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Postby Keni Styles on Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:13 am

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gepont wrote:Well, I'd love to see more Euro girls working in LA, that would be a breath of fresh air to the industry, but the current Visa and 2257 requirements make it nearly impossible for any foreign models to work in the US.

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Visa restrictions I understand. But what´s the problem with the current 2257 requirements for Eurobabes?


As far as I know the models also have to have a form of american id, we need to go to washington and apply for id, register it from a american address and wait a month or so to get it.

If a scene is shot in the states then the companies are not supposed to film anyone without american id card. I know that some people and some companies bend these rules but this is mainly the norm.
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Postby gepont on Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:32 am

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gepont wrote:Well, I'd love to see more Euro girls working in LA, that would be a breath of fresh air to the industry, but the current Visa and 2257 requirements make it nearly impossible for any foreign models to work in the US.

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Visa restrictions I understand. But what´s the problem with the current 2257 requirements for Eurobabes?


As far as I know the models also have to have a form of american id, we need to go to washington and apply for id, register it from a american address and wait a month or so to get it.

If a scene is shot in the states then the companies are not supposed to film anyone without american id card. I know that some people and some companies bend these rules but this is mainly the norm.

Yes, If the shoot takes place in the US (or the primary producer based in the US), the performers must have at least 1 American government-issued ID (passport, greencard, driving licence, ID-card) and under the current rules after 9/11 it's very difficult to obtain one.
A group called the Free Speech Coalition fights to pronounce the whole 2257 unconstitutional on many different basis but it will be a long battle and the neo-conservative trend doesn't really promising, even under a new President from 2009
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Postby dap-addict on Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:47 am

Thanks a lot for this insight answer Keni and gepont! :)
It finally makes me understand why there are so little Eurobabes in the Porn Valley.

Do you know than how LA Direct Models managed to get that ID card for Marsha Lord, Maria Bellucchi and their other Eurobabes?
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Postby The Scandinavian on Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:51 pm

Keni Styles wrote:As far as I know the models also have to have a form of american id, we need to go to washington and apply for id, register it from a american address and wait a month or so to get it.

If a scene is shot in the states then the companies are not supposed to film anyone without american id card. I know that some people and some companies bend these rules but this is mainly the norm.

And how does this affect you guys over in the UK? The current UK-based talent pool looks amazing... I mean Ariana Mistry, Delta White, Carmella Rossi, Natalie Heck, Skyler McKay, Anaya Leon, Lexi Martinez and on and on :wink: They are all worth the chance of working with the best directors, studios, male and female talent (and obviously get better paid) over in the US. It is indeed a sad day in the porn business if we never get to see these beautiful British babes in any major US productions :(
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Postby gepont on Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:59 pm

dap-addict wrote:Do you know than how LA Direct Models managed to get that ID card for Marsha Lord, Maria Bellucchi and their other Eurobabes?

Good question. 8)
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Postby The Scandinavian on Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:11 pm

gepont wrote:Well, I'd love to see more Euro girls working in LA, that would be a breath of fresh air to the industry, but the current Visa and 2257 requirements make it nearly impossible for any foreign models to work in the US.

Well, yes, but an equally important point is if the Euro stars even WANT to work in LA... And by "Euro stars" I mean the top of the bunch, i.e. Simony Diamond, Bambi, Cayenne, Leanna Sweet, Zafira, Regina Moon, Kyra Black, Roxy Panther, etc. If the best of the best wouldn't want to make the transition even if it were the easiest thing in the world to do, then really it doesn't make too much of a difference for the US. I mean under current laws they have (or have had) Clara G, Maya Gates, Maria Bellucci (even though she was born in Karl Marx Stadt, East Germany, I believe), Jennifer Dark, Sandra Romain, Sue Diamond and Rita Faltayano, just to name a few... If the ones I mentioned above (Simony, Bambi, etc) don't want to go, why should the Americans even bother??
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Postby gepont on Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:34 pm

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gepont wrote:Well, I'd love to see more Euro girls working in LA, that would be a breath of fresh air to the industry, but the current Visa and 2257 requirements make it nearly impossible for any foreign models to work in the US.

Well, yes, but an equally important point is if the Euro stars even WANT to work in LA... And by "Euro stars" I mean the top of the bunch, i.e. Simony Diamond, Bambi, Cayenne, Leanna Sweet, Zafira, Regina Moon, Kyra Black, Roxy Panther, etc. If the best of the best wouldn't want to make the transition even if it were the easiest thing in the world to do, then really it doesn't make too much of a difference for the US. I mean under current laws they have (or have had) Clara G, Maya Gates, Maria Bellucci (even though she was born in Karl Marx Stadt, East Germany, I believe), Jennifer Dark, Sandra Romain, Sue Diamond and Rita Faltayano, just to name a few... If the ones I mentioned above (Simony, Bambi, etc) don't want to go, why should the Americans even bother??

