HIV case in LA - all productions stopped

[priapos]

Yes Lee, that calls for some deep, hard tonguing, then a great sucking action so her whole fucking insides blossom into my mouth

[dap-addict]

IS always sad when a human being gets injured/sick doing his/her job, minimize the risks in the way foward, can be done with more and a better testing system, or with condoms.Im not against condoms, but i hate when i heard people saying that porn without condoms is a bad example, is like wtf if you watch porn you should be 18 at that age you should know what are the risks of having sex without condom.

But i see where this thread is moving towards, another cheap bashing of the US porn...

I fully agee with your point about the need for improvements in the testing system, redeye.
But later you run astry and start the never ending and futile Euro vs US porn discusssion yourself!

I think a lot we see in the US shows us how mentally different Europeans and Americans are. Just take that single hiv case: As soon as that 1 case in five years was detected they start a hysterical debate on ADT, the control freaks come on board, the PC freaks go on... Here in Europe I hope we sort out things in another way. Take the syph crisis management in Prague in Summer 2007, take the Piter hiv case - which showed that performers and fan pressure is needed, but certainly not a hysterical anti-porn war. Take CC stateing his important insider info about British tests here. That`s our European way!


Btw, Euro vs US: If Europorn was condom only and US porn non-condom, I would watch only US porn. But this will never happen!

[camaban]

Boy this thread has certainly strayed off topic. This bickering & squabbling is really getting on my tits I dont always agree with Camaban, he's very picky, but i admire his discernment and discrimination as a porn aficionado and critic Chris is numero uno, and for good reason: he provides great pix and timely news without boring everybody with his personal musings Lange, our man in Scandia, is also a true connoisseur, no doubt And CC, well, that's another topic

What i dont like is this bullying of Redeye and others He's honest and articulate and has many good points Let's dont gang up on legitimate posters I hate the way this place has become so cliquish over the past year Everybody looks at what the most vocal posters say and take that as a norm to be imitated. Factions start to coalesce around certain posters and their fellow travelers. I dont deny that i too haven't succumbed to this temptation and probably still do, but i try to speak my own heart & mind.

Now we have a group called "Friends" (like those Friends from TV i guess). Who are they, the personal friends of Sbando & Frigo Well, No Problemo has no friends (jkg) & Bunny only has enemies

Thanks priapos that you calm it down and brought it back on topic. Sorry, sometimes I'm too emotional and forget about the topic, but fortunately I was not the off topic initiator this time.

And I agree with dap-addict. If Europorn would be condom only, I would look for other porn out there where no condoms are used. Or not buy anything if there's condom only worldwide.

[stefano sadistiko]

This thread is kompletly dead . We all know that any sex disease is badd but h.i.v. ist the worst .

[cleopatrox]

I read many materials about new HIV case and condom usage in porn. This is the best opinion what I have read!

http://blog.babeland.com/2009/06/18/belladonna-on-safer-sex-and-the-industry/


I think it is very important that such famous performers like Belladonna also not want mandatory condom use in porn. I was always sure that risk factors can not stop real bareback riders.

[cleopatrox]

If I understand correctly, porn roll again in USA. Brave performers continue practising unprotected sex for fun. Jayden Jaymes wrote on her blog 19.06.2009.

I shot a GREAT scene for Chris Stream/Jules Jordan a couple days ago with Mark Wood. Surprise, surprise… it was a creampie (internal pop shot) scene. I don’t regularly do those, so it was quite exciting. ..

http://jaydenjaymesxxx.com/?p=68

[dap-addict]

I read many materials about new HIV case and condom usage in porn. This is the best opinion what I have read!
http://blog.babeland.com/2009/06/18/belladonna-on-safer-sex-and-the-industry/

Excellent!
I feel I was maybe hitting the US mentality too much, becasue Belladonna is American, too, and just says the best thing about all the health and condom debates in the ValleyI have read in ages:

As for condoms, personally, I can only be as safe as I can be without diminishing the value of what I’m trying to accomplish. Condoms just don’t feel good to suck on, or to take in the ass, hard and fast. If I were required to use condoms, my performance would most likely suffer, and in the end I would suffer.
(...)
To be perfectly honest, I understand my job is a high risk job, but there are many high risk jobs out there like, construction workers on skyscrapers, oil riggers, stuntmen… but when these people get hurt on the job, do you see the world turning it into something its not? No, it’s just because people are not comfortable with themselves sexually and have to point fingers at us to make themselves feel better about it.

[dap-addict]

Anyway, its just 3 more days to go and than they can shoot again in the Valley!

Seems porn productions are back to norm in the US.
A few performers may turn condom only for some buffor time like it happened before, but finally realism will win.
Please read the Belladonna blog about her more frequent testing leading to zero STD infections despite strictly non-condom scenes for over 5 years!
That`s a way to go and save the biz being still a role model and export destination for Europorn!
All I hope is really nothing of the past 14-day US-hystery to swap over to Buda/Prague/Piter!