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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Oeil2pirates on Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:00 pm

Pierre Woodman wrote:LOL you tell I speak about money but find the way to pretend girls get 1800 euros with LP !!! It's happen in past yes but I want see who get it there in 2017 !!!

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You are right we have not the same point of view but i want to give one point. I never tell that i consider 1800 euros like a big amount for a scene. It's exactly the contrary and this amount, yourself on your forum you gave it... Whatever, 250 euros or 1800 euros is crazy if we consider that 20 years ago, models could get much more and should do not so hot. For instance, now, the health of the model can be a question - this activity begins dangerous - dp, triple, fist and piss for very small money... For all these points, you can't tell that Viola will be rich if she begins a career in usa. Nobody knows this, a model must make many films to get big big money and can come back broken such Meridian...

ps : you talk normaly with us here and on your forum you insult us in the part of Viola. I am surprised that you attack EBI to let people give point of view. Concept of forum is to have differents point of view. You erased almost all your contribuors on your forum and now there is just your fan - you can play to be a guru but not everywhere... Of course, insult or try to hurt somebody is not a good way and when you give your nickmane that lp gave you, it's undecent from them, i agree with you but in the other case, you must learn to accept different point of views.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Pierre Woodman on Fri Jan 20, 2017 1:07 am

It's OK we understand you're not my fan but whatever you think, I'm a cool guy and what you said is not true, lot of people can have different opinion than me and speak about it on my forum but considering the fact some specific assholes have nothing better to do than coming for insult, yes I had to become a bit more " drastic " and fired many accounts which was just some very wellknown guy that have been also very often fired here too ...
Anyway find me a porn director who answer to people on his forum, EBI forum and ADT forum ... It's a game that people in our industry don't like so much, they prefer use a nick name, hide themself behind a keyboard and tell bad things about others doing the same job. At least me I am ONLY ME and never used a second avatar nowhere to hide myself !!!

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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Majinbu on Fri Jan 20, 2017 3:22 pm

Hello Pierre,I have seen in the last two videos (Angel Rush and B.Glover) that you came to see the scenes of pissing. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
We might ,one day, see the complete scene pissing Viola( and maybe Stella Cox ) ???? :P :P :mrgreen:
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Pierre Woodman on Fri Jan 20, 2017 11:13 pm

I warned on my forum to not push or request anything else more than what I decide sometime to give or I will go back to zero. So better not speak about this ...

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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Majinbu on Sat Jan 21, 2017 12:49 pm

ok :!: :!:
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby myarterotica on Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:07 am

Oeil2pirates wrote:For you, everything is question of money. it's sad vision. You don't consider the pleasure to be an honest person who let clean her family name and make proud father. Eastern Europe is not Occident, moreover USA where the brain are destoy by a system is not a reference. Money is not the center of the life. I am happy for Viola that she didn't sell her soul and in first for Greg Lansky where white girl is a target for black men. Moreover often you tell that you don't like girls who make this job for money and here, you talk only about money. Then it's not logical. You are right never she will forget what she did but did you help her not to begin ? No, you pushed her without considering point of view of her family. For your pleasure and also our pleasure, you make her life more difficult. I don't think so that the destiny of a girl is to have piss in the mouth. In 10 years when she will remember this, at this moment she will have tears in the eyes but never because family told her to be honest, then it's unfair to present family such bad and pron industry like good.
To live in USA is boring, very boring, of course there is money, big money (and i can understand the interest to be pron actress in usa, level of money in Europe is ridiculous (250 euros for a scene or 1800 euros for Legal Porno where the girl is considered such an object that we could destroy), but i prefer when everything is clean. Viola did the right decision. You are clever Pierre Woodman, you have understoood that girls have a brain who is in double vision (angel/evil) but you use your aknledge to bring them on a way which is terrible for many of them.

Eastern Europe is the last part in the world where there is decent behaviour then better to protect this part of the world. If some girls want to make porn. It's perfect, i don't judge at all this point. If you want to enjoy with them, it's perfect for me but don't push honest girl to be bad and to hurt family.


Are you insinuating that a girl sells her soul if she lays down with a black man?? How would that be any different from her doing BG porn with a guy who is not her boy friend in the first place? Are there levels to selling one's soul?
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Oeil2pirates on Sun Feb 19, 2017 11:21 pm

Are you insinuating that a girl sells her soul if she lays down with a black man?? How would that be any different from her doing BG porn with a guy who is not her boy friend in the first place? Are there levels to selling one's soul?[/quote]

It will be the same. But i will draw members' attention to a few points. Since couple of months Woodman talks about Greg Lanski because he can have an interest in this, i suppose. But this guy is surfing on the way to give white girl to black men. This vision is not clean for the girl who are considered like a piece of meat. And it's not nice for black guy too who are considered just like guy who are here only to be considered by size of dick. Last point, and i am not the first to tell this, us porn industry actualy wants make money with white productor on film Black for White... Then give theirs girls to the others. It's first time in the history that we accept to give ours wifes even in real life because people who watch this are in this mood... Then all is discusting. No respect for anybody...

Watever if you look the way of the porn actualy where the goal is to humiliate a girl, try to hurt her is the best sign of the end of this business... It's not piracy which is dangerous but this last level that we can consider since couple of months.

To finish, there is not so many money in usa, if girls such Megan Rain must go to Legal Porno. And for the idea that european model must go to usa and get excellent money, the kind of model for us market is not in the profil of the european actresses.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Pierre Woodman on Tue Feb 21, 2017 12:40 am

Come on, humiliation, hard treatment etc ... was same already 25 years ago and when Gabriel Pontello was fisting, pissing, spanking all poor Hungarian and Czech girls there was not any difference with today except that at this time there was so many productions more importantes, a business where soft work was making good money, that nobody really care about the crazy jobs some people was producing.
Today the business is dead and the main companies are just the money landering of the piracy. The people want rude situation for girls and romantism doesn't have any place anymore in porn world, that's all !!!

