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Postby dap-addict on Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:09 am

Steve wrote:It really is just a job unfortunately and the fantasy element that we seen and like is created usually in editing.


I would never question that its just a job.
But still to have material left in the editiong process there must be good moments on set, no?
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Postby maxpax on Sun Jul 01, 2007 3:34 pm

Why do we want this? Well simple as it is, humiliation of beautiful and young women!

Even more interesting, why is it nice to see a beautiful young woman getting humiliated - is it hatred towards women? Hmm do some guys enjoy seeing a nice girl getting slammed and humiliated as a revenge for being rejected? Thinking: "ha ha finally you got what you deserves, a big facial and forced to swallow."

Why should a 18 year old girl think it is great to be fucked by strangers?
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I know plenty of 18 year old girls, and they would never consider entering the porn business - they don't lack money.
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Postby dap-addict on Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:25 pm

maxpax wrote:Even more interesting, why is it nice to see a beautiful young woman getting humiliated - is it hatred towards women?


You are guiding us very much array of your original question now, maxpac. :o
But for sure I wouldnt take Iggis statement that serious. Porn was always about fantasy and it has neither to do with love nor hate, lest hatred towards women. Rather porn was always a world turned upwards down. Just check all those porn titles or Erik Everhards/Skeeter Kervoes/Steve Holmes etc. lectures on Romance for instance. Porn is just tongue in cheek fun, too.


But maybe we go better back to the question if, who and to what extent they enjoy their work. Talking about those 18 y.o. girls, who do enter porn and get "fucked by strangers". Though, they are not so much strangers than a very limited amount of male actors actually. :wink:
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Postby alexxx on Wed Jul 04, 2007 3:31 pm

I think that if you consider porn=just humiliating girls you are wrong.
Humiliation is in your point of view and it's something the viewers are looking for when they see a porn.
But porn is not just that for all the viewers. For someone is fun, for others is extreme...
Now, from the point of view of people working inside it's true that production must also consider the humiliation side because someone is looking for (then you edit, you ask the girls to moan...).
Sometimes to be more realistic you push actors and especially girls but deepthroating or a double anal cannot be simply classed as humiliation.
Some of the girls can feel that but others not.
It's horny, dirty but it's a job and nobody question that.
And now everybody ask for them then a girl who wants to enter the biz should be ready to do that.
Like for others job, you may choose where to work and who will be your partner.
Of course if you are good enough you may look for different jobs (not a gonzo but a movie with Woodman for eg), if not you are free to choose: I do or I don't.
It's a job and like others job it can be hard.
Porn production simply allows male viewers to see girls doing hard and allows girls to earn doing sex and, if you are good, becoming a porn-star.
I don't see any real humiliation.

Maybe the only exception is during the real castings or first scenes: there you may see some 18yo unexperienced having some problems. But it's a job and rarely I saw a girl going away also if the anal or the double was difficult to manage.
And when you have to work you don't have time to run behind the only who maybe felt "humiliated" or didn't want to finish her casting.
Of course someone likes that but in the other end you may have lost a nice pussy for your next shoot...

That's all.
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Postby dangl on Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:22 am

Iggi wrote:To be honest, really you guys, you care?

Porn is bizz, yes jizz bizz. If it would be easy, for each and everyone, hey why did i spend so many years studying and travelling all around, working 70-90 hours a week and a lot more stuff where people never think of when they arrive at home at 5pm? I could have said to myself when i was young, hey make gay movies, get screwed in my ass, sucking dirty cocks, rimming hairy asses, etc.! No, i did not take the easy way and most of the girls doing porn just think of the nice stuff .. travelling, getting the next Vuitton bag, working 2 hours a day and afterwards merry a rich guy.

So summing up, porn is for us who want to see what is unusual in a private life! I do not want to imagine if i fuck my wife's ass like a maniac, opening maximum, letting suck her my cock after penetrating her ass and give her the cumshot of my life straight to her face and mouth! Me thinks, i would not be able to type anything for the rest of my life! Why do we want this? Well simple as it is, humiliation of beautiful and young women!

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Ps: Please, don't be hypocrite, you want to see that stuff! Full stop!

how messed up do u have to be when sucking cocks straight out of your ass is the easy way?
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Postby dap-addict on Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:41 am

alexxx wrote:Porn production simply allows male viewers to see girls doing hard and allows girls to earn doing sex and, if you are good, becoming a porn-star.
I don't see any real humiliation.


