phunkey wrote:It's quite evident that you never performed a DP yourself, since you would otherwise know that there is a lot of touching and rubbing involved between mens' legs, balls, sometimes even cocks - as pointed out by dap-addict as well. (1) So does that mean that DP also is an act of "receiving sexual pleasure from other men" and should be banned as gay or bi-sexual? And if not, where to draw the line? (2)How would you react to a hot girl grabbing your and another guy's cock and sucking them at the same time? (3)Did it ever occur to you that watching guys wanking on a girl's face or fucking a girl in DP (and I bet you prefer big cocks to small ones) has a homosexual dimension too? (4)Why do you declare girls such as Monica Sweetheart as DP queens who've openly said that they hate anal, leave alone DP, and only grudgingly do it for the money? (5)And finally, what then is it you love about DP (at least in that one position)?
I'll answer these questions one by one.
1) DP in and of itself is not an inherently homosexual act... homosexual, in my opinion (and I think any standard dictionary would support this opinion) is the act of receiving direct sexual pleasure from a person of the same gender. A man receiving direct sexual pleasure from another man is gay. There is nothing wrong with this, as I already stated earlier, but as a non-gay man, I don't really want to see gay sex in videos. Gay and/or bi-seuxal sex videos/acts should not be "banned" in any sort of way, I'm not sure where you get this idea... perhaps you think I am opposed to homosexuality or something. I just don't find it appealing, and it's kind of a turn off as a heterosexual man to see, imo.
2) In the said situation, I wouldn't find anything particularly gay about it, since the sexual pleasure I would be receiving would be from the woman... not the man. If that turns HER on (giving fellatio to 2 men simultaneously), I would in turn most likely find her lust for cock to be a catalyst to my own sexual temptation to continue having sex with her (not to have sex with the man, mind you.) If I asked her to rub my dick harder against his, there would probably be something gay about that request, as it shows I want to receive sexual pleasure from another man and not just a woman. If mens' balls or legs, arms or hands happen to rub against eachother or touch during DP sex with a woman, that's not necessarily gay. It's only gay if the men actively seek out the encounters to receive sexual pleasure (if I go to have a menage-a-trois and I
want my balls to rub against another man's balls, that is gay. Otherwise, it's just an accident, but not in the sense that something wrong was done, but in the sense that it was just part of the act of having sex with the woman sandwiched between us. "
3) Perhaps, but I don't watch DP or cumshots because I have secret sexual lust for men, men's ejaculate, men's penises, or men at all... I have sexual lust for women that are uninhibited, promiscuous (but safe), willing to open up their orifices to two (or one, I don't
only watch 3somes) relatively unknown men in order to receive sexual pleasure, and allowing them to climax on her face without any real major inhibitions about society's values and morals as regards to standard sexual intercourse practices and rules. As far as the cock size goes, you're partially right... I don't want to see miniscule dicks in porn, nor do I want to see gargantuan monster cocks (mandingo comes to mind). The reasoning is not because of any gay feelings I have, but rather because it is harder to imagine myself IN THE SITUATION if the men have tiny dicks, and likewise ultra-enormous dicks. That is one big part about porno, for some people... imagining yourself THERE having sex with the woman. That is why I don't like to watch fat hairy men with tiny dicks in porn, because it's the complete opposite of my body type. Also, I don't watch pornos to masturbate to the beauty of the male form or majesty of their genitalia... only for the beauty of the female form and their *assets*. From a purely technical standpoint, small dicks are more difficult to film than the larger ones.
4) By "DP Queens" I mean pornstars who have done DP a lot in their career. Not just that, but girls that I find particularly attractive and good at engaging in DPs on film. Monica Sweetheart (and all the other women I listed) fits those two criterion (attractive, and have done DP a number of times.) If Monica Sweetheart only does DP for money, that's another topic all together. I really don't care why these women do porn. I'm quite aware that a lot of them just need/want money, and are uninhibited enough that having sexual intercourse on video, for the world to see, in order for them to acquire money is not a big problem. If Monica Sweetheart (or any other pornstar) doesn't enjoy anal, that's not really a concern of mine unless their videos begin to show signs (pain, for instance, is not hot to me.) Personally, I doubt your statement that Monica only "grudgingly" does anal for the money... she's done anal in practically every single porno she's ever been in, which seems to show she has no major hang-ups about doing it. If she had major problems with doing anal, I would find it very unlikely she would continue doing it for years and years, hundreds and hundreds of scenes. You could be right, but ultimately I don't think it can be proven she hates anal... maybe she did say that at one point in her long life, but perhaps it was because she got a particularly ferocious male-talent that week who reamed her ass, like so many of these *gape* fans seem to enjoy here. Ultimately, these womens' personal inner thoughts are of no real concern to me, because it is about the fantasy portrayed on the video, for me, the consumer... if it begins to get harmful or cause severe problems with the performers, I would hope they would stop doing it, or alter their career in some sort of way (like, not doing anal anymore.)
5) What I love about DP is the fact that there are women out there who are so carefree, uninhibited, promiscuous, and willing to reject society's typical conservative norms that they will seek sexual pleasure from not one, but two men... and not just in the same room, but simultaneously in their ass and pussy. There surely are less women in this world who would engage in this sort of act than would not... women who are not afraid to violate a taboo of society; actually, violate multiple taboos of society (group sex, anal, unmarried, et cetera.) The women in DP videos must be hot... and this desire probably needs no explanation at all. I don't want to see women who are non-physically-attractive in porno. The reason I prefer to see cowgirl style dp over reverse cowgirl is because it shows off the woman's ass more, and because tits look better to me hanging down than falling flatter in the reverse-cowgirl position. This is purely a personal opinion matter, and really any dp position is fine (except that position where 1 of the men has utterly no visual view of the woman and can only see a man's ass right in front of him... that's the worst dp position I have ever seen.) If there was a way for me to digitally edit myself into porno videos, I would. I find the male-performers to be annoyingly distracting a lot of the time, for a variety of reasons. I would probably put two of myself into the videos, and never have to watch other guys again perform DP on a hot girl.
I'm surprised I actually have to defend a point of view which says "
two cocks rubbing against eachother thereby creating sexual pleasure for each of the men as a direct result of the cocks rubbing against eachother is a rather gay form of sex." I would have thought that would be self-evident. There are no "contradictions" in my original post. I've looked rather deeply into my own personal feelings, and this is the conclusion I came up with: Cock-on-cock sexual pleasure is rather gay (not that gay sex is wrong or bad, just not appealing to heterosexual men that don't like gay sex). Quite the contrary, I think a lot of men out there
think they are hetero, and yet they get off on viewing cock-on-cock sex, and refuse to admit they are actually bi-sexual in some sort of way, dap-addict.