being wasted you could have seen some fucking going on!

[gape]

I'm sure alot of it is done for effect and not truely ugly, but I can't stand Bruno SX in some of the 21sextury shots. The pussy and brest slapping is a total turn off.
Hope he didn't put Belle De Jour off porn. http://t2.21sextury.com/scene/8394/Belle_s_Appetite/
His shit taling is so annoying too.

Again there may be no pain here, but the foot on head thing puts me off this DVD:

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Who actually likes Timo? the guy is a faggot

Agreed

[Xenomorgue]

What are you talking about. Plenty of movies by these companies have scenes with this kind of behaviour as well.

So what??? Just ignore all the aggressive porn and focus instead on the non-aggressive porn that you like.

Every month there are plenty of new porn releases. Many of them will satisfy your criteria.
Furthermore there are enough online tools (trailers, reviews) to help you make a choice.

I just mentioned the Elegant Angel label as a good starting point.
Now if you don't like Elegant Angel releases, that is your problem, not mine.

[Vulture]

Vulture -- I understand and share your dislike for aggressive porn.

What I don't understand is your implication that it is nowadays
difficult to find b/g porn without the aggressive elements.

It seems ro me that there are several good companies that release
the kind of non-aggressive porn that you are looking for.

May I suggest to you: Elegant Angel !

Other companies are Harmony, Jules Jordan and Private.

Harmony and Private I will give you but both release so little these days that it's a sparse diet.

With the other 2, I totally disagree. I have liked some of Jules' stuff over the years but it's very hit-and-miss and if it doesn't actually have throat-grabbing etc. (which it often does) it always has that sort of male-dominant brutish feel about it. Fairly joyless stuff that I have learned not to trust.

The last Elegant Angel release I bought was "Girls of the year 2010" at the beginning of this year. Don't recall the specifics but it was (a) very gonzo and (b) did certainly have some aggressive/dominant male stuff I didn't like. Manuel Ferrara was involved I think. It went in the bin after 1 viewing.

[Vulture]

So what??? Just ignore all the aggressive porn and focus instead on the non-aggressive porn that you like.

That's the whole point though. How can you when you have no idea on the style and feel of the film until you buy it? It's 1 thing buying a DVD and being a little disappointed with some of the camerawork, chemistry etc. but when I buy a porn DVD and find it has throat-grabbing etc. it is simply DEAD to me as an erotic tool before the camera even rolls and I feel very cheated. As someone who doesn't like throat-grabbing how do I avoid it? It is something that I think should be a fetish, whereas it is now endemic in "mainstream" porn.

You can't say "Oh well just enjoy the look of the women", the feel of the sex is utterly crucial to my enjoyment.

And this was never a problem between about 2000-2006 so I refuse to accept that I should just "get used to it". I never will. I don't see why I should have to. Porn has lost me as a customer if it can't separate aggressive male behaviour from non-aggressive male behaviour within its product.

[Vulture]

Oh God yeah, the foot on the girl's head. Just horrible. It's an ego thing, isn't it? It's a guy saying "Not only can I fuck this gorgeous girl in all of her holes, I can totally dominant her. Humiliate her." I can see that there may be a niche for this kind of thing and if the girls like it then that's fine by me and who am I to stand between them and the guys who they share those scenes with? But again, it shouldn't just be a standard part of modern porn. Most guys I'm sure (a) want to see the girls' faces and expressions and (b) are at least a little troubled by the imbalance of the male/female dynamic in those scenes.

I would seriously question whether it is totally consensual as well. We all know who call the shots in porn between men and women. I'm very worried that modern porn girls would be put off by being treated as less than equal in their scenes. Is there a genuine career path these days for girls who love hard sex but don't like the rough/humiliating treatment?

[Vulture]

Notice also that with that Timo cover, it strategically cuts the picture off at the bottom where (I assume) he has his foot on his female co-star's head. So again this makes it impossible for the buyer who may dislike that act to know until they've bought it (assuming they haven't seen a trailer, which may itself choose not to show it also).

If Timo was so confident that the action is fine and normal and wouldn't put anyone off then why has he chosen to do that? Because he's ashamed of it after the event IMHO and also has no problem whatsoever with selling his product under false pretences.

Cowardly stuff for me.

[hopless3]

Click on the picture in this thread and it will show you the full thing

[Vulture]

Click on the picture in this thread and it will show you the full thing

Ha! Oh fair enough, my bad. And at least she appears to be in to it.

The point does remain about most of this stuff not being apparent until you buy it, though.

[Dirk Nader]

Personally I don't mind some aggression however the rough, really rough shit has gotten waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of hand.

[IMaRetArd]

ok, so was this thread about promoting "clean non violence" porn or was it to complain on the violence porn?

[Xenomorgue]

^ Good point. I guess it is easier to complain than to point to something positive.

[slapherfaceharder]

I like it when the guy steps on a girls head during anal doggy. Do you consider that "ugly behavior" you prudes?

[pinkincide]

I just wish they'd stop spitting on the girls. JLYC used to make a point of lubing up the girls' assholes with actual lube. That was hot! Now it's loogies on the pussy, loogies on the ass, loogies on the face sometimes. It's fucking gross.

As to no more anal...good luck with that

[kickherface]

Oh God yeah, the foot on the girl's head. Just horrible. It's an ego thing, isn't it? It's a guy saying "Not only can I fuck this gorgeous girl in all of her holes, I can totally dominant her. Humiliate her." I can see that there may be a niche for this kind of thing and if the girls like it then that's fine by me and who am I to stand between them and the guys who they share those scenes with? But again, it shouldn't just be a standard part of modern porn. Most guys I'm sure (a) want to see the girls' faces and expressions and (b) are at least a little troubled by the imbalance of the male/female dynamic in those scenes.

I would seriously question whether it is totally consensual as well. We all know who call the shots in porn between men and women. I'm very worried that modern porn girls would be put off by being treated as less than equal in their scenes. Is there a genuine career path these days for girls who love hard sex but don't like the rough/humiliating treatment?

Hey look another brainwashed male feminist..."imbalance of the male/female dynamic"?? Maybe you should go write some poetry, bake some cookies, and have sex with a blowupdoll!