Exactly! As the girls know what this kind of job involves there isnt any real humiliation. I also dont see it in castings - starting a career is often harder than persuing it later.

Interesting are your comments about producers keeping the humiliation aspect in mind for those viewers looking for exactly this part. I guess in US there is more such viewers. All that slapping and deep troat comes from there. Me, I am rather on the joy side of the game. Of course I do want it hard, but I enjoy it best when the girl enjoys it too. And I still see enough girls enjoying their porn job.
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Postby alexxx on Mon Jul 23, 2007 4:40 pm

dap-addict wrote:
alexxx wrote:Porn production simply allows male viewers to see girls doing hard and allows girls to earn doing sex and, if you are good, becoming a porn-star.
I don't see any real humiliation.


Exactly! As the girls know what this kind of job involves there isnt any real humiliation. I also dont see it in castings - starting a career is often harder than persuing it later.

Interesting are your comments about producers keeping the humiliation aspect in mind for those viewers looking for exactly this part. I guess in US there is more such viewers. All that slapping and deep troat comes from there. Me, I am rather on the joy side of the game. Of course I do want it hard, but I enjoy it best when the girl enjoys it too. And I still see enough girls enjoying their porn job.


Well, I wouldn't do the usual difference between Europe and US.
Think to some russian or german production... in Europe too there's a public for extremely hard scenes.
Deepthroat in one of the most common request and as you know well also DAP is becoming more and more appreciated by the public.
Think to how frequent are now the scenes with 2-3 guys and 1 girl!
So Europeans can be hard like the americans with a bonus more: we have in the Eastern Europe a real pool for new talents who are disposed to try.
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Postby XEXX on Tue Jul 24, 2007 12:49 am

Jap porn is actually good. Check out any Maria Ozawa movie and you'll see what I mean. She's gorgeous and the dudes always fuck her hard.
Jane Darling, Jaclin, Nora Davis, Luisa Rosellini... my top picks.
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Postby dap-addict on Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:33 am

alexxx wrote:Well, I wouldn't do the usual difference between Europe and US.
Think to some russian or german production... in Europe too there's a public for extremely hard scenes.
Deepthroat in one of the most common request and as you know well also DAP is becoming more and more appreciated by the public.
Think to how frequent are now the scenes with 2-3 guys and 1 girl!
So Europeans can be hard like the americans with a bonus more: we have in the Eastern Europe a real pool for new talents who are disposed to try.


Of course Europeans like it hard, too. I am one of them myself. :)
But I was talking about slabbing and gagging in addition to dap and deep-troat. Dap and deep-throat which are pretty standard nowadys, like bbbg of course is, seem not enough to the US mainstream hardcore porn fan buying from big companies like RLD, PXP etc.

And now this slabbing/gagging aspect of on set sex sure narrows the number of girls enjoying that part of their job.
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Postby alexxx on Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:49 pm

dap-addict wrote:Of course Europeans like it hard, too. I am one of them myself. :)
But I was talking about slabbing and gagging in addition to dap and deep-troat. Dap and deep-throat which are pretty standard nowadys, like bbbg of course is, seem not enough to the US mainstream hardcore porn fan buying from big companies like RLD, PXP etc.

And now this slabbing/gagging aspect of on set sex sure narrows the number of girls enjoying that part of their job.


I don't think RLD production harder than what we are doing in Europe.
Not all videos have slabbing while most of them have gagging.
Of course it's difficult to say if girls like but this will not stop production or girls who want to enter the biz.
Recently a friend coming back from Lviv (Europe, Ukraine) and working in the biz told me that most of the girls met there during a casting were available to all the scenes proposed which included DAP and heavy deepthroating. The oldest girl was 20 yo.
So do they like or not? :roll:
For sure they have no taboo and you will see in the next months.
But I fear you will not have any definitive answer to your question.
Enjoy yourself.
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Postby dap-addict on Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:32 pm

alexxx wrote:Recently a friend coming back from Lviv (Europe, Ukraine) and working in the biz told me that most of the girls met there during a casting were available to all the scenes proposed which included DAP and heavy deepthroating. The oldest girl was 20 yo.
So do they like or not? :roll:
For sure they have no taboo and you will see in the next months.


Sounds excellent! :D
Do you know how many girls he casted?

