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Do the girls enjoy it?

Postby maxpax on Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:57 am

I'm wondering if the girls actually enjoy it in the same way as the guys? It's obvious that the guys enjoys performing, but how about the girls?

The girls are getting touched all the right spots, often have more than one guy to satisfy them. I don't understand if the girls do not get aroused by all that fucking and sucking - they must feel something???

I once heard that sections where a girls get an orgasm are cut out from the movies because they look stupid during orgasms.
Is that right?

In japanese movies there are a fetich called "forced orgasm" where a bunch of guys keep on stimulating the girl for hours so she get numerous orgasms, and finally collapses with a tremendous amounts of facials. I think is cool :) I would love to see with a bunch of eurobabes getting forced orgasms. Sometimes its boring just to see the same guys wanking over a girls face... I would love to see something where eurobabes are the center of all attention rather than the guys cumming.
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Orgasms

Postby rashidnz on Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:56 am

Well if you havent checked out the bubblegirls site
its well worth a look
The girls there seem to have real orgasms as they get stimulated fingered and prodded with vibrators/dildos
its all about seeing the girl come
shot from the camera pov all you see are the guys hands touching the girl
Has various famous eurobabes
Sandra Shine,Eve Angel,Sophie Moone to name but a few

Seeing the guy jerk off over the girls face all the time is not as satisfying for some

Getting a real orgasm on set is not always possible for the girl
Position Changes,Nervous girls,Brutes treating the girl like meat puppets
The crowd factor, Lighting,Conditions Timing..

And of course "real" or faked without some closeups or distinct signs
Like the full body flush/blush,muscular contractions etc
A woman can gasp moan and shout Im coming
Whereas the facial is the guys proof that he did come
(Of course even the guys come shot can be faked/edited now)
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Re: Orgasms

Postby dap-addict on Tue Jun 12, 2007 6:29 pm

rashidnz wrote:Getting a real orgasm on set is not always possible for the girl
Position Changes,Nervous girls,Brutes treating the girl like meat puppets
The crowd factor, Lighting,Conditions Timing...


These factors also make it hard for the studs.
At the same time I dont believe in that Japaneese forced orgasm thing.


But if you dont mind daps, maxpax, you may check out this scenes for good anal orgasms:

MELISSA BLACK Double Anal Plugged 2 (RLD)
LUCY LOVE Ass Pounders 6 (LEX DRILL)
JULIE SILVER Cum in my Ass not in my Mouth 2 (RLD)
JANET ALFANO Un-natural Sex14 (DIABOLIC)
BIBI FOX 4X4 4 (EVASIVE)

"Do these girls enjoy it?" :arrow: Yes, they do!!!

Enjoy! :twisted:
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Re: Orgasms

Postby STEMCELL on Tue Jun 12, 2007 7:34 pm

dap-addict wrote:"Do these girls enjoy it?" :arrow: Yes, they do!!!

How do you know? Have you asked them?
Because: What do we know about what´s going on in another human being´s mind or brain cells ?
:arrow: N O T H I N G :wink:
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Postby Steve on Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:17 pm

The question is completely debatable. I have been on set many times and once the cameraman does his "cut" or in the cases I saw "koszonom", the girl generally starts up a conversation with either the director or cameraman and looks like nothing happened prior.

More often than not the "cut" is called because the male actor has lost his ability to perform and spends the next 2-5 mins walking around the room giving himself the good news with his hand.

Most if not all of the facial expressions and noises are faked. The girls orgasm section at the end of each movie is always done on cue (i.e. she just does the noise like a more intimate version of "when harry met sally").

You have to also remember that in an average shoot there is a director, a cameraman, a photographer, makeup artist, lightingman, etc in the room while its happening. Sometimes there is even a website designer or visitor or two milling around also!!

Frigo can probably vouch for most of this as he was with me once when we visited Kovi and our conversation was broken up as Kovi was shooting. We sat there watching a hard scene being shot and Frigo I am sure would say that it was false. I actually walked off into another room because it was getting so boring to keep seeing this day in day out.

So, from my perspective on this. No, none of them do it for the enjoyment of the scene. Its work and that is how its viewed. The ultimate motive is to receive a days pay. These actors and actresses are professionals and do it day in day out. Many of them are also married with children (male actors).

Much of the erotism of the scene and what makes it appealing is due to camera angles and the skill of the editor. What you see on your TV or monitor is definitely nothing like what happened on the day (from an erotic viewpoint)

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Postby Steve on Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:21 pm

Oh, there is one exception to this rule. I do remember an occassion when I was with a model and she had some news (in a language I don't understand). She started hopping around with a big smile on her face and was clapping her hands in glee.

I asked what had happened and she said "Oh, I am happy. I get to eat Maya Gold's pussy today!".