Simony definitely wouldn't go, she never left the country for shoots, not even to Prague or Vienna. Tommy Sy said he wanted to take her to Prague for a scene with someone both knew and they wouldn't even stay for a night just drive, shoot, drive back but she refused to go. Also on most of the jobs her husband is there or arrives during the scene to pick her up. But she's an exception.
Most girls I talked about it, would be more than happy to go to the US. Rita Faltoyano is married to an American guy (Tommy Gunn), Angel Dark also. Those who once had IDs, like a driving licence which was easily obtainable in some states until the recent times can work. If someone gets any permission to stay longer than 6 months (eg. Student Visa), can obtain American driving licence.
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Postby dap-addict on Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:45 pm

gepont wrote:If someone gets any permission to stay longer than 6 months (eg. Student Visa), can obtain American driving licence.

I guess that´s the way for those LA Direct Eurobabes, actually. They are all just students. :wink:
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Postby Angelito on Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:19 pm

gepont wrote:
The Scandinavian wrote:
gepont wrote:Simony definitely wouldn't go, she never left the country for shoots, not even to Prague or Vienna. Tommy Sy said he wanted to take her to Prague for a scene with someone both knew and they wouldn't even stay for a night just drive, shoot, drive back but she refused to go. Also on most of the jobs her husband is there or arrives during the scene to pick her up. But she's an exception.


It was a surprise to see photos of her in Amsterdam for "Miss AOE 2007" earlier this year. Also, I think she is the only married eurobabe who does hardcore but her husband is not a performer.
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Postby chris on Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:28 pm

Angelito wrote:
gepont wrote:
The Scandinavian wrote:
gepont wrote:Simony definitely wouldn't go, she never left the country for shoots, not even to Prague or Vienna. Tommy Sy said he wanted to take her to Prague for a scene with someone both knew and they wouldn't even stay for a night just drive, shoot, drive back but she refused to go. Also on most of the jobs her husband is there or arrives during the scene to pick her up. But she's an exception.


It was a surprise to see photos of her in Amsterdam for "Miss AOE 2007" earlier this year. Also, I think she is the only married eurobabe who does hardcore but her husband is not a performer.


Wiska is married too and her husband isn't performer.
definitely Wiska and Simony are the best wifes on the world :)
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Postby Keni Styles on Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:00 pm

dap-addict wrote:Do you know than how LA Direct Models managed to get that ID card


8) I have a pretty good idea, but that would be telling right? lol!

I think a lot of us in the UK have our own plans and want to do it in different ways. It is interesting that this has come up and that the general opinion is everyone wants to shoot in the states. Personally I am quite happy shooting in europe. I was actually considering moving over to prague or budapest full time.

I agree that the talent pool in the UK is getting much better in recent months and I am sure a lot of the girls will do great with the big companies in America! If only it was easier for them to get in!!

I have noticed that more companies are coming to the UK to shoot though, perhaps the answer is that the yanks come over here and Europe more in future?
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Postby dap-addict on Sun Aug 26, 2007 3:04 pm

Keni Styles wrote:I have noticed that more companies are coming to the UK to shoot though, perhaps the answer is that the yanks come over here and Europe more in future?

That would be about time!
US companies shot tons of porn in Budapest and Prague before the new 2257 rules. There was a boom really. They also pushed up the fees a bit. Which is good for the girls. And the agencies, too.
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Postby gepont on Sun Aug 26, 2007 4:06 pm

chris wrote:
Angelito wrote:
gepont wrote:
The Scandinavian wrote:
gepont wrote:Simony definitely wouldn't go, she never left the country for shoots, not even to Prague or Vienna. Tommy Sy said he wanted to take her to Prague for a scene with someone both knew and they wouldn't even stay for a night just drive, shoot, drive back but she refused to go. Also on most of the jobs her husband is there or arrives during the scene to pick her up. But she's an exception.


It was a surprise to see photos of her in Amsterdam for "Miss AOE 2007" earlier this year. Also, I think she is the only married eurobabe who does hardcore but her husband is not a performer.


Wiska is married too and her husband isn't performer.
definitely Wiska and Simony are the best wifes on the world :)

I know a few more married to not-performers ;)
Gape fans might heard the name Lara Stevens, for example
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Postby budtugley on Sun Aug 26, 2007 5:54 pm

This one's looking good.
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Postby Uncle Junior on Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:31 am

What about Susana Spears as the next Woodman contract girl.... imagine a dick in that world class ass?? :D
http://eurobabeindex.com/sbandoindex/susanasp.html
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