You're wrong about USA, it's still the place where the girls are the best paid and where there is the biggest possibilities of work for actors. If Megan Rain went to LP it was not in Europe but in Mexico and in theory to earn 8000 $ which is not a small amount. We know the story, she refused to do more that 2 scenes on 4 supposed be done and didn't get paid.
Without the scandall on social network, probabily never got a cents, but pushed by pressure of opinion, at the end the head office in Prague send what was missing for her and the agency.

Me speaking about Greg Lansky, yes I do because I know him, we are in friendly relationship, but I don't have any specific interest in it, I just respect this guy for his professionalism. He does very nice job and when a girl shot with a black men it's because she wants it.
This morning myself I did a Wunf with Linda Moretti, including 2 white men and a black. She was very excited by this and enjoyed, what's wrong with that ? It's same for Lansky, if girls want take a BBC, what's wrong with that ???

I think you are the person missing of respect to others, not us ...

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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Oeil2pirates on Wed Feb 22, 2017 5:27 pm

Pierre Woodman wrote:
I think you are the person missing of respect to others, not us ...

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Are you the right person to give me a moral lesson ??? For the money and your pleasure, you will try to deal with the bad face of the girls. You are clever and fox, you have understood that in society without father they can do all the stupid things... Moreover for a girl, when they do something, they consider if nobody learn it, this point doesn't exist. It's for this that among your proposition you explain that websites where they can be will be hide in their country. In psychology, Girls can't decide when it's right or not, they dislike men who tell " may be " or " i don't know ", everytime in the strong civilisation it's the man who is the reference. If this man has a bullit in the mind, we find this catastrophic situation. About productions and the taste of humiliation, you told us one thing (this bullshit production exists since a long time) and another opposite thing, now customers want such things... Then, you told us that now they do this because there is pressure of poor guys who take a revenge from the real life to humiliate girls because of an absolutly poverty and donwgraded of the human relationship (such they are described in Houellebecq' novels... Finaly you proved us that the way of this business is wrong It's not because my client would like something that if i consider this wrong, i will do... Last point, girls are better paid doesn't mean that they are well paid. Sorry but 8000 dollars for 4 scenes where you are humiliated, with two dick in the ass, if you tell that it's a way to become rich it's a big joke. IN 90's, the price for a beautiful girl such Viola was more near of 20 000 dollars for one scene even without anal penetration. It's unhonest to tell that girls become very rich in usa just because they decide to cross Atlantique. If Viola can read my message, i think so that she must think a lot and she is right to try not to hurt her family just for a selfish pleasure of us. And make a scene with a black guy can be taboo in eastern countries, if you don't respect this, you must not go on to go in these countries.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby cosmic on Wed Feb 22, 2017 7:41 pm

Many years ago a famous French actress claimed that most of the porn film directors have big personal problems.........
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Pierre Woodman on Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:45 am

Do I look like someone with "big personnal problems " ??? I know many people wish it can be like that but I am a fucking happy person and I hope my life will stay so cool as it is ...
About Viola, or any girl on earth, they have the right to decide what kind of dick they wanna suck ... Anyway her pussy is so tight that I don't really think she can handle a BBC after the Danny D or Kay Taylor was already too much and made her cry ...

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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby cosmic on Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:30 am

I think that many directors are fundamentally misogynistic and who enjoy direct or indirect humiliating young girls to satisfy their instincts and hidden perversions to balance their private unsatisfactory sex life
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Oeil2pirates on Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:43 am

cosmic wrote:I think that many directors are fundamentally misogynistic and who enjoy direct or indirect humiliating young girls to satisfy their instincts and hidden perversions to balance their private unsatisfactory sex life


You are absolutly right... All can be explained in the life by personal consideration... And here, there is on the stage, a big vanity, the will to want to fuck all the girls on the earth... They want to be guru or superman and doesn't accept that somebody resist them... If you read forum of Woodman. You will consider the difference between the words that he hold with girls who refuse to go to him or stop to believe him and when he can take control of one model... It's the same with the way that he talks with person on this same forum. He is not so polite than here... The world of porn director is a world of manipulation and egocentrism. Moreover it will interesting that he learn us how he got by the past very fresh girls with the complicity of the boyfriend of them... You will understand how this porn business smells bad...

Pierre Woodman wrote: About Viola, or any girl on earth, they have the right to decide what kind of dick they wanna suck ... PW


Answer is no... Because girls tota mulier in utero.

Girls go everytime with man who has power, exotism or the bad person because of their masochism and in a society without father, nobody can protect them against this instinct.
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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby Pierre Woodman on Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:54 am

LOL I don't know if all porn directors have some ego/misogynistic personal problems ( some of them yes I agree ) but what is sure some guys here need to see a psy !!!
What you wrote above has no sens, porn is not a bader world than any other type of business. When you are in a office you can have a boss making pressure on you, and it's same in all category of business until it's not you the boss.

Concerning the way I speak about girls, yes I think anyone if he feel betrayed in any way, and again it's not connected to porn business but to all situations, will not send flowers verbaly or by post to the person he think deserving it.
The porn directors are what they are but mostly I can said they know what they do and want but the women change their mind so fast that you never know what they will tell tomorrow about a past situation. It's enough they cross a new boyfriend, fall in love and they tell the opposite of what they said the day you met them.
Now Viola since a week is in a new "period" of her life and I got a message 3 days ago which was 360° from what she told me in january which was already a 360° from what she told me few months ago.
Better you spend your time to play tennis or go to cinema than try understand women ...

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Re: Viola Bailey's

Postby paroxysmia on Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:40 pm

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