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Postby Am0rIn0 on Thu Jul 30, 2015 12:31 pm

david-perfectgonzo wrote:I just wondered: why the hate for Legalporno as a production studio for being owned by a company who operates free tube sites? I don't get it. Then we should also hate Realitykings, Twistys and Brazzers because they operate Youporn and Pornhub? There is nothing that makes Youporn or Pornhub ethically any more legit or better than xvideos. Nothing at all. They were all built on stolen content using loopholes in DMCA law.


Yes but LP is woodys biggest competitor, so he is sensitive on this topic. I can understand it, as xvideos feeds LP so LP doesn't need to make any profits and can still survive. It is similiar to what I noticed recently that I have to deal with models who usually do bg "private scenes" for punters and big money, what spoils them as they ask same for productions. As somebody who aims for profit it is hardly possible to compete with rich people who just do it for fun.

david-perfectgonzo wrote:Sorry guys it was my fault we got into this discussion -- and we got so offtopic. My apologies, back to beautiful Joleyn Burst :D



If Joleyn stopped there will not be much news about her anyway. But somebody should open a business discussion thread where we can debate such think like tubes, business models, 4K... as I appreciate your expertise, style of debate and even your content a lot and I am always eager to learn.
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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby olga cabaeva on Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:10 pm

Am0rIn0 wrote:
david-perfectgonzo wrote:I just wondered: why the hate for Legalporno as a production studio for being wned by a company who operates free tube sites? I don't get it. Then we should also hate Realitykings, Twistys and Brazzers because they operate Youporn and Pornhub? There is nothing that makes Youporn or Pornhub ethically any more legit or better than xvideos. Nothing at all. They were all built on stolen content using loopholes in DMCA law.


Yes but LP is woodys biggest competitor, so he is sensitive on this topic. I can understand it, as xvideos feeds LP so LP doesn't need to make any profits and can still survive. It is similiar to what I noticed recently that I have to deal with models who usually do bg "private scenes" for punters and big money, what spoils them as they ask same for productions. As somebody who aims for profit it is hardly possible to compete with rich people who just do it for fun.

david-perfectgonzo wrote:Sorry guys it was my fault we got into this discussion -- and we got so offtopic. My apologies, back to beautiful Joleyn Burst :D



If Joleyn stopped there will not be much news about her anyway. But somebody should open a business discussion thread where we can debate such think like tubes, business models, 4K... as I appreciate your expertise, style of debate and even your content a lot and I am always eager to learn.


Agree! It will be nice to have just business discussion topic!
About shooting bg with private clients, you must tell "thanks" to some model and pornstars escort agencies! Sometimes girls even don't know when they do private unpublished shot....Sometimes girls advertised themselves "available for private foto/video shot".
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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby andybaxx on Thu Jul 30, 2015 1:26 pm

Agree! It will be nice to have just business discussion topic!
About shooting bg with private clients, you must tell "thanks" to some model and pornstars escort agencies! Sometimes girls even don't know when they do private unpublished shot....Sometimes girls advertised themselves "available for private foto/video shot".[/quote]

Or the porn/erotic agency send them to private clients, take a camera and shoot in pov, the girl think you're a prod but that you never will publish the material she not know. The man gave when he do it like this cheap escort and he've not to pay per hour but per scene. Private clients pay maybe more then the models who're ew think they can take this also from others.
I'm also agree with such an topic, one like the pornstars escort thread but for technical and other things.
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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby Pierre Woodman on Fri Jul 31, 2015 4:46 pm

Then we should also hate Realitykings, Twistys and Brazzers because they operate Youporn and Pornhub? There is nothing that makes Youporn or Pornhub ethically any more legit or better than xvideos


There are big difference even if apparently there are not !!! First of all Brazzers owned by the Mindgeek group if try to destroy the industry by giving for free in priority PART OF THEIR OWN PRODUCT to rapatried customers to them and they have signed an agreement with thousand of company to not steal their content. About You Porn, the ex owner JT is a good friend of mine because also he knows to build up some good deals with producer and is always ready to fly even over see for a meeting but Stephane, the X-Videos boss, think he is Louis XIV and the world belong to him !!!
At begining of WCX on the net in 2009 I have tried to make a correct approach and speak but his arrogance and attitude showed me immediatly how bad person he is. Then we started to fight and step by step make my content been erased from his site but when for instance I find a video of Viola Baileys on his site, his support told you that IT'S YOUR FAULT IF YOUR VIDEO HAS BEEN PIRATED because they have installed a finger print system who oblige you to GIVE THEM ALL YOUR VIDEOS ( giving them the power to send it everywhere as they want ) and if you forget to make it, they said you are RESPONSABLE for having your material on their site !!! It's INSANE !!! ( a personal finger print system cost 40 000 Euros/month so it's start to be a lot, especialy considering the few 'trust" you can have in that kind of people )
On top of this, he is the only tube honors to pass his life to write all girls FB and twitter that I am an asshole and they must go to work for him more than me because I'm an horrible "mithomaniac" !!!
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Anyway I decided that now I have no more feeling to speak about this people anymore, my business is successful, my life is good, I have more and more difficulties to find models but still I do a lot of exclusivities, so I think now I will not communicate anymore about LP because it has no sens and if some people like work with them, it's their right as it is my right to not like LP/Xvideos for what they are and do to the girls !!!
Future will said if the world will continued this way or not but what ever it will be, soon I will be relax on the beach with a cold drink in my hand, time many of you, here, will have to deal with all this for the end of the time !!!