And: Of course they do it for the money, but there are always some who like their job. :)
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Re: Orgasms

Postby dap-addict on Sat Aug 11, 2007 11:50 am

dap-addict wrote:"Do these girls enjoy it?" :arrow: Yes, they do!!!
Enjoy! :twisted:


Maybe it´s not fashionable to think that some Eurobabes enjoy their job, but to who ever is interested to watch such scenes, here is another part of my list with scenes including daps, too:

MELISSA BLACK ANAL EXPEDITION 3 RED LIGHT
POLINA 2 DEEP 2 ROSEBUD
ALLYSIN MORE DOUBLE ANAL CLIMAX 2 DEVILS
MELISSA BLACK BOTTUMS UP 2 LEX DRILL
BIBI FOX Wrecked' em 2 ZERO TOLERANCE
SANDRA ROMAIN The Ole In and Out 2 ACID RAIN


For alexxx: Bump!
Just watched the weanwhile retired Ukrainian girl Polina in a few scenes again. If the Lviv girls your friend has casted are just half as into it, this town may developpe in the next big porn destination. :)
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Re: Orgasms

Postby steve cross on Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:08 pm

dap-addict wrote:
dap-addict wrote:"Do these girls enjoy it?" :arrow: Yes, they do!!!
Enjoy! :twisted:


Maybe it´s not fashionable to think that some Eurobabes enjoy their job, but to who ever is interested to watch such scenes, here is another part of my list with scenes including daps, too:

MELISSA BLACK ANAL EXPEDITION 3 RED LIGHT
POLINA 2 DEEP 2 ROSEBUD
ALLYSIN MORE DOUBLE ANAL CLIMAX 2 DEVILS
MELISSA BLACK BOTTUMS UP 2 LEX DRILL
BIBI FOX Wrecked' em 2 ZERO TOLERANCE
SANDRA ROMAIN The Ole In and Out 2 ACID RAIN


For alexxx: Bump!
Just watched the weanwhile retired Ukrainian girl Polina in a few scenes again. If the Lviv girls your friend has casted are just half as into it, this town may developpe in the next big porn destination. :)


Well, I heard, that in Ukraine, shooting porn is officially and strictly prohibited. Tell me if I know it wrong.
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Re: Orgasms

Postby gepont on Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:06 pm

dap-addict wrote:
dap-addict wrote:"Do these girls enjoy it?" :arrow: Yes, they do!!!
Enjoy! :twisted:


Maybe it´s not fashionable to think that some Eurobabes enjoy their job, but to who ever is interested to watch such scenes, here is another part of my list with scenes including daps, too:

MELISSA BLACK ANAL EXPEDITION 3 RED LIGHT
POLINA 2 DEEP 2 ROSEBUD
ALLYSIN MORE DOUBLE ANAL CLIMAX 2 DEVILS
MELISSA BLACK BOTTUMS UP 2 LEX DRILL
BIBI FOX Wrecked' em 2 ZERO TOLERANCE
SANDRA ROMAIN The Ole In and Out 2 ACID RAIN


For alexxx: Bump!
Just watched the weanwhile retired Ukrainian girl Polina in a few scenes again. If the Lviv girls your friend has casted are just half as into it, this town may developpe in the next big porn destination. :)


Oh, yeah, Melissa Black LOVES her job 8) I was lucky enough to shoot her a few times and she is a fantastic girl, lovely person, intelligent, smart and in the same time a total slut, I LOVE HER!
The only girl match her performance is American Eva Angelina, she can cum non-stop, she's a nightmare for the sound guys but everybody else on set will have a hard-on :wink:
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Postby dap-addict on Wed Aug 22, 2007 5:18 pm

steve cross wrote:
dap-addict wrote:For alexxx: Bump!
Just watched the weanwhile retired Ukrainian girl Polina in a few scenes again. If the Lviv girls your friend has casted are just half as into it, this town may developpe in the next big porn destination. :)


Well, I heard, that in Ukraine, shooting porn is officially and strictly prohibited. Tell me if I know it wrong.

I am not a lawyer specialized in the Ukrainian criminal code, but this rumour sounds absurd to me. And if there was any such paragraph in their law I am sure everybody breaks it and noone gives a shit. Apart from this Ukraine is one of the most corrupted countries I know, which means you always can sort out problems with some bakshish. But first of all the law enforcement bodies have to find out about what you do in your rented flat in Ukraine etc.
The only thing I see at the moment is building up all the filming facilities we are used from Budapest/Prague in a not yet porn touched town like Lviv. But than...Lviv is quite close to Budapest actually. :)
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