So, maybe... on the odd occassion it is enjoyed :D
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Bubblegirls

Postby rashidnz on Wed Jun 13, 2007 11:00 am

This site has the most"genuine"appearing orgasms
THE Viv thomas series Sticky fingers,and reality porn series
have some good solo scenes with "real orgasms"
Quotation marks because they look and sound real to me
but only the girl can know for sure
Of course if you follow a particular model you may recognise certain mannerisms in her scenes
like how Sophie Moon always give this cute smile after she comes

Or Peaches gasping panting and squealing<(overacting?)
Avalon being eaten and fingered by a girl in one scene and she spreads her labia and you can see her come

The dream stash one on one pov scenes seem more intimate and intense
The guy certainly comes the girls seem more on the clock than enjoying the cock
Mia Stone always seem to enjoy her boy girl scenes
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Re: Bubblegirls

Postby dap-addict on Thu Jun 14, 2007 4:27 pm

Steve wrote:Frigo can probably vouch for most of this as he was with me once when we visited Kovi (...) I actually walked off into another room because it was getting so boring to keep seeing this day in day out.

So, from my perspective on this. No, none of them do it for the enjoyment of the scene. Its work and that is how its viewed.


Of course it is work and I didnt claim anything else.
Still some girls seem to (yes, STEMCELL, we never actually know) enjoy what they do on stage. And those are the pricy moments for me as a porn fan. True reactions, not overtly obvious fake.

I also think we have to get past that "work/payment = no fun" view. Ideally work and fun go together. :)
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Postby Steve on Thu Jun 14, 2007 10:44 pm

Its an interesting and ultimately nice idea that work and fun go together. However, how many people can honestly say that what they do for work is exactly what they aspired to be. I would think the number is low.

Its the same in the porn industry as with any other. The money vs work will generally be the true answer is 9 out of 10 cases. There is always the exception and those are notably those people who go beyond the requirements of the job and create something breathtaking.

I have spent time watching models on and off the camera and I can from personal experience tell you that the models are generally happier when not in front of the camera.

Its also important to remember that in the porn industry the models generally create different persona's for themselves and become that persona when either working or meeting fans.

Most people who totally love the work they do are so involved in it that it becomes their entire life and they are actively doing it throughout their waking hours. I am kinda sure that most models would not leave the set and rush home to play with the biggest dildo they can find.

The porn industry is a fantasy world created in order to satisfy other peoples fantasies. Its fun on set and I do not dispute that but its usually scripted and directed. The fun is usually from funny incidents that happen and the crazy antics of the performers.

Its also worth noting that the average shooting day would start at around 6-8am in the morning and finish late in the evening. I attended a two day shooting for a planned Kovi website where 13 scenes were created during those two days. One of the models had to make an appearance in all 13 scenes and I can tell you that towards the end of the second day that model was totally burned out. I'm pretty sure that the model in question would not have been overly enthusiatic about the notion of work = fun during at that particular time :)
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Postby dap-addict on Fri Jun 15, 2007 1:30 am

Steve wrote:I attended a two day shooting for a planned Kovi website where 13 scenes were created during those two days. One of the models had to make an appearance in all 13 scenes and I can tell you that towards the end of the second day that model was totally burned out. I'm pretty sure that the model in question would not have been overly enthusiatic about the notion of work = fun during at that particular time :)


Thanks Steve for sharing all this insider knowledge with us!
As a porn fan I have watched quite a few Kovi films in the past and I have to tell you that I hardly ever got the impression girls enjoy the Kovi way of shooting a sex scene. :(
The girl starring in 13 scenes in two days sure earned a hell lot of money in a very short time. And that was it. She knew beforehand for whom she works and that it would be hard. Burned out as she was the second working day in the evening I sure dont expect her to go home and play with the biggest dildo available nor trying to get dapped by two big black studs. Still I would not exclude that a few days and a good rest later the same girl could actually enjoy a scene not shot by Kovi.
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Postby maxpax on Tue Jun 19, 2007 4:56 am

Okay, the girls hate their jobs - just like 95 pct. of us :)

So what about the guys? Do the guys love their job, getting so much of the scarced resource: pussy? Do they look foreward to their next shooting?

Tell me :?:
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Postby Steve on Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:03 am

Put your favorite record on. Play it constantly for about 10 hours. Tell me at the end if you still like that song?

If you do too much of something that you like, you soon start not liking it.

Hope that cryptically answers the question.
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Postby dap-addict on Tue Jun 19, 2007 6:52 am

Steve wrote:Hope that cryptically answers the question.


If porn was that horrible work, the girls would sell their body in another way and the studs could not keep wood at all.
Hope that makes sense - and is not too crypric.
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Postby Aussie Mike on Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:56 am

As a fan, I imagine in 99.99% of cases porn probably isn't what the girls dreamt of doing when they grew up. But really, there are worse jobs in the world...

If the girl is comfortable with her body and wants to earn better cash than working in a supermarket then it's not a bad choice. Bit hard to tell your mum, but the rewards must make it all worthwhile.

I just hope that girls don't get totally numbed to enjoying sex by working with it so much. As a guy... well, I imagine it would take a HELL of a lot of scenes for me to get jaded with the idea of having Ellen Saint or Maya Gold on a daily basis!! :D
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Postby nomad on Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:28 am

I have asked some escort ladies I met and who are/were doing porn movies about this. The answer basically was always the same: they don't enjoy it; but they also do not dislike it. It's a job and good money. Hard anal scenes sometimes can be a bit of a problem as it's very painful for some ladies.

Only one of the ladies told me she absolutely hated it; she stopped after one hc scene and only did lesbo/solo after that.

And interestingly they all told me that they still like private sex very much.
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