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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby andybaxx on Fri Jul 31, 2015 10:09 pm

About this tube and pirate sites I´ve no idea and it´s not my business, I´ve my memberships and pay for it because I want have good quality porn and photos and legal downloading.
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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby horndogger on Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:27 am

Pierre is very negative about the business today. Some of his points are valid, no debate that piracy has smashed the industry. LP is not the best, and if I see another anal scene with Sandra Luberc, Susan Ayn, Linda Sweet, Blanche Bradbury or Timea Bella, I'm going to jump off the Golden Gate Bridge !!

My point about Woodman Castings has always been the stupidly slow release of content with promises going unfilled for years. Just last year he mentioned closing the site if the numbers don't improve. LP is not the problem, because even other competitor sites like DDF and 21sextury have more traffic. Don't blame others or follow them when releasing scenes. If you have the 1st time exclusives, release your content quicker and grow your membership by cracking the USA market. No studios or sets to coordinate, no picture galleries or BTS to edit, why does it take 6 years to release a handycam hotel room casting ? Is that LP's fault ?
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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby Pierre Woodman on Sun Aug 02, 2015 10:13 am

OK I see !!! In france we call it "dialogue de sourds" ( speaking to the deaf ) !!!

I speak about someone who steal my car in my garden and you tell me it's because I didn't have parked a Porsche instead of a BMW that I got this problem !!! I don't see any reason to continued that kind of idiotic discussion ...
I just know that June and July have been my two best months ever at WCX and by random it's the months all pirates was complaigning on all forums they can't find Viola Bailey's video. From the second I let it for download and without my new anti-piracy system, all became "normal" with the usual money income !!! So this is the formal proof how the pirates fuck up our industry, but no one care here and prefer ask me why I wait to release some of my videos !!! I understand more and more every day why those guys are rubbing their hands with a smile and even are enough ironics to send me such request :

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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby andypandy on Sun Aug 02, 2015 4:50 pm

hmm...
in my opinion you should be like...Justin Timberlake :)
what I mean by that? Justin Timberlake is a music performer, but he is famous not because he can sing. People on behalf him create particular content, content people desire. You and your "mind" team are responsible to make your content like Viola Bailey videos. This kind of content use a kind of "string theory" ( and you probably not even aware of it). This kind of content is very specific and makes you famous,( not even countable in terms of money but in terms of creating of quality porn culture).
LP is just a rough banging,no mind attached. :)
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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby Pierre Woodman on Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:30 pm

Thanks ! Hope you are right, time will tell it to us ...

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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby tittyleist on Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:11 pm

Pierre Woodman wrote:OK I see !!! In france we call it "dialogue de sourds" ( speaking to the deaf ) !!!

I speak about someone who steal my car in my garden and you tell me it's because I didn't have parked a Porsche instead of a BMW that I got this problem !!! I don't see any reason to continued that kind of idiotic discussion ...
I just know that June and July have been my two best months ever at WCX and by random it's the months all pirates was complaigning on all forums they can't find Viola Bailey's video. From the second I let it for download and without my new anti-piracy system, all became "normal" with the usual money income !!! So this is the formal proof how the pirates fuck up our industry, but no one care here and prefer ask me why I wait to release some of my videos !!! I understand more and more every day why those guys are rubbing their hands with a smile and even are enough ironics to send me such request :

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The viola bailey video was available for download around 7 or 10 days after it was available for stream. It would have been available within a day, but i get to understand pirates like to allow some time to past first. I knew it would be like that because it has always been like that. I still paid for the viola casting though, I felt it was a bit pricey, but it's ok.

What was not ok was the slow stream speed, and the limited views, and the unavailability of download files. This is despite Pierre having made back his investment with profits. What is not okay is Pierre annoying his paying members, like me. Eventually, a few more will think "why pay for crap service". Piracy is not going away. Honest customers will always pay to support content producers. It is generally not a good idea to perpetuate usiness practices that annoy paying customers.

That being said, i still will pay for PW's content that I like. I just wanted to rant a bit at the ole french boar .... It's like speaking at the deaf, they don't hear too well. :::
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Re: Joleyn Burst

Postby Pierre Woodman on Wed Aug 05, 2015 7:53 am

Thank you for your support but I don't want continued this discussion because obviously many people want see only the top of the iceberg !!!

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